noirish Los Angeles

[HossC]

The problems at Photobucket seem to continue, but I managed to get these images uploaded.

Today, Julius Shulman takes us to Malibu. This is "Job 5813: Segel House (Malibu, Calif.), 1980". I've stuck with the color images, but still had to leave some out.



There's nine layers of wood in the sweeping beam.



Wood continues to feature at the side.



By comparison, the rear is fairly plain.



The interior includes some of the boulders from outside.



One of the circular structures houses the stairs. An omitted image gives a closer look.



The kitchen also gets an ocean view.



One of the bedrooms comes with a balcony.



I'll finish with this shot of light from the unusual roof slits playing off the curved walls.



All from Getty Research Institute

In case you didn't know, this is a John Lautner design, and still stands at 22426 Pacific Coast Highway, Malibu. The house belonged to Courteney Cox and David Arquette until 2006, when it was bought by Jamie McCourt, former CEO and co-owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers. McCourt lived in the house for five years before collaborating with architect Michael Kovac to renovate it and add an indoor pool. Because I've posted nine Shulman photos, and because the exterior hasn't changed much, I'm not posting a "now" picture. If you're interested, you can see a whole slideshow of recent images in an article by Architectural Digest.

[Martin Pal]

We've covered Sardi's on Hollywood Blvd. many times, but I don't think
this matchbook has been seen previously:

Matchbook Project

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

We've covered Sardi's on Hollywood Blvd. many times, but I don't think
this matchbook has been seen previously:

Matchbook Project

I'm glad you posted the matchbook Martin Pal.

Different sources say Sardi's became Zardi's in the 1950s.

Zardi's (with a Z) has been mentioned only once before on NLA, 6 years ago by gsjansen.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3769

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Here's some ephemera.


https://martinturnbull.com






http://starsofjazz.blogspot.com/2012...ow-1-stan.html







You can LISTEN to the radio program All Star Parade Bands with Stan Kenton from Zardi's Jazzland, recorded between February 3-19, 1956.

http://allthingskenton.com/table_of_...dex.php%20.php

Broadcast on June 4, 1956.

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[ethereal_reality]

https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2009/0...tant-band-boy/

"Stan Kenton with assistant band boy" [date unknown]

I believe that is Sunset Plaza in the background.

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[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

Are you referring to the one that got moved? Herkimer Arms?

http://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/edifice-edits/

http://brighamyen.com/2009/10/29/upd...dena/#more-444

I don't know that campus at all.

P.S. There's some other historic structures on the SE corner of Ford Place and Los Robles, but I don't know anything about them. Still searching

It wasn't Herkimer Arms t2, but it's very interesting as well. I can't believe they cut it (the Herkimer) in two!!
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I just found a plan for the J. Herbert Hall Apartment building.



You can see all the plans HERE:
http://dpg.lib.berkeley.edu/webdb/gg...rch?siteid=171

"In addition to a spacious home, the Halls owned an apartment building on what is now the Fuller Theological Seminary campus.
They commissioned the firm Greene & Greene to make some alterations in 1916."

I believe the building is at 451 or 453 or 455 Ford Place.

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[austlar1]

Originally Posted by HossC

The problems at Photobucket seem to continue, but I managed to get these images uploaded.

Today, Julius Shulman takes us to Malibu. This is "Job 5813: Segel House (Malibu, Calif.), 1980". I've stuck with the color images, but still had to leave some out.



There's nine layers of wood in the sweeping beam.



Wood continues to feature at the side.



By comparison, the rear is fairly plain.



The interior includes some of the boulders from outside.



One of the circular structures houses the stairs. An omitted image gives a closer look.



The kitchen also gets an ocean view.



One of the bedrooms comes with a balcony.



I'll finish with this shot of light from the unusual roof slits playing off the curved walls.



