Public Disorder & the Decline of Vancouver's Livability

[Vin]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

What would you like? You got your "tough on crime" Mayor, why isn't it working?!?!?!

Paging WarrenC12
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/stab...edle-vancouver
Vancouver security guard stabbed with hypodermic needle in random attack
I am sure you are continuing to "sympathize" with all these criminals.

Anyone who expects a new Mayoral council taking over for only a couple of months to make 180 degree change must be completely delusional.

FYI, the actual "tough on crime" mayoral candidate hails from the NPA, and he did not win this election.

[spacebjorn]

Originally Posted by Vin

Paging WarrenC12
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/stab...edle-vancouver
Vancouver security guard stabbed with hypodermic needle in random attack
I am sure you are continuing to "sympathize" with all these criminals.

Anyone who expects a new Mayoral council taking over for only a couple of months to make 180 degree change must be completely delusional.

FYI, the actual "tough on crime" mayoral candidate hails from the NPA, and he did not win this election.

Beanbag shotgun? How about a real one to send them on the first class to the resurrections?

[Migrant_Coconut]

Breaking news: anarchy and disorder under the Sim administration!

[Zepfancouver]

Last Saturday night in my neighbourhood.
Vancouver police investigating 4 separate stabbings during 10-hour span https://globalnews.ca/news/9528634/v...ings-10-hours/
"...around 1:30 a.m. Saturday, officers responded to a call that a person had been assaulted south of Davie Village, near Harwood and Burrard streets.
When officers arrived, they found a 36-year-old with multiple stab wounds. Again, a suspect in that incident has not been identified."

Did not capture the assault, I think it happen in the alley way,
there were too many people walking along Burrard and Harwood at that time and I did not notice anyone reacting to a crime or assault.

Police and Ambulance responding to a stabbing.
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[Vin]

The gong show continues.....

Vancouver Police investigate serious assault near SRO on the Downtown Eastside
https://globalnews.ca/news/9538468/v...rious-assault/
VPD cruisers converged near the Pennsylvania Hotel and SRO building Wednesday night.
While not providing many details, police have confirmed to Global News they are investigating a serious assault in the area of Carrall and Hastings Streets.

Downtown Eastside stabbing leaves man with serious injuries
https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/l...police-6673978
Vancouver police say they responded to a call at Hastings and Carroll streets around 6 p.m., where a man was suffering from multiple stab wounds. Officers performed first aid until paramedics arrived and the victim is expected to survive.

[SpongeG]

there was another tent fire down there. A neighbor's third tent was destroyed, his first tent was removed, his second tent collapsed under snow and this third tent was destroyed by the fire, the tent that caught fire had 2 propane tanks inside.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9548756/dtes-fire-impacts/

In the report I heard on the radio, they interviewed someone who works down there saying most of the tent people refuse proper living accoms when offered them as they choose to stay on the street and they really can't force them off the street.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

there was another tent fire down there. A neighbor's third tent was destroyed, his first tent was removed, his second tent collapsed under snow and this third tent was destroyed by the fire, the tent that caught fire had 2 propane tanks inside.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9548756/dtes-fire-impacts/

In the report I heard on the radio, they interviewed someone who works down there saying most of the tent people refuse proper living accoms when offered them as they choose to stay on the street and they really can't force them off the street.

Then it is time to change the law. Or change the government. Squatters in public parks should be kicked out no matter where the park is.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Then it is time to change the law. Or change the government. Squatters in public parks should be kicked out no matter where the park is.

You're right, there would have to be a new law. Or, alternatively, if there was enough housing available to house the homeless the existing law would suffice.

[jollyburger]

B.C. government vows to tackle issue of repeat offenders

The B.C. government announced Tuesday that dedicated police-prosecutor-probation officer teams will be formed and focused on repeat violent offenders.


Called the Repeat Violent Offending Intervention Initiative, the program will pair police, dedicated prosecutors and probation officers to focus on improving public safety by coordinating responses to and better outcomes for violent offenders.

The government will be investing $25 million over the next three years to support 21 Crown counsel and 21 other BC Prosecution Service staff to establish and then support the prosecution teams, support four full-time BC Corrections officers to develop, coordinate and evaluate the program, support nine correctional supervisors, nine probation officer based in correctional centres and 12 dedicated probation officers based in community corrections offices.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9550963/b...fenders-teams/

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Changing City

You're right, there would have to be a new law. Or, alternatively, if there was enough housing available to house the homeless the existing law would suffice.

There should be enough shelters, but they need to be improved. Then after that, let those who camp outside make the choice: sit in a jail cell or go to a shelter.

Why keep spoiling people with free nice housing in good locations when many don't even deserve them? You work for housing, and no one is given the right to free housing in this whole planet. If you don't want to improve yourself but still want something free: go stay in a shelter.

