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Old Posted Jan 16, 2022, 8:35 PM
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Old Posted Jan 17, 2022, 1:41 PM
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Crains Editorial board starting to sound rather NIMBYish in regards to Fulton Market:

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/opin...ains-editorial
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Crains Editorial board starting to sound rather NIMBYish in regards to Fulton Market:

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/opin...ains-editorial
I read this the other day and immediately thought "what a load of shi!t". It's just another NIMBY complaint about car traffic arguing density should be scaled back.
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Old Posted Jan 17, 2022, 4:20 PM
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^ If anything it's an argument that the city should get serious about infrastructure in West Loop. That includes flashy things like a new Metra stop and maybe a 2nd Green Line stop, but also a full grid of traffic signals, optimizing streets for throughput, proper bike lanes, changes to bus service, etc. I get that the city's resources are (currently) limited, but there's a golden opportunity for value capture through a transit TIF or other taxing structures.

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Tishman Speyer is planning another office building in Fulton Market at 850 W Washington Blvd. Anyone with access to the article know if their are details on the project?

Tishman Speyer Plans Second Chicago Workspace Project in Fastest-Growing US Urban Office Hub
https://www.costar.com/article/87488...-fulton-market
Interesting, I was wondering when something would come along to replace that "West Loop Auto Spa" or whatever it is (indoor parking garage). Interesting location for an office project, being south of Randolph. It's only zoned DX-3, so I'm guessing Tishman will have to get a zoning change to build anything significant there. We'll probably hear more about it in coming months.
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^ If anything it's an argument that the city should get serious about infrastructure in West Loop. That includes flashy things like a new Metra stop and maybe a 2nd Green Line stop, but also a full grid of traffic signals, optimizing streets for throughput, proper bike lanes, changes to bus service, etc. I get that the city's resources are (currently) limited, but there's a golden opportunity for value capture through a transit TIF or other taxing structures.
I don't read it that way at all. It's a complaint over car congestion and suggests that developments which will likely stand for a century or more should be scaled down even though we can still (and absolutely should) do all those improvements. There are cheap things the city could do now like changing free parking to pay and using a lot more curb space for passenger loading/unloading that would be helpful. And yes, I'd like the city to start building a new green line station at Elizabeth pretty much yesterday and they should be able to pay for it out of a TIF.
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Old Posted Jan 17, 2022, 6:17 PM
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I don't read it that way at all. It's a complaint over car congestion and suggests that developments which will likely stand for a century or more should be scaled down even though we can still (and absolutely should) do all those improvements. There are cheap things the city could do now like changing free parking to pay and using a lot more curb space for passenger loading/unloading that would be helpful. And yes, I'd like the city to start building a new green line station at Elizabeth pretty much yesterday and they should be able to pay for it out of a TIF.
Sorry, I agree with you that the Crain's article is pearl-clutching/fearmongering when it should be constructive about the best way for the city to accommodate the growth.

The article has a kind of fatalist attitude that too much growth will just lead to gridlock, without acknowledging the many steps the city could take to ensure smart growth. This kind of growth is par for the course in cities like Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, even NYC or Boston. If you leave the Midwest you see cities handling this kind of growth and the sky hasn't fallen. It's really weird for Crain's honestly, since they are usually such a cheerleader and promote the benefits in terms of tax revenue, job/population growth, developer contributions to Invest South/West, etc. I wonder who got to them?
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It's really weird for Crain's honestly, since they are usually such a cheerleader and promote the benefits in terms of tax revenue, job/population growth, developer contributions to Invest South/West, etc. I wonder who got to them?
Roger Romanelli, probably.

https://chi.streetsblog.org/2021/08/...haul-proposal/

https://chi.streetsblog.org/2021/09/...ake-st-tracks/
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That guy feels like a background villain in a vintage Disney movie. Every single thing I've heard him say or do. Hard not to imagine him buying Dalmation puppies for his boss to turn into a coat.
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LG Development got demolition approval for 210 N Aberdeen St, according to Urbanize. LG expects to start construction in the spring: https://urbanize.city/chicago/post/l...210-n-aberdeen

Fulton Market developments have been on a streak with starting construction not too long after being approved
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LG Development got demolition approval for 210 N Aberdeen St, according to Urbanize. LG expects to start construction in the spring: https://urbanize.city/chicago/post/l...210-n-aberdeen

Fulton Market developments have been on a streak with starting construction not too long after being approved
Does anyone know what else has to happen after the Commission on Chicago Landmarks approves a permit like that? Does it still need to go through City Council?
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Found on reddit (don't know who made it):

Chicago, 1956 vs 2021
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Does anyone know what else has to happen after the Commission on Chicago Landmarks approves a permit like that? Does it still need to go through City Council?
The PD for this development was already approved by City Council last summer.

The Landmarks approval is for a demolition permit so LG can tear down some of the (non-historic) buildings on the site. The project is in a landmark district (well, it straddles the edge of one) so any demolitions need special approval even if they're non-historic or non-contributing.
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Serious question. Who else sees a St Regis face looking at you?... from all angles.. every time?!

It's all I see. and I kinda like it
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170 N Green zoning app is being introduced this month. Keeping an eye out the next few days for when the PDF is available: https://chicago.legistar.com/Legisla...vanced&Search=
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Chicago, 1956 vs 2021
The top image is basically Milwaukee.
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170 N Green zoning app is being introduced this month. Keeping an eye out the next few days for when the PDF is available: https://chicago.legistar.com/Legisla...vanced&Search=
Nice. Is that the Bridgford site? I bet we see 350-400 feet.
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^^ Yup that's the Bridgford site
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The tress have grown. I don't see any other differences.
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The top image is basically Milwaukee.
milwaukee wishes.

while their top end height is more or less the same (~600' for both), chicago's 1956 skyline was FAR more expansive than Milwaukee's skyline is today.


# of highrises over 300':

chicago 1956: 52

milwauke 2022: 13


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^ And I’m sure that Chicago has pulled way even further since then?
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