The street(s) that divides your city

[LA21st]

Originally Posted by Camelback

The 405 is a divider amongst the coastal LA west siders.

Western Ave isn't all that western in LA either. That's another cool geographic oddity. Historically it must've played a roll with the street grid and old city limits.

I think the 405 thing is kind of a joke among westsiders.
I'm pretty sure people in Brentwood/Santa Monica/Venice are going to Century City, Beverly Hills, Culver City, UCLA etc pretty regularly.
That said, there's probably a signifiigant portion that isn't going east of LA Brea or something, and vice versa. Or it used to be, I think these are dated ideas imo.
Alot's changed in the last 20 years.

[IluvATX]

Originally Posted by Camelback

In Phoenix proper, I would go with North Mountain. Anything south of it is sort of Central Phoenix. Everything north of it is definitely North Phoenix.

Ahwatukee (neighborhood of Phoenix) is on the south facing slope of South Mountain and is disconnected and much farther south than South Phoenix, that's a Geographic Oddity for sure.

I used to live in Ahwatukee and always considered Baseline as being the separation of north and south. Though there are way more people north of Baseline. I also considered Central as being the east to west divider.

[Camelback]

Originally Posted by LA21st

I think the 405 thing is kind of a joke among westsiders.
I'm pretty sure people in Brentwood/Santa Monica/Venice are going to Century City, Beverly Hills, Culver City, UCLA etc pretty regularly.
That said, there's probably a signifiigant portion that isn't going east of LA Brea or something, and vice versa. Or it used to be, I think these are dated ideas imo.
Alot's changed in the last 20 years.

It could be a jokie jibe thing in LA. Anecdotally, my friends that moved to the South Bay after college seem to think it's real in their 'hood.

I've even heard some speak from those north of LAX that down talked living east of Lincoln. Now that is getting rather homie!

[Camelback]

Originally Posted by IluvATX

I used to live in Ahwatukee and always considered Baseline as being the separation of north and south. Though there are way more people north of Baseline. I also considered Central as being the east to west divider.

Yeah that resinates with me. Baseline was the first street that went from the East Valley (Tempe) into South Phoenix. It was the first real Blvd/St/Ave that went towards and into the core city from the East Valley. Ahwatukee (Phoenix) didn't really count for streets like Elliot, Warner, Ray, Chandler Blvd because they didn't go into core Phoenix and they all dead ended into Ahwatukee Phoenix, they felt more like an extension of Chandler and South Tempe, with the dramatic backdrop of South Mountain looming overhead.

[Buckeye Native 001]

Originally Posted by SunDevil

These days I think Northern Ave is a north/south divide in Phoenix, which is kind of funny.

Sounds about right. I was thinking Southern was "too far south" except through the East Valley.

Originally Posted by Camelback

In Phoenix proper, I would go with North Mountain. Anything south of it is sort of Central Phoenix. Everything north of it is definitely North Phoenix.

Ahwatukee (neighborhood of Phoenix) is on the south facing slope of South Mountain and is disconnected and much farther south than South Phoenix, that's a Geographic Oddity for sure.

I lived in Ahwatukee (graduated high school there) and was, as a map/geography dork, endlessly amused that South Mountain was due north of where I lived.

Really created a sense of isolation from the rest of the City of Phoenix, even though it's a 20 minute drive to Downtown.

[IluvATX]

Originally Posted by Buckeye Native 001

Sounds about right. I was thinking Southern was "too far south" except through the East Valley.



I lived in Ahwatukee (graduated high school there) and was, as a map/geography dork, endlessly amused that South Mountain was due north of where I lived.

Really created a sense of isolation from the rest of the City of Phoenix, even though it's a 20 minute drive to Downtown.

I too graduated in Ahwatukee (well Chandler technically) but still that’s cool. I used to love hiking south mountain and around there. One time my dog got hit by a jumping cholla cactus and it wasn’t fun pulling the thorns out.

[Buckeye Native 001]

I'm guessing either Corona del Sol or Mountain Pointe?

[JManc]

Originally Posted by bilbao58

In Houston, Loop 610, a circular freeway, separates the inner city from the infinite and uncharted wastelands beyond.

Inner Looper snob!

[dave8721]

As actual North/South/East/West street names go Miami-Dade's NS divider is pretty ho-hum: Flagler St. North of it is "NW" and "NE" streets, south of it is SE and SW streets. The EW divider though is Miami Ave which is on the far east of the county so there are a few NE neighborhoods but only a couple SE streets in the whole county. The "0 point" of the grid is in the middle of downtown Miami at the intersection of Flagler St and Miami Ave. Only like 0.1% of the County is South East of that point.