If you keep promising those who choose to be homeless free housing, there will just be more squatting around, because they all have the hope of attaining free housing eventually doing jack-all, and the worsening social problem we are facing today will never ever go away.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

https://globalnews.ca/news/9550963/b...fenders-teams/

I'm pretty sure ABC has been pushing for this. Without this change, many municipalities are handtied and can't seem to make any headway.

[whatnext]

Remember when Fire Chief Fry ordered the DTES tent city removed as it was a fire hazard but nothing was done? Consequences:

Downtown Eastside tent fire leaves building with 'extensive water damage'
By Astrid Agbayani and Raynaldo Suarez
Posted Mar 19, 2023, 9:25PM PDT.Last Updated Mar 20, 2023, 11:43AM PDT.
Vancouver Fire Rescue Services says it was called to a blaze in the Downtown Eastside Sunday evening.

Assistant Fire Chief Jarret Gray says the fire started in two to three tents just outside a concert venue, the Imperial building, on Main Street.

“The fire did not get into the building but activated the sprinklers, caused water and damage happened inside the building. Crews went inside, checked the sprinklers off. Extensive water damage to the inside of the building.”

Crews say they found eight propane tanks around the tents but managed to pull them away from the scene....

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/0...ide-tent-fire/

[MIPS]

Seems like a pretty solid lawsuit if The Imperial wants to have someone else pay for the repairs.

-They aren't allowed to shoo them away
-The VPD was aware of complaints but didn't move them away
-The city wasn't enforcing bylaws (or were disregarding them)
-There was a warning from VanFire on the public record of hazardous conditions (not specifically here but all along the street) but they didn't provide any remedial services.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by MIPS

Seems like a pretty solid lawsuit if The Imperial wants to have someone else pay for the repairs.

-They aren't allowed to shoo them away
-The VPD was aware of complaints but didn't move them away
-The city wasn't enforcing bylaws (or were disregarding them)
-There was a warning from VanFire on the public record of hazardous conditions (not specifically here but all along the street) but they didn't provide any remedial services.

Isn't it getting replaced anyways?

https://www.urbanyvr.com/main-and-cordova/

[Feathered Friend]

I'm surprised that there's been no mention that the Imperial was going to be torn down anyways. It's set to be replaced with an already approved non-market housing building that will include a smaller performance space.

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/305-main-st

[Vin]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Isn't it getting replaced anyways?

https://www.urbanyvr.com/main-and-cordova/

Hence allow hazards to exist in front of it so that it can get replaced even faster?

[whatnext]

A mind-blowing 370 fires in the DTES encampment areas since last July!

After 370 fires in Vancouver’s DTES encampment areas since July, safety concerns remain high
By Amy Judd & Emad Agahi Global News
Posted March 20, 2023

Concerns remain high about the safety of tent encampments on Vancouver’s Downtown Eastside after a fire broke out Sunday night.

But this is just the latest fire in a string of dozens in this area of the city.

Since the City of Vancouver’s fire chief, Karen Fry, issued an order in July that the growing tent city on the 100 block of East Hastings Street be cleared out, she said there have been 370 fires started outdoors in the encampment area.

“Three hundred and seventy, in eight months,” she said....

https://globalnews.ca/news/9565496/v...fety-concerns/

[madog222]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

I'm surprised that there's been no mention that the Imperial was going to be torn down anyways. It's set to be replaced with an already approved non-market housing building that will include a smaller performance space.

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/305-main-st

Edit, nvm didn't read above regarding news coverage of the fire.

[whatnext]

Well, I guess we should be glad he didn't use the hammer on a person.

Man with hammer smashes $30K worth of downtown Vancouver bus shelter glass
By Elizabeth McSheffrey Global News
Posted March 21, 2023

A man with a hammer smashed around 20 glass panes on downtown Vancouver bus shelters early Tuesday morning, causing roughly $30,000 in damage according to Vancouver police.

The spree took place around 1:30 a.m., damaging shelters near Granville and Georgia streets, Sgt. Steve Addison told Global News.

The suspect was detained by witnesses until police arrived and took him into custody.....
https://globalnews.ca/news/9568221/m...es-30k-damage/

[SpongeG]

apparently he had no motive other than to do some destruction. he's out of jail now. 47 year olds should know better right?

Man who smashed Vancouver bus shelters released without bail

By Amy Judd Global News
Posted March 22, 2023

A man who used a hammer to smash around 20 glass panes on downtown Vancouver bus shelters early Tuesday morning, causing roughly $30,000 in damage, has been released from custody.



The 47-year-old man was detained by witnesses until police arrived early Tuesday.

The spree took place around 1:30 a.m., involving shelters near Granville and Georgia streets, according to Vancouver police.

...

https://globalnews.ca/news/9570989/v...lters-release/