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Old Posted Aug 29, 2012, 1:29 AM
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Some of these things are unbelievably huge. Nothing mammoth in my city. I think Pittsburgh must have some of the smallest parkways around the city core for any city its size. 4 lanes from the airport to downtown!
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Some of these things are unbelievably huge. Nothing mammoth in my city. I think Pittsburgh must have some of the smallest parkways around the city core for any city it's size. 4 lanes from the airport to downtown!
I just noticed that PGH doesn't quite have a bonafide beltway. Our beltway is what was one of the daggers into our downtown.
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I despise each and every one of these. Disgusting blights on the landscape.
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I-17/I-10 interchange west/northwest of Downtown Phoenix, aka "The Stack"


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The I-10/AZ 51/AZ 202 "Mini Stack." This one's even more complicated than The Stack, IMO:

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Old Posted Aug 29, 2012, 3:19 AM
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milwaukee's is surprisingly large for the size of the metro.

@tredici: yes, the 20/75-85 interchange is fucking terrible. considering it's size, atlanta should probably have more than just one stack interchange, 285/85.

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Old Posted Aug 29, 2012, 6:51 AM
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I assume Chicago's Circle, if rebuilt, will probably resemble the Shanghainese compact stack shown in the thread's first picture, probably with a distortion to allow faster speeds and wider turns on the Eisenhower-Dan Ryan ramps.
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The one is Shanghai is awe inspiring, the one in Dallas (High Five) is probably the cleanest and most elegant spaghetti junction I have seen while the huge on in LA is probably the most depressing looking of the bunch. Don't know why but it has always looked sad to me.

As for Canada, outside of the one in Montreal (which is being replaced) Canada does not really have spaghetti junctions. Metro Toronto and other areas do have impressive interchanges, but none of them to the scale of the High Five or other such spaghetti junctions show.

Metro-Vancouver really has nothing to show currently, outside of the semi-large 99/91/Knight Street interchanges in Richmond.

That being said, this beast is currently u/c and will be complete next year:

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I respect how Chicago generally has undersized expressway infrastructure-with some notable exceptions-in a city with otherwise massive infrastructure. If Chicago was in the sunbelt, the Circle would probably be the largest spaghetti clusterfuck east of California, or worse.
i don't think it's as much about sun-belt vs. rust belt as it is about available land. just compare chicago's downtown interchange with milwaukee's. both cities have an interchange to the southwest of their respective downtowns where the major north/south expressway intersects with the main east/west expressway. in milwaukee, they had far more land to work with, so when it came time to replace the outmoded marquette interchange, they were able to shoe horn in a modern 5 level stack interchange. chicago's circle interchange will need to be replaced someday, but there just isn't the same degree of land available at that location to do a conventional modern stack interchange, so the engineers are going to have to come up with some sort of scrunched-up hybrid that will still likely require slower speeds and lead to back-ups all the same. there just ain't enough land there to have a major expressway interchange designed for 55mph ramps.
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Maybe some kind of giant loop would be better with spinoff routes.
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the Turcot Interchange of Montreal. Less impressive now that most of the rail lines have been removed (passing over the CN rail main line, it was partially astride a CN shunting yard, and next to an escarpment, hence the verticality). Very cool but scary, as chunks of concrete regularly fall of and many rusty reinforcing rods show through the structure.


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milwaukee's is surprisingly large for the size of the metro.

@tredici: yes, the 20/75-85 interchange is fucking terrible. considering it's size, atlanta should probably have more than just one stack interchange, 285/85.
Atlanta's freeway system, while vastly superior/modern in general quality to virtually any other very large metro in the countr, still is disfunctional. The Connector is the biggest cluster fuck on Earth, and I don't think that will ever change. I mean, a 12 lane wide freeway between two interchanges in Huntsville does nothing to ease congestion.

Yay Southern Freeways...
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While not particularly complicated, the sheer amount of land the M-5/I-96/I-969/I-275 interchange in Novi in western Metro Detroit takes up is just ridiculous:



BTW, while neither particularly large or complicated, Detroit's main street, Woodward Avenue, has some fairly interesting crossings for a main street at 8 Mile and 696. It's a technically a state highway, but functions as a main street through much of its course, so it's weird when you hit the grade separations.
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Atlanta's freeway system, while vastly superior/modern in general quality to virtually any other very large metro in the countr, still is disfunctional. The Connector is the biggest cluster fuck on Earth, and I don't think that will ever change. I mean, a 12 lane wide freeway between two interchanges in Huntsville does nothing to ease congestion.

Yay Southern Freeways...
I don't really agree that Atlanta's freeway system is disfuntional/dysfunctional especially when you consider the amount of traffic it carries and the distances that people commute daily on them. I think the secondary streets are lacking in function more than the freeways but a lot of that has to do with topography and politics/jurisdiction.

The winding streets (especially outside of Midtown and Downtown) creates odd intersections with other winding streets and may cause confusion. Also the seemingly constant changing of street names may also add to confusion. This situation sometimes make some certain streets underutilized even when the freeway is congested.

I have lived in Atlanta many years and know it pretty well but I still find out things on how streets connect here. Until recently, I didn't know that Juniper Street, Courtland Avenue and Washington Street share the same road alignment (same street - name changes) through Midtown/Downtown. It's an excellent alternative to a congested Downtown Connector if you are traveling south. I have never had a terrible commute living in Atlanta but I've always lived inside the city or inside/near the Perimeter. I also seek and utilized alternatives to the freeway like the secondary streets and MARTA.

Also, GA400 and the Northern Arc of 285 are bigger "cluster fuck" to the Downtown Connector IMO. They carry just as much traffic, their exits are further apart, and they have less alternatives.
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In São Paulo, this quite simple one, comparing yours is so called Cebolão, which means big onion. There is also the Cebolinha, small onion, this one

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^cool shots. I have such a love/hate feeling about these myriad-lane monsters.
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reconstructed acadie circle interchange in Montreal:

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While not particularly complicated, the sheer amount of land the M-5/I-96/I-969/I-275 interchange in Novi in western Metro Detroit takes up is just ridiculous:
there's a similar land monster in chicagoland where I-90, I-190 & I-294 all collide out in suburban rosemont. it's not super complex, but like the one in michigan, it eats up an egregious amount of land.


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A few from Japan... All images from Google Earth.

Ōyamazaki JCT / IC
Two tollways over a Shinkansen line (plus one future tollway)
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Kawasaki Ukishima JCT / IC
Three tollways meeting in a cross, with three legs as tunnels
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Three tollways with connectors in concentric circles
http://goo.gl/maps/dbfqF

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http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5016/...5fa73e99e3.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lo...nterchange.jpg


http://www.visualphotos.com/image/2x...rchange_in_los


http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&c...r:0,s:42,i:211


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http://www.stockphotopro.com/photo_o...Freeway_and_14


http://legalplanet.wordpress.com/201...ement-efforts/


Above I-10 and I-15 interchange, San Bernardino County, California by cocoi_m, on Flickr


I-710/60 Freeway Interchange, Los Angeles CA by JoeInSouthernCA, on Flickr


http://sfcitizen.com/blog/tag/freeway/


Above I-280 and Hwy 87, San Jose, Santa Clara County, California by cocoi_m, on Flickr


http://www.worldofstock.com/stock-ph...ge-los/TRC4897


http://www.panoramio.com/photo/20387809


Interchange #1 by J.G. in S.F., on Flickr


Sign Gantry @ Kellogg Interchange (10+57+71) by mike_s_etc, on Flickr


I-405 / I-105: the cathedral by gsgeorge, on Flickr


http://banbillboardblight.org/?p=6850
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