What street(s) divides your city, east/west and/or north/south?
In Toronto, Yonge St. is the city's main north-south thoroughfare divides the city east and west. However unlike in a lot of cities it doesn't really divide the city into the more affluent and more working class parts of town. Wealth in Toronto is concentrated in a "central corridor" centered on Yonge St. running north from the downtown core. Also nobody really thinks of the neighborhoods just east of Yonge or just west of Yonge as "east side" or "west side."
As actual North/South/East/West street names go Miami-Dade's NS divider is pretty ho-hum: Flagler St. North of it is "NW" and "NE" streets, south of it is SE and SW streets. The EW divider though is Miami Ave which is on the far east of the county so there are a few NE neighborhoods but only a couple SE streets in the whole county. The "0 point" of the grid is in the middle of downtown Miami at the intersection of Flagler St and Miami Ave. Only like 0.1% of the County is South East of that point.
Interesting how both DC and Houston have a "beltway" divide.
Baltimore had one first. I remember when I was a child what a wonder the Baltimore Beltway was (DC's had yet to be built--then I watched them build it).
In Windsor it's Ouellette Avenue and in Detroit it's Woodward Avenue...they almost line up perfectly.
I never thought about that, but you're right. Wow.
Another significant street in Detroit is the infamous 8 Mile Road. At one point, "8 Mile Road" was shorthand for black and white racial segregation in Metro Detroit. As recently as the 1990s, most of the suburbs on the north side of 8 Mile Road were less than 5% black (the notable exception is Southfield, which has had a large plurality of black residents since the 1980s). Nowadays, almost all of the suburbs along Detroit's northern border are at least 10%, and some of them are majority black.
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In Cincinnati, Vine Street is (was?) usually considered the dividing line between East Side and West Side. The Ohio River is the Mason-Dixon Line.
In Phoenix, Central Avenue serves the same purpose between east and west.
Not sure what's considered the divide between north and south in Phoenix, historically or presently? McDowell? Buckeye? Van Buren/Washington/Jefferson? Baseline?
In Cincinnati, Vine Street is (was?) usually considered the dividing line between East Side and West Side. The Ohio River is the Mason-Dixon Line.
In Phoenix, Central Avenue serves the same purpose between east and west.
Not sure what's considered the divide between north and south in Phoenix, historically or presently? McDowell? Buckeye? Van Buren/Washington/Jefferson? Baseline?
These days I think Northern Ave is a north/south divide in Phoenix, which is kind of funny.
These days I think Northern Ave is a north/south divide in Phoenix, which is kind of funny.
Yeah Northern is geographically centered today, even Southern Ave isn't all that southern, especially in the East Valley, it's pretty much center as well.
n Phoenix, Central Avenue serves the same purpose between east and west.
Not sure what's considered the divide between north and south in Phoenix, historically or presently? McDowell? Buckeye? Van Buren/Washington/Jefferson? Baseline?
In Phoenix proper, I would go with North Mountain. Anything south of it is sort of Central Phoenix. Everything north of it is definitely North Phoenix.
Ahwatukee (neighborhood of Phoenix) is on the south facing slope of South Mountain and is disconnected and much farther south than South Phoenix, that's a Geographic Oddity for sure.
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In Phoenix proper, I would go with North Mountain. Anything south of it is sort of Central Phoenix. Everything north of it is definitely North Phoenix.
Ahwatukee (neighborhood of Phoenix) is on the south facing slope of South Mountain and is disconnected and much farther south than South Phoenix, that's a Geographic Oddity for sure.
I used to live in Ahwatukee and always considered Baseline as being the separation of north and south. Though there are way more people north of Baseline. I also considered Central as being the east to west divider.
I used to live in Ahwatukee and always considered Baseline as being the separation of north and south. Though there are way more people north of Baseline. I also considered Central as being the east to west divider.
Yeah that resinates with me. Baseline was the first street that went from the East Valley (Tempe) into South Phoenix. It was the first real Blvd/St/Ave that went towards and into the core city from the East Valley. Ahwatukee (Phoenix) didn't really count for streets like Elliot, Warner, Ray, Chandler Blvd because they didn't go into core Phoenix and they all dead ended into Ahwatukee Phoenix, they felt more like an extension of Chandler and South Tempe, with the dramatic backdrop of South Mountain looming overhead.
These days I think Northern Ave is a north/south divide in Phoenix, which is kind of funny.
Sounds about right. I was thinking Southern was "too far south" except through the East Valley.
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Originally Posted by Camelback
In Phoenix proper, I would go with North Mountain. Anything south of it is sort of Central Phoenix. Everything north of it is definitely North Phoenix.
Ahwatukee (neighborhood of Phoenix) is on the south facing slope of South Mountain and is disconnected and much farther south than South Phoenix, that's a Geographic Oddity for sure.
I lived in Ahwatukee (graduated high school there) and was, as a map/geography dork, endlessly amused that South Mountain was due north of where I lived.
Really created a sense of isolation from the rest of the City of Phoenix, even though it's a 20 minute drive to Downtown.
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