CHICAGO | Salesforce Tower | 850 FT | 60 FLOORS - Page 78

kolchak · #**1541** Posted **Sep 14, 2020, 5:04 PM**

This morning - building the core:

Toasty Joe · #**1542** Posted **Sep 14, 2020, 8:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by TallBob

Am I just imagining things or are there a lot of buildings going up in several cities that are all resembling one another? This one resemble 110 Wacker doesn't it? Same height a little narrower though. Aside from that it's a nice building....another 100 feet would be OK!

Fairly similar. This is definitely not going to help the blue glass wall being formed when looking at downtown from the west... River Point, 150 N Riverside, 110 N Wacker, now WPS... all 730-820 feet, lining the river in the same direction

TallBob · #**1543** Posted **Sep 15, 2020, 5:05 AM**

My thoughts were if everything is going to have a similar design then IMO there should be a height difference....950' and then maybe something 750-800' breaks up the monotony of a 750-800 foot tabletop skyline! Just my observation.

Skyguy_7 · #**1544** Posted **Sep 15, 2020, 4:22 PM**

As I'm sure you know, that's not how free market economics work with regard to skyscraper construction, unfortunately. Would have been nice to see 5 more narrow floors on the final setback along with a spire, which would be close to the original rendering. Maybe we'll get a surprise. If not, womp womp.

Toasty Joe · #**1545** Posted **Sep 16, 2020, 2:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7

As I'm sure you know, that's not how free market economics work with regard to skyscraper construction, unfortunately. Would have been nice to see 5 more narrow floors on the final setback along with a spire, which would be close to the original rendering. Maybe we'll get a surprise. If not, womp womp.

literally the one potentially positive thing about aldermanic privilege, but they waste it pandering to NIMBYs and bogus traffic studies

southoftheloop · #**1546** Posted **Sep 16, 2020, 2:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by sentinel

I don't believe I've ever seen this rendering before:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/colum...ivq-story.html

Looks great from this angle. Classy. Would be very happy if it turns out as rendered.

bnk · #**1547** Posted **Sep 16, 2020, 5:05 AM**

Super awesome construction pics on this page and the renders.

Keep them coming thank you.

i love the cranes and the counterweights

Massive structures in themselves.

One picture has over 110 tons of counterweights.

The tower cranes and that massive multi axil self moving crane is just mind boggling. Men are still building great things.

No small plans here other than a 100 foot haircut.

Ill still revel in the addition right in the middle of an upcoming recession and urban issues going way back to the cona.

What a super location. Finally hiding the sun times and the cheap Holiday Inn motel in the sky from the riverboat views.

I cannot wait for another river tour.

Hopefully with a proper Docent that can go off the script and answer questions along the way and has a microphone loud enough to hear. Too many times I have encountered those that can only just read a script and are often hard to hear even if your close enough to them to try to lead their lips.

That said which is the best and most educational tour cruise out there.

When I bring visitors form out of town, often for the first time ever they are always aghast and utterly amazed, to the city I prefer for them to really be educated and have the ability to ask questions about any said building or future building going up or just a general history of the river lake and city streamlessly.

Barrelfish · #**1548** Posted **Sep 16, 2020, 4:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by bnk

That said which is the best and most educational tour cruise out there.

When I bring visitors form out of town, often for the first time ever they are always aghast and utterly amazed, to the city I prefer for them to really be educated and have the ability to ask questions about any said building or future building going up or just a general history of the river lake and city streamlessly.

Chicago Architecture Center seems to be the consensus best cruise operator. I've done theirs a few times and really enjoyed it. The one other one I've done (I think Wendella? the one that docks near the base of trump tower) was still good but noticeably a notch down in quality.

Skyguy_7 · #**1549** Posted **Sep 16, 2020, 5:05 PM**

^^ Whichever tour BVic guides!

harryc · #**1550** Posted **Sep 17, 2020, 1:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7

^^ Whichever tour BVic guides!

Second that !

harryc · #**1551** Posted **Sep 17, 2020, 1:27 AM**

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harryc · #**1552** Posted **Sep 27, 2020, 2:12 AM**

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so red it hurts ( and over-saturates )

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PittsburghPA · #**1553** Posted **Sep 28, 2020, 10:55 PM**

chris08876 · #**1554** Posted **Oct 2, 2020, 12:16 AM**

Credit: James Novotny

Skyguy_7 · #**1555** Posted **Oct 2, 2020, 1:26 PM**

^She is getting exciting!

harryc · #**1556** Posted **Oct 7, 2020, 3:14 AM**

Oct 5

takascar · #**1557** Posted **Oct 8, 2020, 3:30 PM**

Is this going to be steel frame or concrete? I see pillars that appear to be concrete. I thought office buildings were usually steel because it takes less space and the floorplates need to have more space

Toasty Joe · #**1558** Posted **Oct 8, 2020, 6:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by takascar

Is this going to be steel frame or concrete? I see pillars that appear to be concrete. I thought office buildings were usually steel because it takes less space and the floorplates need to have more space

seems like more office buildings built in the last 5 years in Chicago have used reinforced concrete, sometimes a mix of steel & concrete - see some recent posts in the BMO tower thread

It appears to be cheaper, and I believe someone in-the-know on here has previously mentioned progress in its durability, or at least our use of it. Concrete prices may also be low due to an abundance from digging out the Deep Tunnel... 8th paragraph: https://slate.com/business/2019/01/c...nary-tale.html

harryc · #**1559** Posted **Oct 8, 2020, 6:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Toasty Joe

seems like more office buildings built in the last 5 years in Chicago have used reinforced concrete, sometimes a mix of steel & concrete - see some recent posts in the BMO tower thread

It appears to be cheaper, and I believe someone in-the-know on here has previously mentioned progress in its durability, or at least our use of it. Concrete prices may also be low due to an abundance from digging out the Deep Tunnel... 8th paragraph: https://slate.com/business/2019/01/c...nary-tale.html

BMO is what we call a steel structure. Both steel and concrete towers have a concrete elevator core as their spine (and fire escapes). Both steel and concrete use concrete piers for the foundation ( or bundles of steel piles tied up in a concrete mat ).

don't know which type this one will be.

Bombardier · #**1560** Posted **Oct 8, 2020, 9:01 PM**

This will be steel. The type of crane is the giveaway. The large diesel cranes are used for steel structures while the concrete structures typically use the lighter electric tower cranes.