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Old Posted Aug 3, 2022, 8:55 PM
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is he a socialist?
No, he's not. He's also not that great. But better than Ramirez Rosa or Rossana Rodriguez.
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Osterman and Tunney were the main reason the provision for as-of-right 3/4-flats near transit was removed from the recent TOD ordinance. If they both leave, this could be a huge chance to reintroduce the provision in a future ordinance

City Council ‘not a good place to work these days,’ Tunney says of mass exodus
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2022, 6:29 PM
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This is insanity. The city/CPS is just pissing money away keeping these empty schools open. Douglass high school has more classrooms than it has students.



edit: picture broke and can't find the original, but it was a list of the lowest attended CPS schools by % of capacity for 2022. There's a bunch below 10% capacity and some even below 5% capacity.

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Old Posted Aug 14, 2022, 2:55 PM
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Many of these schools are in disinvested neighborhoods on the South or West Sides (especially the West Side), but not all.

Uplift is right in Uptown. Field is in Rogers Park, and it was severely overcrowded until 2003 when they built a new building (New Field) for grades PreK-4 and turned the original school into sort of a middle school with grades 5-8.

It's expensive to maintain unused school capacity, but it's also really hard and expensive to right-size your school buildings for a city where the demographics keep shifting, and parents keep changing their mind about whether they want neighborhood, charter, magnet or parochial schools for their kids. The very idea of "school choice" requires lots of excess capacity in the overall system.
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2022, 8:43 PM
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LOL! a new poll released yesterday found that bailey has a net favorability rating of -53 points in cook county, where ~40% of the state's voters live.

statewide, bailey is a -23 underwater in terms of favorability.


i'm sure repeatedly and unashamedly calling chicago a "hellhole" fires up his downstate redneck base, but my god is it ever an extremely stupid overall strategy to win Illinois.

Is he just so fucking stupid that he's completely unaware that he's not running in the GOP primary anymore?

yo darren, this is the big show now, you're supposed to be trying to woo voters everywhere in the state, 70% of whom live in chicagoland.



in any event, the poll unsurprisingly found that pritzker is a +18 over bailey (56% to 38%) with roughly 2 months to go.

source: https://www.theillinoize.com/article...eads-bailey-18


let's see if darren's "hellhole chicago" strategy starts to move the needle in the positive direction for him.
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2022, 9:34 PM
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let's see if darren's "hellhole chicago" strategy starts to move the needle in the positive direction for him.
It never ceases to amaze me how much of a bubble people live in.....

I have family that lives way out past Barrington, and they live in an echo chamber of right-wing news media where they think Chicago is falling apart and we all get shot twice a day. Not to say we don't have problems to fix, but there is such a disconnect between what the reality on the ground is and what these folks perceive the city being like.

With that said, I'm super happy to see the majority of people don't see things this way.
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2022, 10:20 PM
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^ well, there's lots of bubble living going on all across the spectrum in the internet age, but what i can't understand is bailey's utterly bewildering strategy of refusing to believe that math is real and tripling down on his "hellhole chicago" line.

it's as though he doesn't grasp some of the the most rudimentary concepts of basic mathematics like 7 being greater than 3.

when you're playing from behind, you have to be like 2 - 3x smarter than your opponent to even have a shot, but bailey's going in the other direction instead.

it's a stupefying form of active stupidity; 100% unforced error territory.

stupid candidate?

stupid advisors?

stupid both?
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I think Pritzker is doing a great job. Just Googled Bailey - he is a nut.


Basically Pritzker is a shoe-in. Good.

Pritzker leads Bailey 67%-24% in Cook County and 68%-29% in the suburbs. Bailey leads in the rest of the state 49%-43%. Pritzker leads with women by 20 points, 57% to 37%.
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Wonder if Pritzker will break 90% in the city.
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Wonder if Pritzker will break 90% in the city.
maybe if the city jettisoned edison park and mt. greenwood?
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^ well, there's lots of bubble living going on all across the spectrum in the internet age, but what i can't understand is bailey's utterly bewildering strategy of refusing to believe that math is real and tripling down on his "hellhole chicago" line.

it's as though he doesn't grasp some of the the most rudimentary concepts of basic mathematics like 7 being greater than 3.

when you're playing from behind, you have to be like 2 - 3x smarter than your opponent to even have a shot, but bailey's going in the other direction instead.

it's a stupefying form of active stupidity; 100% unforced error territory.

stupid candidate?

stupid advisors?

stupid both?
It might be simple: he truly believes that Chicago is a hellhole. How often has he visited? Probably a few very controlled photo ops since his campaign started. Otherwise his entire perspective is shaped by the outlandish tropes peddled by right wing propaganda from his little island down south.

