How Is Covid-19 Impacting Life in Your City? - Page 363

homebucket · #**7241** Posted **Jul 27, 2021, 11:09 PM**

On the website, it looks like Nashville hot chicken is being featured as an example of "Chicago's Best Eats". It really is all over the place! If this isn't evidence of Nashville's widespread cultural impact across the country, I don't know what is.

hauntedheadnc · #**7242** Posted **Jul 27, 2021, 11:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by JManc

Lollapalooza? 1995 called and wants their music back.

Well, they can't have it back. I'd rather listen to the futile prayers of orphans than the trash they try to pass off as alt-rock these days.

And while we're at it, get off my lawn.

Camelback · #**7243** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 1:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by JManc

Lollapalooza? 1995 called and wants their music back.

I mean, Sinéad O'Connor was lit during Lollapalooza '95.

She really wails. (Wayne's World reference).

JManc · #**7244** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 3:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

I recommend checking out their music lineup. It’s not 1995

That much is clear. Post Malone, Miley Cyrus, Marshmello and Megan Thee Stallion?

BnaBreaker · #**7245** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 4:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

Well, my wife and I are headed to Lollapalooza this Saturday!!

I'm not going to Lolla, but I will be at all four days of Riot Fest in September... Smashing Pumpkins, Nine Inch Nails, The Pixies, Devo, Lupe Fiasco, Run The Jewels, Gogol Bordello, Sublime... anybody remember Mighty Mighty Bosstones? LOL... they'll be there too, for some reason!

glowrock · #**7246** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 12:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by BnaBreaker

I'm not going to Lolla, but I will be at all four days of Riot Fest in September... Smashing Pumpkins, Nine Inch Nails, The Pixies, Devo, Lupe Fiasco, Run The Jewels, Gogol Bordello, Sublime... anybody remember Mighty Mighty Bosstones? LOL... they'll be there too, for some reason!

Hell of a lot better than the crap that passes for Lolla nowadays.

Aaron (Glowrock)

MonkeyRonin · #**7247** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 1:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

Another impact: reduced business hours and a very slow return to normal hours.

My wife and I are off work right now and looking to eat out a lot, and we're running into lots of places that are closed.

A few days ago we were in a popular resort area not too far from here and found numerous places were closed on Monday and Tuesday, in the middle of what is normally peak tourist season.

Today we were back home and looking to go out for lunch, and tons of places that would all be open for lunch on a weekday were all closed.

The place we ended up going to, at around 1:45, was full but we got a table.

It's a staffing problem - a lot of service industry or tourist-oriented places are having a hard time finding people to work. After a year and a half of on-and-off lockdowns, a lot of former employees have moved on to new careers and/or just left the city entirely.

10023 · #**7248** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 3:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

https://www.sfchronicle.com/food/res...s-16335415.php

Are fully vaccinated employees really “getting sick”, or are they just testing positive for Covid? These are not the same thing.

eschaton · #**7249** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 3:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by 10023

Are fully vaccinated employees really “getting sick”, or are they just testing positive for Covid? These are not the same thing.

IIRC the CDC is now telling the vaccinated not to even get tested for COVID following exposure unless they develop symptoms, because too many false positives are showing up in some states which is screwing up the totals.

This is different than even an asymptomatic infection. PCR tests can show you as infected if you were exposed to the virus and have a small amount of live virus in your upper respiratory track which your body successfully clears before it becomes established. Or even if you are shedding some dead virus.

the urban politician · #**7250** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 3:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by eschaton

This is different than even an asymptomatic infection. PCR tests can show you as infected if you were exposed to the virus and have a small amount of live virus in your upper respiratory track which your body successfully clears before it becomes established. Or even if you are shedding some dead virus.

Exactly.

the urban politician · #**7251** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 3:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by glowrock

Hell of a lot better than the crap that passes for Lolla nowadays.

Aaron (Glowrock)

Well, I may never make it to Lolla. I'm trusting Stubhub to deliver tickets (ie wristbands) to me.

And I'm not sure they will arrive in time.

Warning: Stubhub doesn't have a viable customer service line

twister244 · #**7252** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 4:07 PM**

My trip to London is fully on for sure now! Yes!

https://www.reuters.com/business/ret...or-2021-07-28/

Camelback · #**7253** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 6:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by 10023

Are fully vaccinated employees really “getting sick”, or are they just testing positive for Covid? These are not the same thing.

