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Old Posted Nov 6, 2020, 8:13 PM
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The Garden of Allah Hotel sign turns up

[QUOTE=CaliNative;9091411]^^^

This belongs back in L.A./Hollywood. It looks wrong and sad in the snow.

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The good news is that the sign has been rescued from the wilds of Michigan and is now back in California. It's not LA/Hollywood, but it's closer than it was.

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I'm glad the Garden of Allah sign in back in California.


Earlier today I happened upon a group of 14 amateur slides of the Skid Row area in the 1960s. (and perhaps a few from the late 1950s) The slides are being sold separately.

The majority of the slides are of the L.A. Mission and are a bit faded.

Like this one.


eBay

Do you see the store (Borin) to the right of the mission - I'll show you a better pic of it below.










The following three slides aren't as faded and I find them the most intriguing.


#1


eBay

The seller dates this one as 1967.










Here's a poor man down on his luck.

#2


eBay

I couldn't help but notice the old timey lettering on the wall behind the man. And at lower left here are three numbers of a street address - 695.

Do you think we can figure out what business this is/was?






This next slide shows a man hanging laundry on a rooftop clothesline. No doubt a SRO. (or the roof of the mission?)

#3


eBay


I think there's a possibility we can figure out which rooftop this is if one of you fine sleuths recognize any of the buildings in the distance.



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Here's a poor man down on his luck.

#2


eBay

I couldn't help but notice the old timey lettering on the wall behind the man. And at lower left here are three numbers of a street address - 695.

Do you think we can figure out what business this is/was?




The bricks make me think of Olvera St....
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This next slide shows a man hanging laundry on a rooftop clothesline. No doubt a SRO. (or the roof of the mission?)

#3


eBay

I think there's a possibility we can figure out which rooftop this is if one of you fine sleuths recognize any of the buildings in the distance.
You're correct, e_r, the photographer was on the roof of 443 S Los Angeles Street - the Los Angeles Mission shown in your first picture. I've put a red "X" on the image below. There's more pictures of the LA Mission here.


Google Maps

The brick building on the left is the old Excelsior Laundry at 422 S Los Angeles Street, seen here in 1933.


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The building on the right with the water tower (top-center of the Google image) is the old Westinghouse Building at 420 San Pedro Street, also seen here in 1933. My full post on the building is here.

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Now known as Little Tokyo Lofts, I can't find any previous mentions (I searched for the old and new names, and the address). In its early days it was the Westinghouse Building. The view below is from 1933.


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Old Posted Nov 7, 2020, 8:51 PM
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Over 50 period Los Angeles photos set to a song being revived today...

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Old Posted Nov 7, 2020, 10:17 PM
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^^^

This belongs back in L.A./Hollywood. It looks wrong and sad in the snow.

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The good news is that the sign has been rescued from the wilds of Michigan and is now back in California. It's not LA/Hollywood, but it's closer than it was.

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Good news. Now build a new Garden of Allah around it.
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Over 50 period Los Angeles photos set to a song being revived today...

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A day of celebration indeed for many. You know who has been fired.

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SKID ROW SLIDES



re: The man hanging laundry on the rooftop clothesline.

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e_r, the photographer was on the roof of 443 S Los Angeles Street
Thanks, Hoss. I honestly thought it was a SRO and not the Los Angeles Mission. I'm glad you cleared that up for me.




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The bricks make me think of Olvera St....
I thought the same, ScottyB, but the lettering doesn't seem to be. . how do I say this?. . .um. . .touristy.


And then I noticed that one of the other slides from the Skid Row group (shown below) shows an arrest at the end of a brick alley.


eBay

So perhaps the down-and-out man is in one of the brick alleys in the Skid Row area? (hmmm. . . are there any brick alleys left in downtown Los Angeles?)



