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Old Posted Aug 30, 2016, 12:31 PM
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But I thought that Camden was being redeveloped by Liberty Property Trust to build a beautiful skyline to compliment Philadelphia in a way that Jersey City compliments Manhattan?
     
     
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But I thought that Camden was being redeveloped by Liberty Property Trust to build a beautiful skyline to compliment Philadelphia in a way that Jersey City compliments Manhattan?
it was common knowledge that none of that was set in stone. Camden has a very small population and limited business community. It's no Jersey city. But at least there is some prospect of progress in the near future- even if it's limited to the waterfront.
     
     
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But I thought that Camden was being redeveloped by Liberty Property Trust to build a beautiful skyline to compliment Philadelphia in a way that Jersey City compliments Manhattan?
No. Two towers were announced that now appear to have been down-sized. Maybe in due time Camden will get some real towers and a beautiful skyline. In the meantime, this is a good stepping stone but still disappointing.
     
     
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We're lucky anything at all is happening in camden, this is all due to major financial support from Trenton
     
     
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It went from 2 sleek glass beauts -> 1 sleek glass beaut + 1 atrocious bunker -> 2 mediocre midrises. Overall average quality is going down, but it's nice the atrocious bunker is fixed as far as I can tell.
The original rendering showed two beautiful tall towers from Penns Landing. This one, the vantage point is the middle of the river. I guess if they tried to show these "towers" from Penns Landing, the buildings would be hardly visible. SMH
     
     
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How funny that the rendering shows a sail ship, with no open sails! Haha!
Camden's official crest is a sailboat with no sail.
     
     
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Obviously disappointing but I disagree they'll still look quite large. Taking these lots out will drastically change the feel of downtown Camden. Not the most urban project but damn, still very exciting times for the city and south Jersey area
     
     
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Obviously disappointing but I disagree they'll still look quite large. Taking these lots out will drastically change the feel of downtown Camden. Not the most urban project but damn, still very exciting times for the city and south Jersey area
By the time they're done downgrading and right sizing it will be a strip mall.
     
     
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By the time they're done downgrading and right sizing it will be a parking lot.
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By the time they're done downgrading and right sizing it will be a strip mall.
Next it is going to be a strip mall, after that they will finally downsize them to four single family houses.
     
     
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I'm super disappointed by this redesign too, but the original renderings did seem pretty extraordinary for this area. Not that I don't think Camden is capable of supporting something spectacular like that eventually, but it probably needs some buildup of developments like the current form of the proposal first. This current incarnation seems more like it could actually get done. Grander designs will come eventually, it's not like there's a scarcity of room for them along the waterfront and downtown in Camden.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2016, 6:39 PM
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Like I said on the last page, site prep will start on Tuesday or shortly thereafter.

Right now Camden needs any development it can get. This project will help push that area towards a critical mass of jobs, retail, and apartments. Once that has been achieved people may start considering Camden as a real alternative to Center City.
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Like I said on the last page, site prep will start on Tuesday or shortly thereafter.

Right now Camden needs any development it can get. This project will help push that area towards a critical mass of jobs, retail, and apartments. Once that has been achieved people may start considering Camden as a real alternative to Center City.
So much empty land south of downtown, west of 676. That whole area is poised for big residential gentrification in the coming years. The infrastructure is there.
     
     
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So much empty land south of downtown, west of 676. That whole area is poised for big residential gentrification in the coming years. The infrastructure is there.
Once they complete these buildings and they all rent out I believe the change will come. It looks like investors aren't confident that a lot of people what to actually live there.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2016, 7:17 PM
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Once they complete these buildings and they all rent out I believe the change will come. It looks like investors aren't confident that a lot of people what to actually live there.
Without proximity to jobs or amenities people have no reason to live there outside of situations like mine. Hopefully this development will bring in enough people on a daily basis to support additional bars and restaurants. That in turn, could start a cycle where more people will view it as a viable option.
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I'm skeptical this will happen. It keeps getting downsized. Don't get me wrong, it will be EXCELLENT for the area, if it happens. Not sure it will anytime soon. Who's doing the construction financing?
     
     
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I'm skeptical this will happen. It keeps getting downsized. Don't get me wrong, it will be EXCELLENT for the area, if it happens. Not sure it will anytime soon. Who's doing the construction financing?
The state is paying for it, it's happening.
     
     
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