All from Getty Research Institute

In case you didn't know, this is a John Lautner design, and still stands at 22426 Pacific Coast Highway, Malibu. The house belonged to Courteney Cox and David Arquette until 2006, when it was bought by Jamie McCourt, former CEO and co-owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers. McCourt lived in the house for five years before collaborating with architect Michael Kovac to renovate it and add an indoor pool. Because I've posted nine Shulman photos, and because the exterior hasn't changed much, I'm not posting a "now" picture. If you're interested, you can see a whole slideshow of recent images in an article by Architectural Digest.

This place is a piece of pure Malibu paradise. The scale is perfect. It is a warm and inviting home. I hate to think that the vulgar Mr. McCourt got his hands on it and "improved" it. Somethings just need to be left alone.

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...&postcount=586
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An update on Arthur and Nina Zwebell's "Charlie Chaplin" bungalow court, 1328 N Formosa, which has been covered extensively on the thread. LA Curbed reports that the new owners are going to restore the unlisted property, which is good news. It's apparently the oldest extant Zwebell complex (the others are listed here). Other properties nearby are slated for demolition to make way for new development. It was built, so it is reported, to house cast and crew for productions at Chaplin's nearby studio:

google maps

There's been some discussion for years about whether or not this was actually a Chaplin property. LA Curbed is having none of that though. They also quote Wehoville saying that this was one of three complexes Chaplin built. The others are Normandie Towers (a block from The Lot), 7219 Hampton Ave. and The Charlie Hotel (the hotel claims Ruth Gordon's family built it and Chaplin just stayed here), 819 N. Sweetzer Ave (charming pix & histories of each complex here).

Whoever put them up, I'm glad they're still with us.




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[Earl Boebert]

[From the Architectural Digest Article]

At least somebody thought to protect that laminated wood beam with copper flashing. I looked at the original picture and thought "uh-oh."

Cheers,

Earl

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Thanks. Clear styling similarity (vertical grille slats and fender-mounted signals). Condition made it appear (to me) that hood was canted forward, ah la Nash, et.al. Note hole at bottom of grille to access crank from potential manual starting.


You obviously got the campus zero'd in.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...per_deluxe.png


And, of course, the cars pictured could have been produced by Ford, in Long Beach.http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...ach/photos.php

http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011899pr.jpg






http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011821pr.jpg



http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011846pr.jpg




http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011863pr.jpg




http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011864pr.jpg




http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011879pr.jpg




http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011894pr.jpg



http://fordmotorhistory.com/factorie...s/011903pr.jpg

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All of the car makers used to have huge assembly plants in Los Angeles County but they're all closed now. The area also used to have several steel mills and tire plants....they're also gone.

The Los Angeles area is not business friendly. The demise of those factories caused the loss of 750,000+ jobs plus all of the small factories that serviced and supplied parts for those industries.

I guess noir writers were correct. What was once a glamorous and thriving city is now an authentic wasteland.

"Alright Mr. DeMille...I'm Ready for My Close-Up".


ParamountPictures

[HossC]

Originally Posted by austlar1

This place is a piece of pure Malibu paradise. The scale is perfect. It is a warm and inviting home. I hate to think that the vulgar Mr. McCourt got his hands on it and "improved" it. Somethings just need to be left alone.

Apart from the pool, I think most of the work was renovation. From the Architectural Digest article:

To carve out sufficient space for the [pool], Kovac and McCourt decided to remove an awkward two-story bedroom addition that had been built at the front of the house sometime in the ’90s. The new concrete pool is sympathetic to the original architecture, to the point of being largely indistinguishable—its vaulted timber ceiling mirrors that of the adjacent living room, and the panel of glass that separates the two spaces echoes the curtain-wall details of the dwelling’s oceanside façade.

BTW. Jamie McCourt is female.

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

ebay


If it's for 'Mad Wednesday' why is there a sign for Faith Domergue? (beneath her name I believe it says "the discovery of Howard Hughes")

Originally Posted by Blaster

Howard Hughes produced Preston Sturges' "Sin of Harold Diddlebock" but pulled it shortly after release in 1947. Hughes re-shot and re-edited the film and released it again as "Mad Wednesday" in 1950.

