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Old Posted Oct 21, 2021, 5:28 AM
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‘Is San Francisco dying?’ Americans are googling some strange questions about SF

‘Is San Francisco dying?’ Americans are googling some strange questions about SF

ANDREW CHAMINGS

Updated: Sep. 24, 2021 8:48 a.m.

San Francisco is an enigma. One of the most walkable cities in America yet filled with streets so steep your legs burn; a hub of zero-emission vehicles and electric bikes crisscrossed with the world's last manually operated cable car system; a leftist haven with more free-market billionaires per capita than any other city on Earth. 

This complexity may lead to some nuanced questions about the city, but also sometimes people open their phones and ask: “Is San Francisco a country?” 

I found the weirdest questions people have been asking Google about the city, seemingly largely informed by a misunderstanding of maps and a campaign of misinformation from right-wing media. 

Here goes. 

(The questions below are all drawn from the top 50 queries in Google search about San Francisco.)

Is San Francisco in New York?

No. 

Is San Francisco open?

Yes! San Francisco is open. The city was the first to shutter during the outbreak of coronavirus and saw some of the fewest deaths per capita from the disease of any major city in America. Bars, restaurants, clubs and gyms are all now open (if you’re vaccinated).

Come visit. Take in the view from the Top of the Mark. Grab the best Sichuan food in the country at Spices. Go see the sea lions at Fisherman’s Wharf (don't worry, the Bushman seems to be long gone). Drink some cutty bangs in Dolores Park. You can even ride the cable cars again.

Is San Francisco the city of love?

No, that’s Paris. But the Summer of Love was here. San Francisco is “SF,” or maybe “Baghdad by the Bay,” or even “Frisco” (if it’s good enough for Otis Redding, it’s good enough for us). It is never “San Fran” and it is definitely not the “Golden City,” despite what Goop thinks.

Is San Francisco safe from fires?

Despite the city’s history being shaped by one devastating inferno, and the surrounding state increasingly seeing millions of acres of damage every year, San Francisco is largely safe from wildfires. The most recent urban wildfire near San Francisco occurred in Oakland in 1991 when a firestorm fueled by high winds razed nearly 3,000 homes and killed 25 people in the hills.  

Is San Francisco an island?

Almost. The city is on the tip of the San Francisco Peninsula, surrounded on three sides by water that gets less salty from the Pacific through the Golden Gate to the bay. The south side of the city is a land border with San Mateo County and the cities of Daly City and Brisbane. 

San Francisco does have islands though, from the tiny rock formation of Seal Rock off Ocean Beach to Alcatraz, Treasure Island, a small portion of Angel Island and most distantly, the uninhabited Farallones — home to many shipwrecks and a colony of elephant seals (and some hungry seal-eating sharks). 

Is San Francisco built on sand?

Great question. Kind of. The whole western part of the city — now filled with the green meadows of Golden Gate Park and suburban avenues — was once sand dunes. A portion of the city on its eastern shore is built on the wrecks of ships abandoned by gold-crazed prospectors. 

Some downtown skyscrapers are literally built on sand, which hasn’t worked out well for the residents of 301 Mission St.

Is San Francisco a country? 

No. But it once had an emperor. In 1859, a San Francisco newspaper published a notice announcing that an English businessman in the city, one Joshua Norton, had proclaimed himself “Emperor” of the U.S., at the request of a “large majority of the citizens.” 

While he had no actual power, and all of his decrees were ignored, he became a bona fide city celebrity walking the streets with a beaver hat decorated with a peacock feather. Most of his ideas were laughed at, like when he created his own currency with his face on it, but he did suggest building a bridge to Oakland 50 years before that became a reality. 

The city embraced Norton’s kooky ways, selling pins and belt buckles with his likeness and even providing him with military regalia when his beaver hat wore thin. After he dropped dead on California Street in 1880, it’s said 10,000 San Franciscans attended his funeral. 

