Austin | Hanover Republic Square | 516 Feet | 44 Floors | Complete

[The ATX]

This is a real project now, so it gets its own thread. The height and floor count in the thread title are from the marketing flyer vision, so the numbers will change.

Here's the tower info that AusTxDevelopment first posted about:

Originally Posted by AusTxDevelopment

I didn't see a dedicated thread for this, so I apologize if it has already been posted. CBRE is marketing the 5th & Lavaca site for sale including a concept for a 40-story apartment tower. It's the site that the back of the Plaza Lofts face - the side with no windows. 301-303-305 West 5th Street. Below are some screen shots of the brochure.













Source: http://www.cbre.us/people-and-office...roperty-search

Two Demo permits have been filed to make way for this "mixed use" project.
This one is for 301 W. 5th:

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...pertyrsn=91742

Here's the location on Streetview:




Here's the Demo permit for 303 W. 5th:

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...pertyrsn=91748

Here's the location on Streetview:




Here's 427MM's post about the developer:

Originally Posted by 427MM

Hanover (Ashton, Northshore) has it under contract. Hope they are moving dirt within nine mos--that site is in a sad state today.

[Geckos_Rule]

Doesn't look half bad, and it's reasonably tall. It will add great density to that area.

Not to mention it doesn't mess with the Roosevelt room. I love that bar.

[The ATX]

Originally Posted by Geckos_Rule

Doesn't look half bad, and it's reasonably tall. It will add great density to that area.

Not to mention it doesn't mess with the Roosevelt room. I love that bar.

We don't have an actual rendering yet. That's just a vision from earlier this year.

[jomoarch]

Would be interesting to see if the original proposed 44 story residential building for 300 Colorado just relocated a couple blocks over to this lot. They both have the same corner footprint on a 1/4 city block.

[We vs us]

It's funny -- Roosevelt's isn't part of this tract. If/when this gets developed, Roosevelts will be a single story lot in between two larger buildings.

Ideal for a bar, honestly.

[Jdawgboy]

I really wish whatever tower they build, that they incorporate those entertainment use buildings. Granted, those spaces are currently empty however I think it's important that new developments make room for more than just retail or restaurant space.

[The ATX]

A third Demo permit was filed today. This one is for 305 W. 5th:

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...ertyrsn=670084


Here's the former Rebel Saloon at 305 W. 5th:

[The ATX]

One of the three demo permits to clear the site was approved. It's for the building along the Lavaca St. side of the project.


https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...pertyrsn=91742

[The ATX]

427MM was correct. This is a Hanover development. So we can be sure that it will be all or mostly residential.

[The ATX]

If anyone is interested in the history of the buildings being demolished, there are four HLC backup files with extensive histories of the buildings. The demo is being discussed at Monday's meeting. But there is no hint of what Hanover's tower proposal will be.

http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=302313
http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=302314
http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=302312
http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/doc....cfm?id=302311

[The ATX]

Approval for the Demo of all the buildings passed on consent at this weeks HLC meeting. I was hoping for some discussion that might provide info on the tower. But we'll have to keep waiting. I suspect (hope) something like the 300 Colorado residential proposal is planned for the site.

[The ATX]

The site plan was filed today for "a residential tower with ground floor restaurant space and structured parking with associated improvements." No details yet as usual with a new filing.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...pertyrsn=91742

[The ATX]

Based on the permits, it appears that demo could have started. Has anyone noticed if it started?

The site plan application was rejected, but it's back on track now. In about two weeks the formal site plan filing should be made public which should contain the actual height and floor count.

[clubtokyo]

Wow and right near where the republic will be, our beloved city is really starting to get dense and I love it. Does anyone think Austin might be the densest city in Texas in the future? Where do we rank now?

[Echostatic]

Based on my very quick wikipedia calculations for major texas cities:

1. Dallas - 3,958.5 pop/sq. mi.
2. Houston - 3,857.2 pop/sq. mi.
3. San Antonio - 3,280.2 pop/sq. mi.
4. Austin - 3,191.4 pop/sq. mi.
5. Fort Worth - 2,554.6 pop/sq. mi.
6. El Paso - 2,542.6 pop/sq. mi.

I think we'll end up around 3700 pop/sq. mi., maybe 3850.

[We vs us]

It’s funny that the full site won’t include The Roosevelt. It’ll be a weird little tooth-gap in the middle of that block.

Kind of amazing how quickly this thing is speeding along. Comparatively speaking.

[MichaelB]

Originally Posted by We vs us

It’s funny that the full site won’t include The Roosevelt. It’ll be a weird little tooth-gap in the middle of that block.

Kind of amazing how quickly this thing is speeding along. Comparatively speaking.

Thats; great! I love that there will be contrast and texture...

AND the Roosevelt will stay!

That's wonderful!

[paul78701]

Originally Posted by Echostatic

Based on my very quick wikipedia calculations for major texas cities:

1. Dallas - 3,958.5 pop/sq. mi.
2. Houston - 3,857.2 pop/sq. mi.
3. San Antonio - 3,280.2 pop/sq. mi.
4. Austin - 3,191.4 pop/sq. mi.
5. Fort Worth - 2,554.6 pop/sq. mi.
6. El Paso - 2,542.6 pop/sq. mi.

I think we'll end up around 3700 pop/sq. mi., maybe 3850.

I believe Austin has more residents in it's downtown (around 15k) than any other Texas city. That is way impressive considering our relative size compared to 1-3.

I'm not sure what the numbers for West Campus are these days, but I think it was getting close to 20k around 10 years ago. (I could be mis-remembering.) So I'm guessing West Campus may be close to 25k or so now. Add in the densification going on east of downtown (and whatever the population is there now), and those are some pretty good numbers.

The core of Austin is probably more dense than any part of Texas. It certainly feels more urban than any other part of Texas.

[JoninATX]

It's quite an impressive number.

[drummer]

Originally Posted by paul78701

I believe Austin has more residents in it's downtown (around 15k) than any other Texas city. That is way impressive considering our relative size compared to 1-3.

I'm not sure what the numbers for West Campus are these days, but I think it was getting close to 20k around 10 years ago. (I could be mis-remembering.) So I'm guessing West Campus may be close to 25k or so now. Add in the densification going on east of downtown (and whatever the population is there now), and those are some pretty good numbers.

The core of Austin is probably more dense than any part of Texas. It certainly feels more urban than any other part of Texas.

Since there was a discussion on what is "downtown" and what is called "downtown" by folks from throughout the metro in another thread (city discussions, I think), I think it's relevant to consider the populations of downtown and the neighboring urban or somewhat urban districts also. For instance, I wonder how the downtown + west campus + east 6th (etc) areas could compare to Dallas with downtown, Uptown, Oak Lawn, Little Elm, etc. etc.... Then Houston with the surrounding areas (of which I don't know the names). Just curious. The downtown number is cool to consider, of course, but the urban fabric often goes beyond the CBD proper.


Back on topic: I like this building. I also like the fact that not all of the single story places go because it does provide some diversity. The discussion about losing the warehouse district brick fronts, etc., is certainly a relevant one, so I'm glad to see something left behind here.