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Old Posted Apr 1, 2021, 12:50 PM
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I'm going to presume that they may have limited their presentation to locations that were in what is generally considered Hollywood.
IF that's the case, I'm going to just assume that it may have been the 7435 Sunset location.
I tried to find more information about "Barry's Battery and Ignition", if I'm reading that sign correctly, however in my admittedly breif search I wasn't able to find anything.
(I'm at work, and didn't bring my laptop with me, and trying to do that level of searching on my phone is somewhat more tedious than I have the patience for at this moment.)
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Old Posted Apr 1, 2021, 6:26 PM
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Ah-ha!

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odinthor and Noir Noir's posts reminded me of this old post from 2013. To this day I've never been able to find #424 in any photographs of Calles de los Negros. (unless I did & forgot about it)

Be sure to read the long article. It's quite descriptive.
Thank you for bringing this up again, I have often recalled reading about this at the time, however I couldn't recall the particulars later. I kept meaning to get back to it but just hadn't. Only last week I was wondering about it again.
The thing that gets me is Sergeant Sebastian, every time I see his photo I think to myself: "That man's a police sergeant?"

Anyway, re-reading this has opened a lot of questions for me again, and so now I'm off to get lost in this chase for a while.

Again, thank you.
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Old Posted Apr 1, 2021, 10:20 PM
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Before we get too far removed from Samarkand/The Freezer posts I wanted to point out another unknown location.


It appears in a short film from 1927 titled Hollywood the Unusual. (which we have seen earlier in the year)

I thought we might be able to figure out this particular location because of the various clues.

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Here's a picture of what looks like the same Freezer location.

You can see some of what's on the other side of the intersection, it stood close to.



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Old Posted Apr 2, 2021, 7:13 AM
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I'm going to presume that they may have limited their presentation to locations that were in what is generally considered Hollywood.
IF that's the case, I'm going to just assume that it may have been the 7435 Sunset location.
I tried to find more information about "Barry's Battery and Ignition", if I'm reading that sign correctly, however in my admittedly breif search I wasn't able to find anything.
(I'm at work, and didn't bring my laptop with me, and trying to do that level of searching on my phone is somewhat more tedious than I have the patience for at this moment.)
Could the " B" be an "H"-- "Harry's Battery..."? The sign is blurry.
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Old Posted Apr 2, 2021, 12:48 PM
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I've been looking at a sign in our Samarkand picture . . . but not the Battery & Ignition one. Here's a detail from the pic:



The sign at center, at too great an angle for us to read, appears to be some standard roadside sign giving information for motorists to heed. This may yield a clue to location. Does anyone more familiar than I with the signs which motorists in that era might have encountered have an idea what message such a sign would have?
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Old Posted Apr 2, 2021, 3:00 PM
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I checked the CDs and found that in 1929, The Freezer had ice cream shops at 3641 W Pico, 7435 Sunset Boulevard, 3801 W Washington Boulevard, 402 S Western Avenue and 1124 Vine Street. The last address is just north of Santa Monica Boulevard. A year later, they were listed as Freezer Sweet Shops at 751 S Alvarado, 3475 Beverly Boulevard, 1881 Colorado Boulevard, 6244 Pasadena Avenue, 3641 W Pico, 7435 Sunset Boulevard, 3801 W Washington Boulevard, 402 S Western Avenue and 1124 N Vine.

I had a look at some old aerials for the Freezer locations that HossC found in the city directories.


The one that fits with the screengrab from the movie is 751½ South Alvarado Street.


This is how it lines up on a 1928 aerial. The Freezer stand as we see in the screengrab was essentially plonked in the front lawn of 751.


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The "Harry's Battery & Ignition" service in the screengrab is this one.


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Here's 751 somewhat clearer three years later with where the Freezer would have stood dotted red.



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Old Posted Apr 2, 2021, 10:59 PM
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Excellent team work everyone!

We're whittling down the locations one by one.




Now how about the location of The Freezer in the Our Gang short? I imagine it would be somewhere near one of the studios. (I can't remember which studio/production company owned the Our Gang series)

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The Little Rascals buy ice creme at the Samarkand Ice Creme "Bucket" shaped like an ice creme churn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv0oivhUJYs
For those of you who skipped the video (I did at first) you should watch it. (it's only 53 seconds long) And get this; the handle on the ice cream freezer actually TURNS! It's really cool.


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Here are a couple of screengrabs from the video.

#1 As you can see, there is a street lined with trees leading to a one-story courtyard(?) apartment.









