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Old Posted Feb 7, 2020, 11:44 PM
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or how about redvelopment of that utterly atrocious walgreens and its massive parking lot.

how come that shit always sticks around like a plague, but the nice vintage brick commercial building with terra cotta details (and it's great little neighrborhood pizza joint) gets tossed aside.

this town is just plain old fucking retarded at times.
Just sent off an angry email to the Alderman!

Well yea redevelop the shitty Walgreens or any of the crap strip malls along Lincoln nearby!

Plus, he is going to displace a beloved local Chicago small business owner for some national chain no doubt when he jacks up the rent there. As a socialist Alderman I would think he would be concerned about that at least.

This town is messed up when it comes to preserving our historic buildings. Stuff like this is why I wanted to move to Chicago in the first place.
But we can never get rid of the god awful Walgreens.
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Just sent off an angry email to the Alderman!

Well yea redevelop the shitty Walgreens or any of the crap strip malls along Lincoln nearby!

Plus, he is going to displace a beloved local Chicago small business owner for some national chain no doubt when he jacks up the rent there. As a socialist Alderman I would think he would be concerned about that at least.

This town is messed up when it comes to preserving our historic buildings. Stuff like this is why I wanted to move to Chicago in the first place.
But we can never get rid of the god awful Walgreens.
Is it the Alderman who owns these two properties and is proposing keeping the Walgreens and demolishing the historic building?
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From Crains, why Chicago Opportunity Zones are not attracting much investment:

After spending 18 months evaluating some 750 potential real estate developments in low-income neighborhoods around the country, Craig Bernstein is finding viable projects to bet on. Just not in Chicago.

His Washington, D.C.-based private-equity fund is backing a new $45 million mixed-use complex near an upscale shopping center in Charlottesville, Va., its first foray into opportunity zones—areas designated by a two-year-old federal program meant to revive poor communities. It's eyeing others in cities like Nashville, Tenn.; Columbus, Ohio; Portland; and Austin, Texas.

Bernstein has kicked the tires on deals in Chicago's opportunity zones, too. "But at this point we've been hesitant" to fund them, he says. "Our goal is to find what we believe are the best of the best."

His approach highlights a major critique of the opportunity zone program and an obstacle Chicago's most depressed neighborhoods need to overcome to take advantage of it. The incentive allows investors to defer or avoid taxes on capital gains if they redirect those profits into any of the roughly 8,700 designated zones nationwide.

Investment firms have formed more than 300 funds that have collectively raised over $7.5 billion to date to deploy into those blighted areas, according to surveys by San Francisco-based tax advisory and consulting firm Novogradac. That doesn't include money privately invested by high-net-worth individuals and corporations that could double or triple that total, the firm estimates.

But convincing those investors to funnel that money to Chicago's zones—which are mostly in areas of extreme need on the city's South and West sides—has proven to be difficult. Many funds are gravitating to other markets whose zones are in areas that don't need a tax incentive to fuel development.

"I think many investors recognize Chicago is probably at a slight disadvantage compared to some other communities across the nation," says Bob Tucker, chief operating officer of the Chicago Community Loan Fund, which provides low-cost financing to community-focused developers for affordable housing and other economic development efforts.

Many economic development advocates predicted the vast disparity among opportunity zones, which states designated based on different criteria using 2010 census data. Those figures might have shown a neighborhood that was blighted back then and qualified for the program, even if it had been gentrified since. A luxury residential tower in downtown Houston qualifies, for example, as do new offices and luxury condos in trendy downtown Portland.
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^^ Looking at the map of opportunity zones in the city, it makes sense that development has been so slow. However, there are two zones in particular that seem like they should have had more development or will have more development in the future. The zone above the United Center is prime real estate for the expansion of the West Loop (why have there been no residential projects here yet?). The zone around McCormick also seems like a win. I know there has been some projects in Motor Row around there but not nearly enough it seems. I guess I'm just disappointed that these zones are being underutilized.

City Map of Opportunity Zones:
http://sbf.maps.arcgis.com/apps/weba...e35ade9c6383b1
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^Regarding the area north of the United Center (Fulton Market West?) I think it's most likely because the only zoning is PMD or Planned Developments. Not much opportunity to develop any existing lot.

I know the IMD is trying to leverage their opportunity zone for a new mixed-use district. Their trying to attract life sciences and other businesses, and have been trying to rezone the area to have parking maximums.
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^^ Looking at the map of opportunity zones in the city, it makes sense that development has been so slow. However, there are two zones in particular that seem like they should have had more development or will have more development in the future. The zone above the United Center is prime real estate for the expansion of the West Loop (why have there been no residential projects here yet?). The zone around McCormick also seems like a win. I know there has been some projects in Motor Row around there but not nearly enough it seems. I guess I'm just disappointed that these zones are being underutilized.

City Map of Opportunity Zones:
http://sbf.maps.arcgis.com/apps/weba...e35ade9c6383b1
Gotta love it when opportunity zones are legitimately in areas that desperately need development here in Chicago, but are essentially in the growing, hippest parts of many other cities. What gives? Perhaps major overhauls to these zones nationwide need to be made using upcoming 2020 census data?

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Good news. There's a proposal to Tear down the Cole Taylor bank drive thru and parking lot at Armitage & Western iacross from Margie's Candies n Logan Square and replace it with a new 4 story, 21 unit building with retail and 11 parking spaces (garage).

