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Old Posted Feb 14, 2021, 8:55 PM
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Mirror News 8/18/59

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General rule--Nobody called "Tiny" weighs less than 300 pounds. Any old pics of "Tiny" Naylor?
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2021, 12:50 AM
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Good sleuthing Snix. The hazards of being a restaurant owner...downing too many delicious patty melts. Naylor's connection with jockey great Arcaro now clear...Naylor bred and owned race horses. Maybe Arcaro rode some of Tiny's mounts? Naylor looks a bit like the pre-bearded Orson Welles when he made the noir classic "Touch of Evil" in the late '50s.

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Old Posted Feb 15, 2021, 1:00 AM
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Thanks for your excellent post and research, Snix.
I didn't realize Eddie Arcaro was a business associate of 'Tiny' Naylor.





But what about Fats Domino and Minnesota Fats?.........(I'm kidding)




CaliNative, I've been looking but as of yet, no dice. ...I guess it would help if I knew 'Tinys' real first name. (does anyone know?)



No 'Tiny' but. . .


UCLA Archive

. . .here's Eddie Arcaro (middle, top), Johnny Longden (left) and Willie Shoemaker (ight) posing with Jayne Mansfield at the Jockey's Ball in los Angeles, 1957.



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The advantage of being a diminutive jockey...being at chest level with Jayne Mansfield. Shoemaker on the right resembled a "mini me" version of Johnny Carson. Arcaro to the top left of Jayne must be standing on a stool. No jockey is that tall.

Some nicknames (maybe most) are based on reality. Generally people called "Slick", or "Tex", or "Swifty" or "Shorty" are that. But it has been my experience that most "Tiny's" I have met are anything but. By the way, never get in a poker or pool game with a "Tex" or a "Slick" or a "Fast". You will lose.

Jayne was supposed to be quite smart, anything but a "dumb blonde" (Jayne started off as a brunette). But I have also met many smart blondes in my life, and many beautiful women are also smart. Austrian-American film beauty Hedy Lamarr invented radio "frequency hopping" during WW2...google it. Hair color or beauty or race or sex are unrelated to intelligence. Poor Jayne died young in a terrible car wreck in the mid '60s

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Old Posted Feb 15, 2021, 3:57 AM
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My favorite Hedy Lamarr quote:

"Any girl can look glamorous. All you have to do is stand still and look stupid."

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Old Posted Feb 15, 2021, 3:21 PM
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That's Hedly.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2021, 9:17 PM
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My favorite Hedy Lamarr quote:

"Any girl can look glamorous. All you have to do is stand still and look stupid."

Cheers,

Earl
Indeed. The two most erotic films from the early pre-code era of film in my opinion are Hedy's nude swim in "Ecstasy" (*) and Maureen O'Sullivan's nude swim in one of the early "Tarzan" films ("Tarzan and His Mate"?).

(*Ecstasy may have been made in Austria after the code was instituted in the U.S., so I believe it's release in the U.S. was banned. Correct me if I'm wrong)

Are there any other good erotic films from the pre-code era that I have missed? Any with Barbara Stanwyck that show significant skin? I like the early sweeter Barbara over the later harder cynical version, but I do of course love noir classic "Double Indemnity", with great performances by Stanwyck, MacMurray and Edward G. Robinson. MacMurray was also great as the villainous boss in Wilder's later film "the Apartment". The antithesis of the My Three Sons dad. Barb had one of the longest careers in HoWo, from the 1920s to the 1980s ("the Thornbirds").

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Old Posted Feb 15, 2021, 9:40 PM
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My favorite Hedy Lamarr quote:

"Any girl can look glamorous. All you have to do is stand still and look stupid."

Cheers,

Earl
Lamarr died in January 2000 at 85, but even as her end drew near, she was still inventing things: a fluorescent dog collar, modifications for the supersonic Concorde airliner, and a new kind of stoplight. After her death, her son, Anthony Loder, said that she would be pleased with the legacy of her “frequency hopping” concept: “She would love to be remembered as someone who contributed to the well-being of humankind.”
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2021, 9:55 PM
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An original negative of the Minnewaska was just listed on eBay.


This is an original vintage negative by Chinese-American photographer Doris Nieh. From her personal archive. The photographer's note on the sleeve:
"Los Angeles, March 1962".



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A bit more on Doris.


clinteastwoodarchive

Nieh was born on September 10th, 1936 (I'm not sure where) and died on December 25th, 2002 at the age of 66. She had been residing in Los Angeles County, California.




We've only seen one other photograph by Doris Nieh....A parking lot. HERE


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Old Posted Feb 15, 2021, 10:13 PM
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Lamarr died in January 2000 at 85, but even as her end drew near, she was still inventing things: a fluorescent dog collar, modifications for the supersonic Concorde airliner, and a new kind of stoplight. After her death, her son, Anthony Loder, said that she would be pleased with the legacy of her “frequency hopping” concept: “She would love to be remembered as someone who contributed to the well-being of humankind.”
The documentary "Bombshell: The Hedy Lamarr Story" by Alexandra Dean is available on Netflix DVD and I recommend it highly.

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Old Posted Feb 16, 2021, 6:09 PM
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There was a group of fairly mediocre slides of Chinatown (1959) on eBay several week ago. But stuck in the middle of the group there were three more interesting slides of a separated location(s).
I believe the eBay seller thought all the slides were all of Chinatown.


The first two are of. .umm. .what I believe to be. . the alley-like court area downtown but I can't think of the name of it.

A European style flower shop and, what appears to be, a small cozy bar on the right.


eBay







The 2nd slide is the one that gave the location away.


eBay

I wonder what it says above the door directly under the bridge. That one shop might be a bicycle shop(?) perhaps










This next one is a mystery.