100.

Cases really mean next to nothing now. Most of the unvaccinated are young people, and they don't die. On top of that, fully vaccinated people are not getting sick enough to go to the hospital. The mRNA vaccines are doing their job. This DELTA (fear porn) wave will pass in short time.

Cases of young people meant nothing last summer - this spring also (because young people don't go to the hospital and die).

Camelback · #**7254** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 6:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by eschaton

PCR tests can show you as infected if you were exposed to the virus and have a small amount of live virus in your upper respiratory track which your body successfully clears before it becomes established. Or even if you are shedding some dead virus.

PCR test is not reliable. Like you said, there are a lot of false positives. It detects viral particles and gives a positive result, when in fact there is no real live virus present.

Pedestrian · #**7255** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 8:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Camelback

PCR test is not reliable. Like you said, there are a lot of false positives. It detects viral particles and gives a positive result, when in fact there is no real live virus present.

That isn't "unreliability". It is a test for viral nucleic acid and it is highly reliable in revealing the presence of what it's designed for. You are correct that it doesn't tell you whether the virus is infective or not. Research indicates that it probably isn't in mild cases 10 days after symptom onset or, if there are no symptoms, 10 days after the first positive test or 14 days after the likely point of infection.

If somebody has a positive PCR they either have or had covid. You then have to deduct whether they are likely in the recovery period when the virus isn't likely infective or not.

Pedestrian · #**7256** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 8:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by 10023

Are fully vaccinated employees really “getting sick”, or are they just testing positive for Covid? These are not the same thing.

I'll tell you tomorrow. I was exposed 7 days ago and began feeling headachy and having a slight runny nose Saturday. I'm having a test in an hour.. If it's positive, I'd say I got mildly "sick". Actually, if it gets no worse I'll be happy because I was contemplating getting a booster in September or October and getting a mild case of covid, likely to be the delta strain, is probably even better . . . as long as it gets no worse than this.

Pedestrian · #**7257** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 8:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Camelback

100.

Cases really mean next to nothing now. Most of the unvaccinated are young people, and they don't die. On top of that, fully vaccinated people are not getting sick enough to go to the hospital. The mRNA vaccines are doing their job. This DELTA (fear porn) wave will pass in short time.

Cases of young people meant nothing last summer - this spring also (because young people don't go to the hospital and die).

In places where there are high numbers of the unvaccinated, hospitals are filling up. You can pretend otherwise, but they are.

the urban politician · #**7258** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 8:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

I'll tell you tomorrow. I was exposed 7 days ago and began feeling headachy and having a slight runny nose Saturday. I'm having a test in an hour.. If it's positive, I'd say I got mildly "sick". Actually, if it gets no worse I'll be happy because I was contemplating getting a booster in September or October and getting a mild case of covid, likely to be the delta strain, is probably even better . . . as long as it gets no worse than this.

See, now there you go, Howard. You've just encountered your worst fear. After all this time in your basement, you just got...........OMG! Could it be? COVID!!

Congratulations, you're not dead or dying. You've been vaccinated. All is good. You can finally reemerge and join society.

Camelback · #**7259** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 8:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

In places where there are high numbers of the unvaccinated, hospitals are filling up. You can pretend otherwise, but they are.

I bolded the key word...unvaccinated. 30% of the population is not vaccinated.

This DELTA fear porn wave is nothing to be worried about and is nothing to change guidance from.

Let's move on and get on with life. After DELTA there will be more variants.

Btw, Delta Airlines should sue the shit out of the WHO. Lol.

eschaton · #**7260** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 8:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Camelback

100.

Cases really mean next to nothing now. Most of the unvaccinated are young people, and they don't die. On top of that, fully vaccinated people are not getting sick enough to go to the hospital. The mRNA vaccines are doing their job. This DELTA (fear porn) wave will pass in short time.

Cases of young people meant nothing last summer - this spring also (because young people don't go to the hospital and die).

If you just divide the official number of daily COVID cases by the official number of daily deaths, it still works out to an 0.46% fatality rate. Which is better than back in 2020, but not by an order of magnitude.

Unless you think there are a lot of people getting infected with COVID right now who are asymptomatic/never get tested, we're still looking at another 200,000 or so dead before we hit herd immunity - without a spike in vaccination rates.