It seemed like since the general election campaign got underway he "softened" his rhetoric to be "Chicago WAS a great city, and COULD be again, but right now its a hellhole." That to me is a guy who really believes the nonsense and thinks he's being politically coy now that he's trying to woo Cook county voters--who must agree that the city is a hellhole, because of course it is, but hey it WAS and COULD BE a good city.

And no, I don't think he believes the math is real. Neither did/does Trump (he won the popular vote, ok?) and he became president and a political warlord.
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I don't know what's so hard to understand here. . . didn't the dems basically pump this guys campaign to kill off Griffin's guy and send him packing to Miami? Now that you have this nutter running against JB they won't have to spend as much money to keep the seat. . .

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No, he's not. He's also not that great. But better than Ramirez Rosa or Rossana Rodriguez.
Ah I thought he was, he aligns with them in some progressive caucus in city council that I can't remember the name of. Anyway, yea he's really good, not sure what ward you live in but surely he's not Jim Gardiner enough for you. Sorry, maybe he'll secretly sell a machine gun to a minor or something to change your mind.
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I don't know what's so hard to understand here. . . didn't the dems basically pump this guys campaign to kill off Griffin's guy and send him packing to Miami? Now that you have this nutter running against JB they won't have to spend as much money to keep the seat. . .

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Of course that's understood, it's just incredible to watch a major candidate for governor be so incredibly inept.
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It might be simple: he truly believes that Chicago is a hellhole. How often has he visited? Probably a few very controlled photo ops since his campaign started. Otherwise his entire perspective is shaped by the outlandish tropes peddled by right wing propaganda from his little island down south.
true, he's spent his whole life down in Clay County, a fully rural county of only 13,000 people in southern IL. it was the 3rd reddest county in the state back in 2020 with a +65.4 margin for trump.

people with that solid of a rural red background are probably just incapable of truly connecting with the citizens of a 9M people metropolis here in the 21st century.





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"Chicago WAS a great city, and COULD be again, but right now its a hellhole."
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I don't know what's so hard to understand here. . .
i'm just a little surprised that he apparently really is as stupid as he's turned out to be.



then again, he is a politician, and i guess there's no shortage of stupidity among their ranks.
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Of course that's understood, it's just incredible to watch a major candidate for governor be so incredibly inept.
I think that's just it. He's NOT a major candidate for governor. Pritzker is popular and successful and scandal-free in a state that is less likely than ever to vote for Republicans. Illinois has a long history of voting for conservatives in both parties but it's hard to find someone who holds conservative views in the Republican party these days.

Why would a serious person spend a year of their life campaigning against Prtizker just to certainly lose? If Ronald Reagan came back from the dead and moved to Illinois he still might not win running for governor against Prtizker in this environment. So good candidates stay on the sidelines.

Beyond that, the Illinois Republican party is a mess. Grover Norquist's old line about hoping to make government "small enough so that we you can drown it in the bathtub" is basically true right now of the state Republican party. It's mostly cranks and gun nuts and 4chan weirdo incels. Can you imagine Jim Edgar agreeing to sit with a dweeb in a bow tie and laugh together over footage of slobs pummeling police officers with flag poles? He'd resign before suffering that sort of humiliation.

If you want to wield influence in Illinois, you simply have to deal with Democrats right now, which is in many ways a shame. Everyone benefits when there's a loyal opposition keeping excesses in check and making sure you have to work through a competition to come out on top.
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someone asked for photos on this project and yimbychicago has some recent ones

https://chicagoyimby.com/2022/09/fac...an-square.html

progress is up to the 5th floor as of today, the photos in the article only show 4th floor
Best of luck to anyone who will try to sleep at night at that intersection, if the city is going to continue to allow the atrocious amount of vehicle noise that we're currently plagued with.
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i'm just a little surprised that he apparently really is as stupid as he's turned out to be.



then again, he is a politician, and i guess there's no shortage of stupidity among their ranks.
I'm not following the illinois governor's race, but it is refreshing to see a candidate speak his true opinions, even if it is guaranteed to take him out of the running. If he truly believes Chicago is a hell hole (or whatever he said) then I respect him for at least running on that; and to be fair, a good portion of Chicago is a hell hole, that's obviously not going to sway blue voters though in much of Chicagoland.
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Best of luck to anyone who will try to sleep at night at that intersection, if the city is going to continue to allow the atrocious amount of vehicle noise that we're currently plagued with.
the brown line runs right down my alley every several minutes from 4am to 2am everyday.

it is LOUD when it roars by.

you get used to it.
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