#2 Here's a better look at those apartments. They appears to be about a 1/2 block away.




There is a rather large floodlight (above my RED ARROW) that appears to be aimed at the rotating handle.



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Old Posted Apr 3, 2021, 2:55 AM
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Now how about the location of The Freezer in the Our Gang short? I imagine it would be somewhere near one of the studios. (I can't remember which studio/production company owned the Our Gang series)
Hal Roach owned Little Rascals/Our Gang until he sold the unit and all rights to MGM in 1938. The Hal Roach Studios were located at 8822 Washington Blvd in Culver City.
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Hal Roach Studios:

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The studio went bankrupt in 1959 under the management of Hal Roach’s son, and was demolished in 1963.

In relation to the other studios in Culver City:


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Mystery intersection

No date or location for this SPNB Collection photo, although the presence of the Cahuenga cross and the absence of the Hollywood Sign pin the date down to 1923. Are those houses in the foreground still there?


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In response to the question asked about the "Isn't Hollywood Unusual?" Film, William Desmond Taylor was killed in 1922. Graumans Opened in 1927, so the director must be another William Taylor. Similarly, The Crossroads of the World opened in 1936, so it can't be in the film either. I know this because the widow of the man who LA District Attorney Dave Clark murdered took his insurance money and built The Crossroads. I know this because that case was the original story we were going to tell in "Perry Mason" on HBO.
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LAPL/Herald Examiner collection


"A powerful bomb was exploded in the carport of a $200,000 home in Doheny Estates, igniting a fire that destroyed the entire interior of the home, the carport and two automobiles.

The bomb was attached to the floorboard of a late-model Cadillac, and blew a hole in the floor 2 feet square.

The occupants, Mr. and Mrs. John Coughlin, who were subleasing the single-story, 5,000-square-foot stucco house in the Hollywood Hills above Sunset Boulevard, were asleep when the bomb went off about 12:30 a.m. but escaped without injury." 

Photograph dated October 6, 1970.


No address provided for the destroyed home.

Considerable noirishness here....someone had the wherewithal to wire a ferocious explosive to the Caddy....were they targeting John Coughlin, his wife, or possibly both?....a cursory search yielded no additional details.












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In response to the question asked about the "Isn't Hollywood Unusual?" Film, William Desmond Taylor was killed in 1922. Graumans Opened in 1927, so the director must be another William Taylor. Similarly, The Crossroads of the World opened in 1936, so it can't be in the film either. I know this because the widow of the man who LA District Attorney Dave Clark murdered took his insurance money and built The Crossroads. I know this because that case was the original story we were going to tell in "Perry Mason" on HBO.
You have a connection to the HBO Perry Mason show? Great show. Very noirish.
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No date or location for this SPNB Collection photo, although the presence of the Cahuenga cross and the absence of the Hollywood Sign pin the date down to 1923. Are those houses in the foreground still there?


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The furthest house still exists on Iris Circle in Whitley Heights. The two closer houses were demolished between 1948 and 1952 to make way for the Hollywood Freeway.

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Old Posted Apr 6, 2021, 1:22 AM
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Replying to Calnative.
I am one of the producers of "Perry Mason" on HBO. And very proud of it.
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Iris Circle

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The furthest house still exists on Iris Circle in Whitley Heights. The two closer houses were demolished between 1948 and 1952 to make way for the Hollywood Freeway.
Thanks for the suggestion, UphillDonkey, could you mark the surviving house, I'm not sure which one you meant - Thanks.
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I am one of the producers of "Perry Mason" on HBO. And very proud of it.
Proud you should be...great show! Thanks! A favorite of most of the noirishers here no doubt including me.
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"A powerful bomb was exploded in the carport of a $200,000 home in Doheny Estates, igniting a fire that destroyed the entire interior of the home, the carport and two automobiles.

Mr. and Mrs. Coughlin were probably awakened by the noise. What a rude disturbance to their sleep.
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Redwine Bldg. Los Angeles - 1975 - mystery location.



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Any ideas where this might be?






The rear entrance to Musso & Franks in March 1975.



That's probably the chef's car. He's ready for a quick take off.


Does anyone know what the back of Musso & Frank's looks like today? (I hope they at least straightened that sign)




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Old Posted Apr 6, 2021, 6:01 PM
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mystery location #2 (for April 6th)



When I first saw this snapshot I thought 'business man and assistant'. . .but know I'm thinking man and wife.



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Boy, that is a lot of litter.




Here's a closer look at the buildings in the distance. (note the GIANT ANT on the roof of the May Co.)


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