Just a thought. Not only the Lloyd film, but the Faith Domergue film Vendetta had production problems, beginning with filming in 1946 and seems to have been interfered with a lot by Howard Hughes, until it was finally released in December of 1950. Perhaps this and the Lloyd film were released by RKO as a double feature.

In any case, since there's a Christmas tree in the above photo and speaking of Domergue and Lloyd...

Here's a photo of Faith Domergue. (How would you pronounce her name? A hard "g" like in catalogue such as Doe-mare-geh...or Domer-goo?)



And Harold Lloyd, at some point, spent weeks each year decorating several Christmas trees fashioned together and when he discovered fireproofing in the 1960's, preserved one of these creations and then left it up year 'round.







With his grandaughter, Suzanne.


Photos: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/carbonated/tags/tree/

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

All of the car makers used to have huge assembly plants in Los Angeles County but they're all closed now. The area also used to have several steel mills and tire plants....they're also gone.

The Los Angeles area is not business friendly. The demise of those factories caused the loss of 750,000+ jobs plus all of the small factories that serviced and supplied parts for those industries.

I guess noir writers were correct. What was once a glamorous and thriving city is now an authentic wasteland.
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I don't think all those things I bolded are glamorous. Esecially oil wells, which you left out.

[HossC]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Here's a photo of Faith Domergue. (How would you pronounce her name? A hard "g" like in catalogue such as Doe-mare-geh...or Domer-goo?)

Faith Domergue's Wikipedia page gives the pronunciation as /doʊmɜːrɡ/ - 'd' in 'dye', 'o' in 'code', 'm' in 'my', 'ur' in 'fur' and 'g' in 'guy'. Put that together and it makes 'domurg'.

[Martin Pal]

Thanks, HossC, that's how I'd pronounce it, but somewhere I heard it pronounced differently once, which is why I asked.
I didn't know the wiki page would've had a pronunciation guide!

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I love Cobb Salads CBD.

"The Cobb Salad came about in the 1930s at the Hollywood Brown Derby restaurant, where it became a signature dish.
It is named for the restaurant's owner, Robert Howard Cobb. Stories vary whether the salad was invented by Cobb or by his chef, Paul J. Posti.
The legend is that Cobb had not eaten until near midnight, and so he mixed together leftovers he found in the kitchen, along with some bacon cooked by the line cook,
and tossed it with their French dressing." -wiki

I wasn't aware of the French dressing part. (and I wonder when they started lining up the ingredients?)
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Since I have the Brown Derby Book, by Sally Wright Cobb, here, I thought I would post the "official story" they have in the book:

Bob worked very long days when he was managing the first Brown Derby and sometimes grew weary of the familiar items on the limited menu. Late one night he prepared himself a salad of chopped leftover chicken and some other ingredients. His pals Jack Warner, Sid Grauman, Wilson Mizner, and Gene Fowler dropped by after a preview as Bob was enjoying his supper; Mizner asked what he was eating. The foursome joined Bob and after that began ordering the "Cobb Salad." With the addition of a few ingredients, that first chopped salad evolved into the Derby's famous signature dish, though it did not appear as an official menu item until the opening of the Hollywood Brown Derby in 1929. Today, versions of the Cobb Salad are served all over the world--though there are diners and even restauranteurs who don't know how it got its name or its start--but they never have equaled the original. --The Brown Derby Restaurant by Sally Wright Cobb and Mark Williams, page 16.

The book then has the recipe for the Cobb Salad and how it's to be prepared and served. It then has the recipe for Cobb's Old Fashioned French Dressing. The salad recipe says to serve the salad with Cobb's Pumpernickel Cheese Toast, the recipe of which is also included.

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I ate in the Hollywood Brown Derby one time, but did not have the Cobb salad there. The best one I ever had, though, was last December at Bottega Louie, 700 South Grand Avenue, Downtown Los Angeles:


Yelp

In fact, I'd like one now!

[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

All of the car makers used to have huge assembly plants in Los Angeles County but they're all closed now. The area also used to have several steel mills and tire plants....they're also gone.

