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Old Posted Mar 30, 2023, 9:08 PM
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Growth in the Nation’s Largest Counties Rebounds in 2022

MARCH 30, 2023 — After some of the nation's most populous counties experienced significant outmigration and population declines in 2021, overall patterns of population growth and decline are moving towards pre-pandemic rates for the nation’s 3,144 counties according to the U.S. Census Bureau’s Vintage 2022 estimates of population and components of change released today. All 10 of the top fastest-growing counties were in the South or West.

“The migration and growth patterns for counties edged closer to pre-pandemic levels this year,” said Dr. Christine Hartley, assistant division chief for estimates and projections in the Census Bureau’s population division. “Some urban counties, such as Dallas and San Francisco, saw domestic outmigration at a slower pace between 2021 and 2022, compared to the prior year. Meanwhile, many counties with large universities saw their populations fully rebound this year as students returned."

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Old Posted Mar 31, 2023, 1:49 AM
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CityLab Daily: Remote Work is Costing Manhattan Billions a Year


Facing the highest cost of remote work is the world’s leading financial center, where Manhattan workers are spending at least $12.4 billion less a year due to about 30% fewer days in the office, according to new data analyzed by Bloomberg News.


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Old Posted Mar 31, 2023, 2:16 AM
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I'm not buying Philly is losing population with the housing construction still going on....
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2023, 2:26 AM
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I'm not buying Philly is losing population with the housing construction still going on....
Poorer families may be moving out and they could have more heads per household than a condo or townhome with 1-2 people living in them. That happens with gentrification.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2023, 2:58 AM
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Poorer families may be moving out and they could have more heads per household than a condo or townhome with 1-2 people living in them. That happens with gentrification.
Maybe over a decade in certain neighborhoods.

In 1 year? I think the ACS just sucks at counting immigrants and people living in apartments.
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Sumter County, FL (i.e. The Villages) was the 3rd fastest growing county. Midwest, please stop sending your retirees here to Florida?
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More reasons to do a special census (redo 2020) given all the movement of people from the COVID years.
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I'm not buying Philly is losing population with the housing construction still going on....
They revised Philly's last year's numbers from -25,000 to -11,000. That's a pretty big difference. According to this the Delaware Valley/ Philly MSA has lost around -3k over the last two years.

NY/LA/CHI metro areas have lost hundreds of thousands of residents over the last two years. Maybe? Idk. Pretty incredible if true.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2023, 3:02 PM
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They revised Philly's last year's numbers from -25,000 to -11,000. That's a pretty big difference. According to this the Delaware Valley/ Philly MSA has lost around -3k over the last two years.

NY/LA/CHI metro areas have lost hundreds of thousands of residents over the last two years. Maybe? Idk. Pretty incredible if true.
I agree, the Census Bureau is known for being way-off when estimating population of the Big three during off years. NYC, L.A, and Chicago are all too large and complicated to make a credible count without door-to-door contact and a traditional 10-year Census count.
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They revised Philly's last year's numbers from -25,000 to -11,000. That's a pretty big difference. According to this the Delaware Valley/ Philly MSA has lost around -3k over the last two years.

NY/LA/CHI metro areas have lost hundreds of thousands of residents over the last two years. Maybe? Idk. Pretty incredible if true.
The ACS's method of calculating annual estimates seems prone to undercounting cities in the northeast corridor.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2023, 3:52 PM
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The counts are always off too. The only debate is whether it's by a little or a lot.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2023, 8:10 PM
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More reasons to do a special census (redo 2020) given all the movement of people from the COVID years.
They wont, and there isnt a reason too frankly. The Census is one of the few things actually laid out in the constitution and it doesn't stipulate to "correct" for strange situations.

The goal is just to snapshot the population not to have a constant accurate count.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2023, 8:21 PM
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Looks like all the counties around the Bay Area lost population apart from Santa Cruz.
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The link below has very good overview of population patterns in Texas counties. All the major big urban counties (Harris, Dallas, Tarrant, Bexar, and Travis) posted solid gains, but the suburban counties around DFW, Houston, and Austin are truly on fire. If you scroll down far enough in this link, there is a neat interactive map that tracks population changes between 2021 and 2022 in all Texas counties. Worth a look.
https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/new-...-most-in-2022/
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The link below has very good overview of population patterns in Texas counties. All the major big urban counties (Harris, Dallas, Tarrant, Bexar, and Travis) posted solid gains, but the suburban counties around DFW, Houston, and Austin are truly on fire. If you scroll down far enough in this link, there is a neat interactive map that tracks population changes between 2021 and 2022 in all Texas counties. Worth a look.
https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/new-...-most-in-2022/
My wife's family lives in Kaufman county and they are not happy about the explosive population growth there. Her cousin sold their ranch (for millions) because the land behind them and across the street was being developed into neighborhoods.
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Sumter County, FL (i.e. The Villages) was the 3rd fastest growing county. Midwest, please stop sending your retirees here to Florida?
It is an utterly disgusting place as well.
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It is an utterly disgusting place as well.
It really is.
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I'm not buying Philly is losing population with the housing construction still going on....
Or is it that people like new construction and/or want to be in desirable and up and coming areas? I would not use this as a reliable gauge in an old city.
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Old Posted Apr 6, 2023, 10:47 PM
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They revised Philly's last year's numbers from -25,000 to -11,000. That's a pretty big difference. According to this the Delaware Valley/ Philly MSA has lost around -3k over the last two years.

NY/LA/CHI metro areas have lost hundreds of thousands of residents over the last two years. Maybe? Idk. Pretty incredible if true.
I just don't think the Census people have any clue how to estimate. It's not like these apartments they keep building are all sitting dead empty. Somebody is moving in...
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Old Posted Apr 6, 2023, 10:51 PM
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Or is it that people like new construction and/or want to be in desirable and up and coming areas? I would not use this as a reliable gauge in an old city.
It seems more reliable than what the Census people are estimating from a distance.
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