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Old Posted Feb 20, 2020, 12:35 PM
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The JFK redevelopment is a bit different. There will be a huge new Terminal 1 (one of the largest terminals anywhere), Terminal 4 will be expanded, primarily for Delta, Terminal 5 will be expanded for JetBlue and British Airways, mostly, and Terminal 8 (currently the largest) will be expanded for AA, mostly.

So JFK will have gone from nine smaller terminals to four huge terminals, basically. And all the terminals will be new or newish (the oldest, Terminal 8, is maybe 10-15 years old).

Three existing, operational terminals will be demolished- Terminal 1, Terminal 2, and Terminal 7. Terminals 3 and 9 were demolished relatively recently (T3 was the old PanAM terminal and was largest in the world when built).

The other major JFK improvement concerns mobility. The Airtrain is doubling capacity/frequency, and the roadway network is being completely rebuilt.
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2020, 8:39 PM
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If they did the runways right, they could free up a lot of land for terminal development.

In addition they could also fix some problems caused by the current runway orientation. As it is, the 13-31s cause issues with plane having to deal with Manhattan skyscrapers (mentioned in the Regional Plan Association report.) Rotating that traffic out over the harbor, instead of over Manhattan would help with that. It would also increase the distance of those approaches from the threshold of LGA runway 4. I've heard that's an issue also.

Finally, someone mentioned the Jamaica Bay landfill issue. It would have to be done. But the part of the bay directly adjacent to the airport is already dead (killed off by the last expansion, again as per the RPA report.) That' the only part of the bay that would be necessary to fill.

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This thread is Penn Station 2.0. Finally new terminals for JFK, upgraded transit and roadways, and now people are complaining the runways haven't been expanded yet.

The fact you can't fix everything at once doesn't mean you fix nothing. Runway expansion will probably take decades, and Cuomo will long since be retired. It's a very complex political and environmental issue.
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