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J. Will · #21 Posted **Oct 1, 2012, 5:38 PM**

These buildings would likely block my view of the CN Tower's main observation deck.

Steely Dan · #22 Posted **Oct 1, 2012, 6:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by J. Will

These buildings would likely block my view of the CN Tower's main observation deck.

These buildings would likely be A LOT cooler to look at than the CN Tower's main observation deck.

Gresto · #23 Posted **Oct 1, 2012, 6:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dale

I'll tell Mirvish and Gehry to call if off then.

caltrane74 · #24 Posted **Oct 1, 2012, 10:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ramako

This should help estimate the height:

http://www.blogto.com/arts/2012/10/g...ed_in_toronto/

From the above drawings, I'd guess less than 300 metres, but all this is subject to change, of course. Regardless, I think the towers look fantastic.

This is getting so awesome!

JayPro · #25 Posted **Oct 2, 2012, 2:08 AM**

I have a strong feeling that Mr. Gehry is starting to push his luck with skyscraper aesthetics. The only reason he pulled off what he did in Downtown NYC is that he was constrained by the locals to tone down what he originally had in mind.
It surely seems to me with this design that the Big Apple's Torontonian counterparts are quite willing breathe a good deal less heavily down his proverbial neck.
For these reasons I fear that the optimism that could be on display here will be soon regretted. Gehry run amok is not a good thing, I'm afraid. What I perceive to be the aggresively deconstructuralist tendencies of architects like him and Rem Koolhaas IMO warrant *very* close observation, *especially* with structures in this height range.
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Hed Kandi · #26 Posted **Oct 2, 2012, 2:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dale

I'll tell Mirvish and Gehry to call if off then.

No need. The laws of supply and demand will do that for you.

LeftCoaster · #27 Posted **Oct 2, 2012, 2:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by DrNest

I wonder if this was the big project Leftcoaster was hinting at a few weeks ago?

No that is a different project, which will still be announced some time in the next few months.

I had heard about this project but didn't bother talking about it as I don't have much info on it and I don't think it will go ahead as planned. It's a bit too big and too grand too late in this cycle. It will either go ahead much shorter and cost engineered or it will go ahead more true to its current design near the end of the decade.

WhipperSnapper · #28 Posted **Oct 2, 2012, 2:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by JayPro

I have a strong feeling that Mr. Gehry is starting to push his luck with skyscraper aesthetics. The only reason he pulled off what he did in Downtown NYC is that he was constrained by the locals to tone down what he originally had in mind.
It surely seems to me with this design that the Big Apple's Torontonian counterparts are quite willing breathe a good deal less heavily down his proverbial neck.
For these reasons I fear that the optimism that could be on display here will be soon regretted. Gehry run amok is not a good thing, I'm afraid. What I perceive to be the aggresively deconstructuralist tendencies of architects like him and Rem Koolhaas IMO warrant *very* close observation, *especially* with structures in this height range.
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This project has yet to submit a development application. It will face harsh views from both planners, council and, months of community consultation. That doesn't even address the value engineering from any developer that signs on (if Mirvish can even find a partner or, the more likely scenario, someone willing to take it over). Gehry will likely follow in the same footsteps as so many before him when everything is said and done; run to the airport vowing never to step foot in the city again. It's fun to dream though.

Dale · #29 Posted **Oct 2, 2012, 3:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hed Kandi

No need. The laws of supply and demand will do that for you.

Would these be the same laws that had Toronto's condo market grinding to a halt three years ago, I mean two years ago, I mean last year ?

Hed Kandi · #30 Posted **Oct 2, 2012, 6:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dale

Would these be the same laws that had Toronto's condo market grinding to a halt three years ago, I mean two years ago, I mean last year ?

No, that would be speculation.

Dale · #31 Posted **Oct 2, 2012, 6:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hed Kandi

No, that would be speculation.

Well then, I suppose Mirvish and Gehry have a right to engage in that too.

#32 Posted **Oct 2, 2012, 7:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by DrNest

I wonder if this was the big project Leftcoaster was hinting at a few weeks ago?

Actually it's the project I mentioned a couple months ago in the Toronto Supertall rumour thread

yaletown_fella · #33 Posted **Oct 2, 2012, 10:08 PM**

The towers are too "cool" and "funky" for my liking. Then again, these are only preliminary renderings.

I would have preferred somthing along the lines of Beekman Place in NYC; a cutting edge curtainwall system with traditional setbacks.

Gresto · #34 Posted **Oct 2, 2012, 10:20 PM**

^I agree with you, but I don't find them awful. I could live with them.

NYguy · #35 Posted **Oct 3, 2012, 12:43 AM**

http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670909/...remake-toronto

Frank Gehry, Eyeing His Legacy, Aims To Remake Toronto
Gehry, who grew up in Toronto, and art magnate David Mirvish plan a massive, mixed-use complex, intended to serve as both mens’ legacy.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4581272/