CHICAGO | 400 N Lake Shore Drive | 851 FT & 765 FT | 73 & ? FLOORS - Page 27

Kumdogmillionaire · #**521** Posted **Apr 16, 2018, 4:56 AM**

It is actually kind of beautiful in a messed up way how the rest of the downtown area has thrived lately, but this site has remained a graveyard. Amazing juxtaposition that will be gone soon enough (fingers crossed)

BVictor1 · #**522** Posted **Apr 17, 2018, 1:31 AM**

Skidmore (New York)

Or so I just heard...

Tom In Chicago · #**523** Posted **Apr 17, 2018, 1:50 AM**

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Skidmore (New York)

Oh dear. . .

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BraveNewWorld · #**524** Posted **Apr 17, 2018, 6:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by BVictor1

Skidmore (New York)

Or so I just heard...

SOM is designing this? They might be replacing the Sears Tower with another one of their building's as the new tallest.

AMWChicago · #**525** Posted **Apr 17, 2018, 7:16 AM**

Where did you hear this?

Steely Dan · #**526** Posted **Apr 17, 2018, 1:37 PM**

SOM new york?

hmmmm, i was hoping for something more...... exotic.

but it is related, so that was probably a hope in vain.

oh well.

BVictor1 · #**527** Posted **Apr 17, 2018, 1:46 PM**

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Where did you hear this?

My drug dealer...

gebs · #**528** Posted **Apr 17, 2018, 1:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by BVictor1

My drug dealer...

Where "drug" means "insider architecture info"? Because I think we're all addicted.

Skyguy_7 · #**529** Posted **Apr 17, 2018, 2:10 PM**

What are some of SOM New York's projects? Do they differ from traditional SOM? Are they a separate entity from SOM HQ here in Chicago?

HomrQT · #**530** Posted **Apr 17, 2018, 2:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7

What are some of SOM New York's projects? Do they differ from traditional SOM? Are they a separate entity from SOM HQ here in Chicago?

Most of their older projects look very formal and "Chicago-esque". Some of their newer proposals seem to have a little more artistic expression.

rgolch · #**531** Posted **Apr 17, 2018, 6:05 PM**

So, help out the uninformed and uninitiated.....

Why is SOM New York a bummer?

munchymunch · #**532** Posted **Apr 17, 2018, 6:24 PM**

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So, help out the uninformed and uninitiated.....

Why is SOM New York a bummer?

It’s not, but something by SHoP, BIG, Zaha etc. would’ve been nice.

Skyguy_7 · #**533** Posted **Apr 17, 2018, 6:35 PM**

If SOM uses a SHoP-inspired Terra Cotta and Bronze combo, I will be unbummed.

sentinel · #**534** Posted **Apr 17, 2018, 6:46 PM**

Uh, short-term memory loss or lack of knowledge seemingly pervade some of these threads: SOM New York does some really great work, especially on the high-rise side. No idea why folks think their design abilities are lacking, considering they are on the same level as SHoP, Zaha, etc., and frankly, laid the groundwork for smaller, high-concept design firms such as the aforementioned..

https://www.som.com/expertise/services/tall_buildings

Skyguy_7 · #**535** Posted **Apr 17, 2018, 7:57 PM**

^ My question essentially was "Does the SOM NYC office produce different designs than their Chicago HQ". Their website claims the JHC and Sears Tower designs, so it appears that they're one entity.

2PRUROCKS! · #**536** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 1:05 AM**

Maybe someone here can refresh my memory. I seem to recall reading in this thread, perhaps it was a poster with insider info or an article about Related Midwest projects, that RM was having a private design competition for this project with 3 firms and also they had at some point asked David Childs to consult or advise on this project. It would seem they were doing more than seeking his advise but giving him a commission.

Anyhow I think some of the dislike for SOM NY is from how 1WTC and 7WTC turned out. They weren't disasters but disappointments to many people's expectations. A lot of the projects shown on the SOM website are not only from the NY office but include Chicago and San Fran.

Steely Dan · #**537** Posted **Apr 19, 2018, 12:13 AM**

* off topic posts deleted *

If you guys want to discuss the merits of one world trade center, there's a thread somewhere on this forum to do so.

Steely Dan · #**538** Posted **Apr 19, 2018, 3:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by 2PRUROCKS!

Maybe someone here can refresh my memory. I seem to recall reading in this thread, perhaps it was a poster with insider info or an article about Related Midwest projects, that RM was having a private design competition for this project with 3 firms and also they had at some point asked David Childs to consult or advise on this project. It would seem they were doing more than seeking his advise but giving him a commission.

or perhaps whoever told Bvic that SOM new york was the architect for the project simply misunderstood their role in the process?