Is San Francisco better than Los Angeles?

Yes. 

Is San Francisco safe?

It’s possible that this question is being asked by confused Fox News viewers with pleasant memories of the beautiful city, now ingesting primetime host Laura Ingraham’s tirade against San Francisco, framing it as a dystopian town in decline. She recently claimed the city was "ruining itself" by building a bike lane in the city. 

Let’s look at violent crime numbers. The murder/negligent homicide rate in San Francisco is 6.35 per 100,000 people, per FBI data from 2017. That number is far lower than years ago (in 2007 it was 13.63). It also makes the city safer in that metric than Miami, Las Vegas, Chicago and Omaha, Nebraska. In fact, San Francisco has fewer homicides, aggravated assaults and rapes per person than 65 of the 100 most populous cities in the country. More recent data shows that violent crime in the city dropped further from 2018 to 2020, though vehicle thefts are up. 

So, safe from crime? Relatively, yes. Safe from right-wing primetime agitprop? Maybe not.

Is San Francisco coffee good?

Despite an infamous 1963 headline that declared, “The Terrible Coffee in S.F.’s Restaurants: A great city’s people forced to drink swill,” Tea and Coffee magazine rates the city’s coffee today as the second best in the country after Seattle. Coffee companies from Folger’s to bougie third-wave roaster Blue Bottle (now owned by Nestle) got their start in the Bay Area. 

It’s not cheap, and it’s not all tasty though. I once went to Lombard Street and paid $17 for a cup of coffee that had passed through the bowels of a cat and it tasted like ass.

Is San Francisco Sodom and Gomorrah?

No. The biblical towns of Sodom and Gomorrah were laid to waste by a very angry God due to their human wickedness through divine retribution. San Francisco is quite lovely, and doing well.

Is San Francisco bike friendly? 

Yes, very. A SmartAsset study found it to be the safest city in the country for cyclists. 

One of the city’s most ridden bike thoroughfares is the Wiggle. The zig-zagging bike path between the Panhandle and downtown that weaves through the hills is a hugely popular commuting route for cyclists looking to avoid calf-crushing inclines. The route actually follows an ancient creek used by livestock and settlers long before bikes were invented. 

Is San Francisco cold?

Honestly, yes. Except for a few weeks in the early fall when it’s downright magical. 

Is San Francisco Chinatown safe?

Yes. And beautiful. The largest Chinatown outside of Asia is a vibrant bustling neighborhood of hidden alleys, amazing food, ornate churches and some of the best bars in the city. It’s also home to Portsmouth Square, where elders gather to play Chinese chess in the oldest public square in San Francisco.

Is San Francisco dog friendly?

Very. DogTime rates the city as the third best in the country for dog owners. Pups are welcome at many restaurants and even gyms, and the city has a lower relative pet deposit on rentals than anywhere in the country. 

The city’s fondness for canines may start with a curious furry duo named Bummer and Lazarus. In 1860, the city dogs became beloved by San Francisco. The pair had a penchant for visiting saloons and drinking from fountains to the joy of residents. They became exempt from city ordinances and were even gifted nightly tickets to every opera house in town. Mark Twain eulogized their passing, and their taxidermied bodies were displayed at their favorite bar long after they uttered their last ruff.

Is San Francisco known as the windy city?

Come on now. 

Is San Francisco expensive?

Very. Prohibitively so. A family of four needs to make $111,136 annually just to make ends meet in San Francisco. Investopedia lists the city as the second most expensive city in the nation after New York. Despite the endless stories of folks leaving San Francisco, the city is still hugely desirable. Time Out just declared it the greatest city in the world, and with the ocean and bay leaving no room for suburban sprawl, there’s little chance of it becoming more affordable any time soon. 

Is San Francisco hilly?