The wall is vaguely oriental so perhaps this is Chinatown. but I don't remember an Al Fresco dining area with modern looking whicker chairs.





Just for fun let's take a closer look at that little rendevouz spot.


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If anyone wants to see the three Chintown slides I'll post them as well.
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Old Posted Feb 16, 2021, 10:11 PM
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I would like to!



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.I wonder what it says above the door directly under the bridge.
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Also, it's too bad he put the watermark (the "L" of the word slide) over the blade sign. It looks like that is eminently readable.


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An original negative of the Minnewaska was just listed on eBay.
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Dated 1962 and the sign on the building says "Furnished Apartments Newly Decorated." Wasn't it apparent at that time this building was going to be eliminated? The fire was in August, 1964. Would the building have remained but for the fire?
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[SIZE="1"][COLOR="PaleTurquoise"].This next one is a mystery.






The wall is vaguely oriental so perhaps this is Chinatown. but I don't remember an Al Fresco dining area with modern looking whicker chairs.




If anyone wants to see the three Chintown slides I'll post them as well.
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I found this in my LAPL dump but I can't find the context

Found it

https://tessa.lapl.org/cdm/singleite...id/41791/rec/1

Chinese tea garden offers sightseers relaxation
Photograph caption dated July 5, 1962 reads, "Guests enjoy the peaceful atmosphere of the Hong Kong tea garden."; This photograph series includes images #00075808-#00075811.

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Old Posted Feb 17, 2021, 2:33 AM
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There was a group of fairly mediocre slides of Chinatown (1959) on eBay several week ago. But stuck in the middle of the group there were three more interesting slides of a separated location(s).
I believe the eBay seller thought all the slides were all of Chinatown.


The first two are of. .umm. .what I believe to be. . the alley-like court area downtown but I can't think of the name of it.

A European style flower shop and, what appears to be, a small cozy bar on the right.





The 2nd slide is the one that gave the location away.


eBay


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That appears to be "St. Vincent Court," in downtown LA. https://www.google.com/maps/place/St....2535307?hl=en



https://totally-la.com/wp-content/up...food-court.jpg





http://www.movie-locations.com/movie...ents-Court.jpg





https://www.hmdb.org/Photos4/437/Photo437955.jpg

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Old Posted Feb 17, 2021, 7:27 AM
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Lamarr died in January 2000 at 85, but even as her end drew near, she was still inventing things: a fluorescent dog collar, modifications for the supersonic Concorde airliner, and a new kind of stoplight. After her death, her son, Anthony Loder, said that she would be pleased with the legacy of her “frequency hopping” concept: “She would love to be remembered as someone who contributed to the well-being of humankind.”
When Hedy was romantically linked to Howard Hughes, the eccentric billionaire encouraged her inventions, especially in aircraft streamlining. Hughes told his design staff to listen to Hedy. She thought correctly that boxy aircraft could be faster if designed like streamlined fish, marine mammals and birds. Hughes may have passed along the suggestion to Lockheed. The revolutionary Lockheed Constellation may have been the result. Hughes owned TWA bought lots of Constellations. As you said, decades later the Concorde adopted the Constellation-like dolphin shaped arched fuselage and dipped nose.

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Old Posted Feb 17, 2021, 5:45 PM
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I would like to!
Here they are, MP.

Chinatown 1959


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Donald Duck








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Photograph caption dated July 5, 1962 reads, "Guests enjoy the peaceful atmosphere of the Hong Kong tea garden."

Mystery solved! Thanks westcork







I don't recall seeing these bubble signs before....I wonder how long they lasted.


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They remind me of something you might find at the (now defunct) Japanese Deer Park in Buena Park.





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Here they are, MP.

Chinatown 1959
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Thank you! Much appreciated.
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2021, 7:55 PM
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Although battered and covered in dirt the bubble sign is still in place. ... As hard as it is to believe I was initially looking in the wrong place.


Here's a pic. from 2016.


laist



And from the googleman's perspective.




The oblong lightbulb makes me think one of the bubbles is missing entirely. . . .hmmm. . .or judging by the octogonal fixture it might have been a chinese lantern.*


* I just looked at the 2016 photo again and it was a lantern. (and a short distance away from the bubble sign)




Postscript:

Actually, there are two sparate bubble signs. One along Hill Street and the other closer to the pagoda tower.




google earth






Looking out to N. Hill Street.


google man view


Have we discussed that empty lot next to the bubble signs?..I checked old street views and it's been vacant sice the earliest days of the googlemobile.


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I found a few more from LAPL. This is on Gin Ling Way. Google Street View shows the circular frame is still there. I find it odd that I don't remember these globes.



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Old Posted Feb 17, 2021, 9:24 PM
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Wait, there's more!

So judging by the location of the bubble sign in westcork's photograph. (below)

July 5, 1962






The al fresco dining area was located in the open-air rectangular area you see below. ...Today, it appears to be, a shitty looking flea market. . .









. . .located behind these high walls.


googleman






Let's take one last look at the 1959 slide for comparison.


eBay

Such a shame.





I'm finished beating this horse.
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Wait, there's more!

So judging by the location of the bubble sign in westcork's photograph. (below)

July 5, 1962

The al fresco dining area was located in the open-air rectangular area you see below. ...Today, it appears to be, a shitty looking flea market. . .

. . .located behind these high walls.


Let's take one last look at the 1959 slide for comparison.


Such a shame.

I'm finished beating this horse.
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The beatings will continue until moral improves!
Chinatown a week and a half ago...
You can see the sign for the restaurant/tea area on the right:

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And further to the east:
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