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Old Posted Apr 15, 2021, 6:42 PM
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If you build an NHL rink with public money in Chestermere with 12000 parking stalls with little to no pre/post spend and limited development uplift in the area tax-wise, that's a poor use of money.
You leave Ottawa out of this!!!





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I argue that hockey is engraved in our culture, one of only a few things that unites our country, from coast to coast to coast.

I am a fan of the game and fan of the Flames and NHL, mainly for reasons I stated above. To lose the NHL would be a loss to what partly defines us Canadian.

This stadium will be used for many other events, with the Calgary Stampede being another large stakeholder in this project, which truly showcases Calgary as a first-class city to NA.

All of this is my opinion, and I would consider it to be a big loss.
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Except when other sports are played there, like lacrosse, its not a hockey rink... or when other major events come to the city, like the Brier, or World curling, or music awards. And except when concerts come, or during the Stampede, then its an entertainment venue. Or other rodeo events.

As you can probably see that, no, it very much will not be considered just a hockey rink. There are many, many other stakeholders that this project would benefit, not just the main stakeholder.
All of this. Couldn't possibly agree more. As a tax paying Albertan and Calgarian, this project has my full support, however far it needs to go. Also, Kenney fuckface, introduce a PST and raise taxes
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2021, 6:45 PM
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From the Regina forum section, highly preliminary render of a planned arena to replace the 6,484-seat Brandt Centre, located close to Mosaic Stadium. Past news articles indicate that Pats' ownership wants to pursue a larger arena so it can attract more major events that the current arena cannot accommodate, as well as delivering an "NHL experience".



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There was a bit of discussion about this arena on the Rod Pedersen Show today (it's out of Regina for those who aren't familiar). Pedersen didn't come right out and say it, but he implied that one of the project proponents told him that they're aiming pretty high here. Apparently the minimum capacity for a NLL team is in the 14,000ish range and they'd be looking to meet that standard.

Take it with a grain of salt if you want, but Regina is looking at a pretty big upgrade from the Brandt Centre.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2021, 7:16 PM
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You leave Ottawa out of this!!!


You picked up what I was putting down
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2021, 4:15 PM
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It actually looks like a large car dealership.
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2021, 4:48 PM
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That second photo of the side is not great, but from head on it is awesome. In terms of purpose-built junior rinks (i.e. excluding arenas shared with NHL/NBA teams) this is pretty much as good as it's going to get in terms of design.
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It actually looks like a large car dealership.
That side faces a train track, the RapiBus (BRT) and an 4 to 8 lane suburban boulevard, so I'm not too concerned about that particular angle.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ga...!4d-75.7012723

The better side faces an urban plaza in front of a Federal office building, within the suburban town centre area.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ga...!4d-75.7012723
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In terms of purpose-built junior rinks (i.e. excluding arenas shared with NHL/NBA teams) this is pretty much as good as it's going to get in terms of design.
Are we sure about this?

Avenir Centre (Moncton)

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Budweiser Gardens (London)

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Are we sure about this?
I'd say so. I would say those two that you posted may be comparable in terms of quality, but not necessarily better.

Of course, I realize that I'm probably more fond of that glass box design than most people. It reminds me a bit of another junior rink, the Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Portland. The Centre Slush Puppie is obviously a lot smaller, but some of the design cues are similar.

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Budweiser Gardens (London)
John Labatt Centre was such a classy name.
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John Labatt Centre was such a classy name.
Totally agree.
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That second photo of the side is not great, but from head on it is awesome. In terms of purpose-built junior rinks (i.e. excluding arenas shared with NHL/NBA teams) this is pretty much as good as it's going to get in terms of design.
Maybe not "best in class" but definitely pretty good looking. I actually biked right by where those pictures were taken earlier today.
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That second photo of the side is not great, but from head on it is awesome. In terms of purpose-built junior rinks (i.e. excluding arenas shared with NHL/NBA teams) this is pretty much as good as it's going to get in terms of design.
I don't mind how it looks just that it doesn't look like an arena.
I do like that glass.
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All that glass looks good, but other than that, it's just a grey rectangle. Don't know how much more it would have cost to give it some curves or unique angles. I prefer the other two arenas for having some substance other than grey panels and glass.

Kind of reminds me of the YUM Center in Louisville when I visited there 1.5 years ago. Of course, that's more of a major arena and it has glass on three sides.


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I'm actually preferable to the other side of Budweiser Gardens, with the replicated streetscape, below.

I also preferred the old name and still sometimes say JLC, but I'm not terribly bothered by the newer name. Many people here mistakenly thought the city named the arena John Labatt Centre, and then sold the naming rights later, when in fact it was Labatt's who named it JLC as their original naming rights deal. I think it's up for renewal in the next year. Also, was interesting back then that the internet sleuths found the domain registration for rogerscentre.com and immediately assumed this was for the London arena. Interesting that that happened a few years before the Skydome actually changed it's name.

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Kind of reminds me of the YUM Center in Louisville when I visited there 1.5 years ago. Of course, that's more of a major arena and it has glass on three sides.
There is a bit of a resemblance with KFC Yum! for sure. But that said, I think less can be more. I would give credit to the architects of the Gatineau rink for taking a restrained approach when going for the gaudy 'look at me' gimmicks would have been pretty tempting with a building like that.
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Saskatoon City Council is continuing down a path towards a new arena and convention centre within a new Downtown entertainment district. Motions were tabled today for City admin to begin preparing a detailed funding plan. This follows previous direction to begin the site selection process, which is currently underway.

Council committee digs into report on funding options for downtown arena

The City hasn't yet released a shortlist of viable site options, nor a preferred option, saying that negotiations with landowners are continuing. A local architect stirred up conversation on the topic a year ago by releasing a map with his own speculation on possible sites.:



Saskatoon architect sparks discussion with ideas for where new arena should go
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I'd say so. I would say those two that you posted may be comparable in terms of quality, but not necessarily better.

Of course, I realize that I'm probably more fond of that glass box design than most people. It reminds me a bit of another junior rink, the Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Portland. The Centre Slush Puppie is obviously a lot smaller, but some of the design cues are similar.

I honestly really like this building you posted. Reminds me in a way of the old wpg airport. But the views from the inside concourse must be amazing.
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Saskatoon City Council is continuing down a path towards a new arena and convention centre within a new Downtown entertainment district. Motions were tabled today for City admin to begin preparing a detailed funding plan. This follows previous direction to begin the site selection process, which is currently underway.

Council committee digs into report on funding options for downtown arena

The City hasn't yet released a shortlist of viable site options, nor a preferred option, saying that negotiations with landowners are continuing. A local architect stirred up conversation on the topic a year ago by releasing a map with his own speculation on possible sites.:



Saskatoon architect sparks discussion with ideas for where new arena should go
1 or 2 look prime.
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2 or 4 for me

1 should be left for residential/cultural and 3 does not provide enough opportunity in my opinion.
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