Extremely. There are 48 named hills in the city. Some, like Irish Hill, were obliterated by dynamite. Others, like Mount Davidson and Mount Sutro are hidden paradises right in the middle of the city. Many have their own famed identities, from the parrots on Telegraph Hill to the old-timey tranquility of Nob Hill. The hills and steep streets make the city what it is. One ambitious man tried to walk up the 10 steepest streets, and discovered the actual steepest block isn’t where you think it is. 

Is San Francisco due for an earthquake?

Yes. I mean no. Sorry, no one really knows. Experts say that a 1906 level quake in the city should occur in the bay at 200-year intervals. USGS says that the chances of that happening in the next 30 years are about 2%. So probably not? But it can’t hurt to start building that earthquake kit. 

What is the main newspaper in San Francisco? 

San Francisco has a long history of warring newspapers that laid claim to that mantle, largely between the Call, the Examiner and the Chronicle. In the 1890s this resulted in an extravagant and sometimes stupid skyscraper war that was finally ended by the 1906 fire that gutted the publications’ downtown towers. 

This led to a very brief moment of brotherly love when all publications joined forces to publish under the “Call-Chronicle-Examiner” in the days following the disaster. 

Today the biggest news site in San Francisco is SFGATE. With about 25 million to 30 million monthly readers, only the LA Times can count more loyal readers in all of California. 

Is San Francisco dying?

No. 

https://www.sfgate.com/local/amp/goo...s-16476213.php
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Is San Francisco the city of love?

No, that’s Paris. But the Summer of Love was here. San Francisco is “SF,” or maybe “Baghdad by the Bay,” or even “Frisco” (if it’s good enough for Otis Redding, it’s good enough for us). It is never “San Fran” and it is definitely not the “Golden City,” despite what Goop thinks.
I'm surprised the Chronicle forgot that their own former columnist, Herb Cain, called it "the cool gray city of love".

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Is San Francisco safe?

It’s possible that this question is being asked by confused Fox News viewers with pleasant memories of the beautiful city, now ingesting primetime host Laura Ingraham’s tirade against San Francisco, framing it as a dystopian town in decline. She recently claimed the city was "ruining itself" by building a bike lane in the city.

Let’s look at violent crime numbers. The murder/negligent homicide rate in San Francisco is 6.35 per 100,000 people, per FBI data from 2017. That number is far lower than years ago (in 2007 it was 13.63). It also makes the city safer in that metric than Miami, Las Vegas, Chicago and Omaha, Nebraska. In fact, San Francisco has fewer homicides, aggravated assaults and rapes per person than 65 of the 100 most populous cities in the country. More recent data shows that violent crime in the city dropped further from 2018 to 2020, though vehicle thefts are up.

So, safe from crime? Relatively, yes. Safe from right-wing primetime agitprop? Maybe not.
I suppose one can't expect San Francisco's "progressive" establishment to admit what they've done to the place, but it's clearly not as safe as it was a few decades ago. First of all, property crime statistics are meaningless because, as I and others repeatedly point out, thefts of less than $950 are now misdemeanors in CA and nobody bothers to report them, knowing nothing will be done. It's true San Francisco still has a pretty low violent crime rate but the streets don't feel as safe as they once did and property crime is totally out of control.

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Is San Francisco bike friendly?

Yes, very. A SmartAsset study found it to be the safest city in the country for cyclists.

One of the city’s most ridden bike thoroughfares is the Wiggle. The zig-zagging bike path between the Panhandle and downtown that weaves through the hills is a hugely popular commuting route for cyclists looking to avoid calf-crushing inclines. The route actually follows an ancient creek used by livestock and settlers long before bikes were invented.
San Francisco hates cars and is under the thumb of an outfit called the SF Bicycle Coalition that advocates for a complete abandonment of traffic laws applied to cyclists, the conversion of all streets to cycle-only bike paths and the total banning cars and everything related to them such as the mayor's latest initiative to convert as many gas stations as possible to housing so that anyone still clinging to an internal combustion-driven car will have to drive to the suburbs to get fuel, spewing greenhouse gasses all the way.
     