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9176...7i13312!8i6656
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Glad this is being preserved but too little and too late. This neighborhood could have been Chicago's Beacon Hill.
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^^ Looking at the map of opportunity zones in the city, it makes sense that development has been so slow. However, there are two zones in particular that seem like they should have had more development or will have more development in the future. The zone above the United Center is prime real estate for the expansion of the West Loop (why have there been no residential projects here yet?). The zone around McCormick also seems like a win. I know there has been some projects in Motor Row around there but not nearly enough it seems. I guess I'm just disappointed that these zones are being underutilized.

City Map of Opportunity Zones:
http://sbf.maps.arcgis.com/apps/weba...e35ade9c6383b1
I might be getting slightly political here but I don't believe the process of choosing opportunity zones was very fair in every state. Chicago's makes sense while here in New Orleans, freret street (an already gentrifying neighborhood corridor) and the entire CBD are in opportunity zones... areas of cancer alley along the Mississippi are in them as well, seemingly to promote more industrial development. While Illinois may have chose appropriate census tracts for the opportunity zones I personally believe that our neighborhoods are loosing out because of inappropriate selection of opportunity zones in gentrified and already sustained neighborhoods in other states... I'm not sure what can be done at the local level but personally I'm already happy seeing promised investment in the form of projects like south bridge, that new east Garfield park proposal and Garfield Green. The next step is the see the city/ developers follow through.
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Good news. There's a proposal to Tear down the Cole Taylor bank drive thru and parking lot at Armitage & Western iacross from Margie's Candies n Logan Square and replace it with a new 4 story, 21 unit building with retail and 11 parking spaces (garage).

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9176...7i13312!8i6656
Great! That will add to the pressure to replace the McDonalds and Walgreens.
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Great! That will add to the pressure to replace the McDonalds and Walgreens.
and the numerous vacant lots that do not have thriving businesses on them.
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I might be getting slightly political here but I don't believe the process of choosing opportunity zones was very fair in every state. Chicago's makes sense while here in New Orleans, freret street (an already gentrifying neighborhood corridor) and the entire CBD are in opportunity zones... areas of cancer alley along the Mississippi are in them as well, seemingly to promote more industrial development. While Illinois may have chose appropriate census tracts for the opportunity zones I personally believe that our neighborhoods are loosing out because of inappropriate selection of opportunity zones in gentrified and already sustained neighborhoods in other states... I'm not sure what can be done at the local level but personally I'm already happy seeing promised investment in the form of projects like south bridge, that new east Garfield park proposal and Garfield Green. The next step is the see the city/ developers follow through.
I'm sure they're imperfect processes, especially since no one really knows what should go into an opportunity zone. "The market" isn't necessarily good at identifying how to utilize a disadvantaged resource, even if the resource is granted a special status. Contrary to the beliefs of certain conservatives and neo-liberals, taxes are usually a minor consideration for businesses choosing where to locate, so merely offering them a generic reduction in taxes might get them to put a place on a list of places to consider but it doesn't magically solve infrastructure or workforce issues. I don't think opportunity zones are necessarily that helpful unless they're places that need investment and then government actually seeds them with infrastructure investment to make them more viable for businesses.

Someone else talked about the zone just north of the United Center and that it hasn't had much happen in it. It will, and the Damen stop on the Green Line might help some, even if the Ashland stop hasn't really helped. When I first moved to Chicago in 1995, I lived at Madison and Morgan for a while, as a student living in staff quarters at a residential rehab program. There were some nice restaurants on Randolph already, and a couple early condo projects were just getting started, and a few fancy hair stylist places had opened up, but it was still an area where I'd get offered what I'll phrase as "oral pleasure" for $5 from crackheads of all genders. Since then you've seen what the area has become, and it's become generally safe to visit any part of the West Side to at least Western, whereas going west of Halsted was questionable unless you were going to Oprah's or UIC for a long time, and then Racine and then Ashland and now Western or maybe even California. And it's pretty obvious it will be "safe enough" all the way to Kedzie soon enough. The west side of Garfield Park (the actual park) will still be sketchy for decades, but east of there will likely fully gentrify by 2030 or, at the latest, 2040, as long as Chicago's core keeps growing. So it's really just a matter of time before that Opportunity zone north of the United Center becomes popular, but it won't because of its designation that it does so, it will be because its in the path of inevitable progress.
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By the time you hit Damen you’re pretty far west. Even with the new L station, I don’t see anything but moderate density residential/neighborhood commercial taking off there, so it’ll likely be a slow process.

The southwest Loop (city should rebrand this area as University Village East or something) and the north branch seem to be next in line for a makeover.
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By the time you hit Damen you’re pretty far west. Even with the new L station, I don’t see anything but moderate density residential/neighborhood commercial taking off there, so it’ll likely be a slow process.

The southwest Loop (city should rebrand this area as University Village East or something) and the north branch seem to be next in line for a makeover.
Funny you mention this. The parcel at the NW corner of Damen/Lake went up for sale in June, but as of this Saturday, the sign on-site indicated that it's already been sold.

https://www.crexi.com/properties/222...eet-chicago-il

I wonder if some developer is planning a more intensive development there? $16M is a pretty high price to pay if you're just gonna lease out a few single-story bow truss buildings... with the PMD zoning there, though, you can only do office.

Also, CTA just edited the routing of the California bus so folks in Logan and Humboldt can now ride to a direct Green Line connection instead of going to the Blue Line. That should throw a little more fuel on the fire of the Lake St/Fulton corridor...
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