The Los Angeles area is not business friendly. The demise of those factories caused the loss of 750,000+ jobs plus all of the small factories that serviced and supplied parts for those industries.

I guess noir writers were correct. What was once a glamorous and thriving city is now an authentic wasteland.

"Alright Mr. DeMille...I'm Ready for My Close-Up".

Norma couldn't deal with the present--to hell with her. Betty was LA's future....





Wasteland? When was the last time you were in L.A.? I'm out there every 4 months or so and every time I've been in the last few years I see nothing but construction, especially downtown, public transport is amazing and revitalizing neighborhoods. The Arts District is exploding and interesting with the continuing rejuvenation of a forgotten, languishing part of town. (Ford wasn't ever coming back to 7th & Santa fe, or Heinz 57 etc etc.) Neighborhoods like Echo Park and West Adams are thriving, with real estate booming... as for manufacturing, obviously the car & tire companies have figured out how to become efficient without having to maintain so many plants across the country. NYC is similarly in great shape today, unlike the '70s, when I moved here--it was a nearly bankrupt mess then, wonderful, exciting, but a mess--LA then was awful too, much closer than now to being a wasteland even with the branch plants still running. Nowhere near the cosmopolitan city it is today--definitely glamorous again. All I can say is, thank God for the young and their ambition--like Betty Schaefer. They're the ones saving the city, including a lot of the built environment we love here at NLA. Old people aren't buying up and fixing up the housing stock of West Adams or so many other neighborhoods. The kids are.

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

I don't think all those things I bolded are glamorous. Esecially oil wells, which you left out.

I've lived in LA all my life ...except for when I was in the military.

My bottom line for one thing that is glamorous.......a job.

LA is now a sad ''Sanctuary City" with a record 47,000* homeless people living on the streets.

*http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...127-story.html

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I just found a plan for the J. Herbert Hall Apartment building.



You can see all the plans HERE:
http://dpg.lib.berkeley.edu/webdb/gg...rch?siteid=171

"In addition to a spacious home, the Halls owned an apartment building on what is now the Fuller Theological Seminary campus.
They commissioned the firm Greene & Greene to make some alterations in 1916."

I believe the building is at 451 or 453 or 455 Ford Place.

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OK, now I understand why I was so confused by this. Apparently the Greene and Greene alterations were never built.

It is hard to match the building up with the same views pictured in the Greene and Greene drawings as one can only see the south and west elevations of the building on gsv. The north and east sides are only visible from above on google maps:

South elevation:


West elevation (compare with Greene & Greene drawing):


From the north (compare with e_r's quoted drawing above):


From the east (compare here)




The National Register of Historic Places draft registration form (Section 7, pages 12-13) states:

"Other than the addition of a wooden fire escape with a second story landing, the exterior retains its original appearance"







Other info re the Halls








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[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

I've lived in LA all my life ...except for when I was in the military.

My bottom line for one thing that is glamorous.......a job.

LA is now a sad ''Sanctuary City" with a record 47,000* homeless people living on the streets.

*http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...127-story.html

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert

[From the Architectural Digest Article]

At least somebody thought to protect that laminated wood beam with copper flashing. I looked at the original picture and thought "uh-oh."

Cheers,

Earl

But what about the ends of the glulam beams? Seems like a bad idea to leave them exposed.

Originally Posted by HossC

[Blaster]

Originally Posted by HossC

Faith Domergue's Wikipedia page gives the pronunciation as /doʊmɜːrɡ/ - 'd' in 'dye', 'o' in 'code', 'm' in 'my', 'ur' in 'fur' and 'g' in 'guy'. Put that together and it makes 'domurg'.

In THE HATEFUL EIGHT, the character played by Jennifer Jason Leigh is named " Daisy Domergue" -- and if we know nothing else, we know that Quentin Tarantino is constantly referencing old films, fim actors, characters, etc.

In that film, Daisy's last name is pronounced "Dom - er- goo," but I have no idea if that's accurate of if Quentin (not exactly a college graduate) just thought that was the way to go.