Here's a closer look at the arrest. (it appears to be two dudes on motorcycles)


detail


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A day of celebration indeed for many. You know who has been fired.
Here here
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And then I noticed that one of the other slides from the Skid Row group (shown below) shows an arrest at the end of a brick alley.


eBay

So perhaps the down-and-out man is in one of the brick alleys in the Skid Row area? (hmmm. . . are there any brick alleys left in downtown Los Angeles?)
This one was taken behind the LA Mission on Werdin Place. The bricks are now partially covered, but it's likely that the sleeping man was somewhere in this vicinty. The 1936 CD lists the Graphic Arts Ink Co at 240 Werdin Place, but that's the nearest I could find to the old writing on the wall behind the sleeping man.


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I'm glad the Garden of Allah sign in back in California.

Here's a poor man down on his luck.

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This colorful photo was posted by er.
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Behold, Skunk Place:

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Or, as described in Don Enrique Dalton of the Azusa by C.C. Baker:
Here was a rancheria of those Indians nominally attached to Mission San Gabriel, called' in the Shoshonean
Asuksagna, and in the Serrano dialect Ashukshavit, meaning, lit-
erally, skunk place. 4 It was doubtless so named from the fact that
skunks infested the hill which in pioneer days was occupied by the
adobe dwelling and extensive ranch buildings, displaced now by
Citrus Union High School in the present Azusa.
Citrus Union High School is long gone, replaced by a small development called Azusa Heritage, which has a Facebook page containing even more historical illustrations.

Some of the photos show a retaining wall, which remains, though no longer faced with stone. Notice the two pillars on either side of the stairs. I think a reconstructed version of these pillars might be visible in Google Street view:


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This is at Cerritos and 6th in Azusa
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2020, 7:10 PM
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Why I happened to see this online today I have no idea, but I'm posting it for obvious reasons:


https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2018/10/20/news/1464039/
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Why I happened to see this online today I have no idea, but I'm posting it for obvious reasons:

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https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2018/10/20/news/1464039/
Not relevant to this thread, though. This isn't even in Los Angeles.
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2020, 5:56 PM
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I believe Martin posted it because it looks like it says 'NOIRISH'.
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As Ed McMahon would've said, "You are correct, sir!"

P.S.: I thought it was "obvious reasons." Oh well.
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I don't believe we seen this 1980 proposal titled 'A Grand Avenue'. (Carlos Diniz, artist)


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"Carlos Diniz (artist), Overview Rendering of “A Grand Avenue,” 1980
Lawrence Halprin, A Life Spent Changing Places
(Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania, 2011) Archive of Carlos Diniz / Family of Carlos Diniz"


I'm a bit confused by the information. The artist is Mr. Diniz but the architect is Lawrence Halprin. Am I reading that correctly?



I wasn't reading it correctly.

The archichect is Barton Meyers


Here's the largest image I was able to find of the project.


adc-exhibits.museum

Pretty cool!

more info:

Description-
"In 1980, the Los Angeles Community Redevelopment Agency was planning to demolish the Bunker Hill area of the city and organized a competition for a team of architects to design a new urban center.
'A Grand Avenue' proposal was created by developer Robert Maguire and led by Barton Myers Associates and the Urban Innovations Group.

Barton Myers and Edgardo Contini designed a mixed-use development with housing, shops, hotels, parks, and offices. Myers designed two residential towers, both containing ample outdoor space for residents. The plan was to integrate the new development into the surrounding area, bridging the older neighborhood to the east with the newer areas of the downtown core. Their plan did not win the competition, but was widely admired by architects and the public."

adc-exhibits.museum


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Here's another original slide from the 'Skid Row' group.



eBay


There are a few interesting storefronts. Lucky Pawn Shop - a laundry - Lou's Cafe - Al's Bar - and a liquor store.



My favorite is Al's Bar with its streamline facade and marquee. (and round window?)



Here's a closer look.




I believe we have seen Al's on nla in the past but I haven't been able to find the post(s).

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As Ed McMahon would've said, "You are correct, sir!"

P.S.: I thought it was "obvious reasons." Oh well.
I read it literally, and didn't understand the statement you were trying to make.

Sorry. Carry on.
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