All street numbers and addresses radiate outward from this point. Not exactly a central location in the County.
https://www.google.com/maps/@25.7742.../data=!3m1!1e3

[Docere]

Interesting how both DC and Houston have a "beltway" divide.

[xzmattzx]

In Wilmington, the divider is I-95. People that live in Wilmington that are old enough still talk about how I-95 split the city in two. there are prominent streets throughout the city, like Market Street, Washington Street, Delaware Avenue, Pennsylvania Avenue, and Lincoln Street, but none of them are really centralized, and none are such a stark divider like I-95.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7478...=en&authuser=0

Before I-95, the big dividing street was probably Washington Street.

[Pedestrian]

Originally Posted by Docere

Interesting how both DC and Houston have a "beltway" divide.

Baltimore had one first. I remember when I was a child what a wonder the Baltimore Beltway was (DC's had yet to be built--then I watched them build it).

[jbermingham123]

Originally Posted by Centropolis

ladue rd

I dunno... if youre talking about the ladue road in STL, i dont think it really divides much.. I'd say Delmar is a much more extreme dividing line

[bilbao58]

Originally Posted by JManc

Inner Looper snob!

[ChiSoxRox]

Downtown Milwaukee seems to have the address divide be its rivers!

The divide between east and west follows 1st St south from the north edge of town, no surprises -- until rhe Milwaukee River interrupts the street's right of way. At that point, the divide jumps to the Milwaukee River, following it to the confluence with the Menominee, then continues south along 1st St, until the divide follows Chase Avenue (including a slight eastward diagonal) and then Howell Avenue.

The north-south divide runs from the lake up the Milwaukee River to the Menominee, then follows the river for a short distance until Canal Street, following that west until Canal Street bends south, at which point the divide seems to follow a rail line keeping a similar direction.

This results in Milwaukee addresses being separated by meandering lines -- the divides are not straight in Milwaukee!

[saybanana]

Los Angeles city proper
1st street and Main Street are the main streets that determine whether a street is called east or west, north south.
The intersection of 1st and main is LA city Hall.
North of 1st Street everything is North Broadway, North Vermont, North LA Brea until you hit Beverly Hills ( they use wilshire Blvd), north of 1st street they use Avenue not Street so Ave 2o, Ave 50, Ave. 60
South , they use South Broadway, South Vermont etc and use Street not Avenue.
Same for east to west.
I cant think of any other streets that determine other things in LA.
I think some say LA Brea , anything west is the Westside. Some claim the Eastside is from LA Brea while anything east of LA River is the Eastside. Old LA was very small downtown was the center and only really extended 5 miles in all directions , everest was towns, farms and oil fields. So Eastside was the river made sense.

[BnaBreaker]

For Nashville, I'd say it's unquestionably Broadway that divides the city into north and south... the divide is made more pronounced by the rows of protected historic buildings that line it for several blocks going west from the river:

[Camelback]

Originally Posted by Buckeye Native 001

Sounds about right. I was thinking Southern was "too far south" except through the East Valley.



I lived in Ahwatukee (graduated high school there) and was, as a map/geography dork, endlessly amused that South Mountain was due north of where I lived.

Really created a sense of isolation from the rest of the City of Phoenix, even though it's a 20 minute drive to Downtown.

I thought it would have been cool to build a tunnel from Ahwatukee to South Phoenix, but then I realized that nobody in Ahwatukee would want to be connected to that part of town! With the opening of Loop 202 South Mountain Freeway segment, at least Ahwatukee now has another way out and access to Laveen and Central Phoenix.

[thoughtcriminal]

in Philly, Broad Street is the main north/south street, and Market Street is the main east/west. Center Square / City Hall sits at the intersection of the two. there are also subway lines under both of those streets, with an interchange at city hall.
the part of broad immediately south of city hall called the Avenue of the Arts, where many theaters etc. are located (along with older skyscrapers from the early part of the 20th century).
Numbered streets run north/south in Philly, east or west of broad. if Broad were numbered, it would be 14th street, but it's not, so it goes 13th, broad, 15th. so if you ask for directions in Philly and someone tells you to go to 14th street, they are messing with you.

[KevinFromTexas]

In Austin, without a doubt, it's I-35. It separates downtown and the rest of Austin from East Austin. It is the geographic, economic and social divider in Austin and has been since the 50s.


https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/3800...n-TX/17412422/