     
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Are shoplifting , publicly injecting drugs , and shitting on the street legal in San Francisco ?

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Those silly middle Americans asking dumb questions about the totally safe city of San Francisco

Meanwhile San Franciscans are paying for private security , Brazil style

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SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) — Fed up with brazen property crimes, residents in San Francisco’s Marina District are taking matters into their own hands to protect themselves.

“We don’t feel safe in our neighborhood,” said Beach Street resident Katie Lyons. “And we have an alarm, we have cameras on our property, but we want the extra security of having someone have eyes on our place.”

She said home and auto burglaries in her neighborhood have gotten so out of hand, she is now paying for security services from patrol special officer Alan Byard.

Several of her neighbors have also recently become clients. Byard said he makes several rounds in his vehicle from 8 p.m. until 5 a.m. looking for anything out of place or suspicious. He charges a monthly $65 per residence.

“It’s a nice area down here, people are afraid of what’s been going on,” said Byard. “They want a safe place to raise their kids. In the last year, I’ve had 10 of my clients move out of the city.”

Byard, who also patrols businesses, says his residential clients have more than doubled since the pandemic began, from 70 to 150 in the Marina alone.

He said the area’s biggest problem is car burglaries. He often deals with homeless people sleeping on residents’ doorsteps. Byard said petty theft and burglaries are also common.

Patrol Special Officers work as private patrol persons overseen by the police commission.

Lyons said it is not uncommon to find stolen property including empty luggage dumped right outside her home. Car burglars commonly break into vehicles parked by the Palace of Fine Arts nearby.

“Especially at night, I don’t walk with a purse, I’ll drive, or I’ll take an Uber, and it’s beginning to become a daytime problem too,” added Lyons.


On Friday, popular Australian singer Clinton Kane was the victim of a brazen armed robbery in nearby Cow Hollow. Thieves made off with more than $30,000 worth of camera equipment.

Several videos posted to social media show that theft only takes a few seconds, and witnesses or drivers passing by don’t seem to deter burglars day or night.

Surveillance video from Trisha Bantigue shows a car break-in on Hawthorne and Howard Streets in SoMa last month. She said she made sure to leave nothing inside her brand new car and was still not immune.

On Friday, dash cam video caught repeated smash and grabs in Fisherman’s Wharf at Beach Street and Columbus Avenue. A waiting black Audi followed closely, before the suspect eventually hopped in.

Allan Brown, a Marina resident, has lived in the area for 20 years. When asked if property crime has gotten worse:

“Oh absolutely, absolutely. This place used to be – nothing would ever happen here,” he said.
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Much safer than any large city not named NY or probably Seattle.
     
     
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Are shoplifting , publicly injecting drugs , and shitting on the street legal in San Francisco ?

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This is a silly thread, obviously there are infinite silly Google questions out there. I’m sure many of those can be found about Chicago, NY, or any other major city
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"Is San Francisco an island?"

"Is San Francisco a country?"

Who are these people? TikTok'ers?
     
     
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"Is San Francisco an island?"

"Is San Francisco a country?"

Who are these people? TikTok'ers?
Most people really dont know much outside of their own domains of experience.

Its not unique to our time or place its how its always been.
     
     
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This is a silly thread, obviously there are infinite silly Google questions out there. I’m sure many of those can be found about Chicago, NY, or any other major city
True I dare anyone in here to post their google searches

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Man San Francisco and NYC are really doing a full court press on damage control for their reputations.

It does not seem geared towards the middle American plebs who think those cities are going to hell, but to their own residents. Interesting.



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Those silly middle Americans asking dumb questions about the totally safe city of San Francisco

Meanwhile San Franciscans are paying for private security , Brazil style
And other city services:

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The Community Ambassadors Program (CAP) is a streetsmart public education, workforce development, and safety program designed to bridge tensions in the community due to cultural or linguistic differences. Multiracial, multilingual Ambassador teams act as a visible safety presence, engage the public, and interact with residents, transit riders, merchants, law enforcement, transit, schools and community based organizations.

