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Old Posted Jan 18, 2022, 8:59 PM
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"Data center" is a pipe dream, although Related did look at the property hoping that could work. Remember, this "building" has no interior floors; just catwalks and piping around the boilers. So if you've built a new skeleton and put on a new skin, what exactly have you preserved? The idea of an industrial structure?
I do have a soft spot for the boiler building, but it has so many strikes against it. Access is the biggest issue IMO, which I why I think the data center concept was considered less absurd than some of the other long-shot preservation ideas.
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It would be great if they could move part or all of that huge eyesore ComEd substation into the power house somehow, thus solving two problems with one stone. Although that's almost certainly impossible, given the size of that infrastructure vs the size of the building, and the cost of moving it.

As accessibility is a problem, and there is no good way to reuse the building since its basically a big shell with no floorplates and a huge boiler in it, maybe the city can just light it up at night and have it be an attractive piece of architecture along the river? As there's no ROI on doing something like that, I would guess that option would be a moonshot as well.

Welp, data center it is
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2022, 2:52 AM
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Newer rendering - The Reed in the center
I'm confused. This podium is already really unfortunate, but it looks like the design was changed again because in the rendering the windows extend all the way to the eastern edge of the north face where there is now a blank concrete wall. On top of the fact that the floors are not flat guaranteeing this will stay a parking podium it seems. It's possible they will just hang the windows as a facade to imitate the rendering, but if that is the case it will probably look weird.
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Even in a garage with flat floorplates, you still need ramps between floors obviously. In the case of a large garage, you can still have most of the floor be flat and suitable for future conversion, but in a compact podium like this there's no way to avoid sloping large portions of the floor area.

I'm guessing they need that solid panel at left for shear, but they may extend the glass screen wall in front of it.

I did find this rendering which may be slightly newer, it looks like the screen wall has switched from glass to a metal mesh and is vertical stripes rather than being a randomized pattern:
https://chicagoarchitecturebiennial....-southbank.jpg
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2022, 4:24 AM
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Newer rendering - The Reed in the center
I see I am a year late to comment on the rendering, but the latest photos showcasing the 'parking bunker' on the river implored me to backtrack to this image...

...only to say, what a fucking turd. I hope Ralph Johnson takes a ride on the water taxi just to throw rocks at this civic embarrassment.
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Even in a garage with flat floorplates, you still need ramps between floors obviously. In the case of a large garage, you can still have most of the floor be flat and suitable for future conversion, but in a compact podium like this there's no way to avoid sloping large portions of the floor area.

I'm guessing they need that solid panel at left for shear, but they may extend the glass screen wall in front of it.

I did find this rendering which may be slightly newer, it looks like the screen wall has switched from glass to a metal mesh and is vertical stripes rather than being a randomized pattern:
https://chicagoarchitecturebiennial....-southbank.jpg
Thanks for finding that rendering. I remembered it, but couldn't find it.

I would be more understanding about the sloped floor area in the garage if it wasn't so hideous. I can only hope there's the faint possibility that those original townhomes could be added on at some point in the future. Though maybe I should hold my judgment until I see the facade treatment.
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The removal of the townhomes is the worst part about the redesign. Hopefully there is still room to add them in as a future component. I would think they'd be easier to sell than the condos.
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This whole project is just subpar. dissapointing.
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This whole project is just subpar. dissapointing.
Very

puke comes to mind
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2022, 11:55 PM
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puke comes to mind
Buildings look like all those new generic apartment buildings popping up in Atlanta/Nashville/Dallas. Sunbelt-quality development on prime riverfront property, sad.

This building wasn't too bad in the first iterations, but they kept dumbing it down. The base is all parking, smh. I mean it's better than the vacant grass lot that was there before, but my point still stands...

Let's just hope the 78 nearby brings quality development and gets that casino proposal.

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This whole project is just subpar. dissapointing.
Yea, are the 5-600 footers even UC yet / will they be anytime soon? Kind of misleading title if not...

Nice to see this area develop in any case
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2022, 1:42 AM
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In the future, when you look up the term "VE trainwreck" in the dictionary, there will be a picture of this development.
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The garage looks like was designed to withstand 500 lbs. of conventional airborne ordinance... only uglier.

The wrapped the base of The Cooper with active use (townhouses), but basically said fuck it here?
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2022, 1:02 AM
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This whole project is just subpar. dissapointing.
Troubling is that there is much more to come.
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2022, 3:35 AM
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In the future, when you look up the term "VE trainwreck" in the dictionary, there will be a picture of this development.
The real shame is that this faces the architecture boat tours.
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2022, 3:54 PM
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At what point does "value engineering" become "bait-and-switch"?
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At what point does "value engineering" become "bait-and-switch"?
They released a rendering of the revised design and then appear to be building that exact design.
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2022, 4:14 PM
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The real shame is that this faces the architecture boat tours.
It's not like the west bank is anything awesome along this stretch of river. Really no reason for the boat tours to come down there other than River City? And yes, this development is underwhelming at best.
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