Community Ambassadors
Ambassador teams are assigned to several transit/merchant corridors and neighborhoods in Supervisorial Districts 3, 6, 9, and 10, including Mid-Market, Civic Center, Tenderloin, Chinatown, Mission, Bayview, Dogpatch, Portola, Potrero and Visitacion Valley.

Ambassadors actively volunteer in the communities they serve and also provide crowd control and assistance at large public meetings, including budget town halls, holiday toy giveaway programs, community events, 3rd on Third, Project Homeless Connect, mass naturalization workshops, and other events. Many Ambassadors were formerly unemployed or underemployed, vulnerable, unhoused, or economically-at-risk residents. Several have been continuously employed by CAP, building significant customer service, violence prevention and other workforce skills as well as focusing on their personal development. Other participants have successfully transitioned to permanent employment in the City or with local businesses and nonprofit organizations.
This and other neighborhood-targetted services most people assume would be provided by government and paid for with their property taxes are now provided by NGOs and paid for with additional parcel taxes assessed in the covered neighborhoods.

One would think that a "safe" city wouldn't need this additional layer of protection but SF does. And still these folks, who generally try hard, can't just tell somebody lying on a sidewalk shooting something into an extremity or taking a poop on the sidewalk to just stop it. I've seen them try.
     
     
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Man San Francisco and NYC are really doing a full court press on damage control for their reputations.

It does not seem geared towards the middle American plebs who think those cities are going to hell, but to their own residents. Interesting.



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All is WELL if, like Sup. Haney and the others along with the Mayor and Department heads, you get free parking spaces at City Hall, police protection and rarely have to mix with those plebs.
     
     
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In a lot of the cities I've visited over the years, I usually find myself walking through at night, which could be dangerous. In my last night in SF, I walked from Chinatown to possibly Nob Hill. Didn't have to worry about any threats of getting mugged or whatever. Although, it may have been a different story if I was going through the Tenderloin at night.
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have to mix with those plebs.
The notion makes me ill to contemplate
     
     
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Man San Francisco and NYC are really doing a full court press on damage control for their reputations.

It does not seem geared towards the middle American plebs who think those cities are going to hell, but to their own residents. Interesting.



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Why on Earth should NYC or SF care about middle America plebs? Does Phoenix care what New Yorkers think?
     
     
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Why on Earth should NYC or SF care about middle America plebs? Does Phoenix care what New Yorkers think?
I don't know! ask the journalists and posters who daily post articles decrying that the cities "ARE ALIVE!!!!! They aren't dying they are better than ever!"

I find it humorous that at one hand these people seem to despise the opinions and rumors of middle America yet endlessly try to prove why they are wrong. Its like when a bro tries a little too hard to prove the aren't gay. Its like "Bro calm down"

Seems clear to me that these cities care deeply what the plebs think.
     
     
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Or course its not dying but we are witnessing the fruition of far left policy take hold nation wide. Like the elves who left middle earth, so too do Clinton era new democrats find themselves at odds with the next generation. Pipe weed, ale?
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I'm surprised the Chronicle forgot that their own former columnist, Herb Cain, called it "the cool gray city of love".
I'm not surprised by any doofus statements found in a Hearst publication. Both the Houston Chronicle, to which I subscribe, and the San Antonio Express-News, in the city where I reside, are owned by Hearst. The company seems to shift writers around different cities like some journalistic shell game to the point where you end up with reporters who are lucky if they can find their new city's downtown. Forget about them knowing any of its history.
     
     
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How can one city cause so much frustration for people thousands of miles away?
Oh well, rural America also has crime and poop.
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I kind of wish this thread is moved to General Discussion and is labeled silly Google searches about cities. Literally the same results could have been for any city in the world.

The content really isn't about cities, and is just attracting those that want to poop on San Francisco.
     
     
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