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Old Posted May 17, 2021, 1:22 PM
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^^Not really, the murders are not overly concentrated to any specific area at least. There are shootings and murders in the Center City area in front of trendy restaurants, ect of random people.

Maybe a good majority of the victims are part of organized crime, but it seems that more and more innocent people are getting caught in the crossfire. Thats exactly why this is a problem for everyone, not just the ''others'' that some people think should be allowed to do whatever they want.
Judging from the Philly murder map, the city is one big cluster with exceptions in the northeast and northwest.

Basically the parts of town with less poverty.
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Old Posted May 17, 2021, 7:29 PM
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Toronto just had its 23rd homicide of the year.
Is that a lot compared to previous years or not?
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Old Posted May 17, 2021, 9:09 PM
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18/4 2021

Sweden (pop 10.2 mil)
Estimated total: 32 (7 deadly shootings)

Stockholm Metro (pop 2.3 mil)
Estimated total: 14 (6 deadly shootings)

Within City limits/Municipality (Pop 960.000)
Estimated total: 4 (2 deadly shootings)

Gothenburg/Göteborg Municipality (Pop 578 000)
Estimated total: 3

Malmo/Malmö Municipality (Pop 344 000)
Estimated total: 1

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London, UK (pop 9 mil)
Estimated total: 30 (0 deadly shootings, 27 stabbings)
17/5 2021

Sweden (pop 10.2 mil)
Estimated total: 43 (12 deadly shootings)

Stockholm Metro (pop 2.3 mil)
Estimated total: 18 (9 deadly shootings)

Within City limits/Municipality (Pop 960.000)
Estimated total: 6 (3 deadly shootings)

Gothenburg/Göteborg Municipality (Pop 578 000)
Estimated total: 4 (0 deadly shootings)

Malmo/Malmö Municipality (Pop 344 000)
Estimated total: 2 (1 deadly shooting)

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London, UK (pop 9 mil)
Estimated total: 40 (2 deadly shootings, 31 stabbings)
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Old Posted May 26, 2021, 7:16 PM
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Toronto is currently at 24 homicides at at May 25th.
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Old Posted May 26, 2021, 10:20 PM
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Portland has 33 homicides, of which 32 were classified as murders and 1 was a justified shooting as determined by a grand jury.
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Old Posted May 27, 2021, 3:09 AM
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Not sure why the moderators deleted the updated crime statistics on this thread. Are we not allowed to disclose the huge spike in violence we're seeing nationwide? I'm not surprised this important information was deleted, but I am disappointed.

I'll post again:

Philadelphia at 208 as of yesterday, 41% increase YOY.
New York at 155, up 22% YOY and 45% since 2019.
Portland at 32, up over 600% YOY.
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Old Posted May 27, 2021, 3:11 AM
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Stats are allowed.

But political ax-grinding BS belongs in the CE toilet.
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Old Posted May 28, 2021, 5:50 PM
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I think one factor we have been overlooking is the massive disruption to drug supply and distribution caused by 2020 lockdowns. Syndicates that were able to keep their supply and distribution networks functioning would inevitably try to edge out competition that had their sources disrupted leading to fighting and increasing violent crime.

Additionally with the economic impacts of the virus hitting so hard as extending for such a long period there will inevitably be people who turn to making money however they can. Unlike other economic recessions the covid crash also aligned a huge shake up in illicit activities markets too hard drugs from over seas became scarce and club drugs had a huge drop in demand with the closure of entertainment venues.
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Old Posted May 28, 2021, 6:33 PM
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^^Yes, that goes hand in hand with the anti public security sentiment of this era.

Since last reported, in less than 24hrs Philadelphia has reported 3 more homicides.
Chicago is at 263, with 14 homicides so far this week.
New York at 165, inching up to 23% YOY more and 50% more since 2019.


Memorial Day weekend should increase these by a good amount, we're getting into prime violence season pretty soon.
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Old Posted May 28, 2021, 8:04 PM
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It’s unfortunate how polarized the debate has become politically because there are legitimate points to be made all around. The way the police and justice system has been used since the 80s as a catch all for dealing with with all social problems has been a ticking time bomb that can’t be ignored during the digital age. Everything is a nail if your a hammer we need other tools in our tool kit and community cooperation is the absolute key to solving the issue.

Unfortunately the aggressive war on drugs policy has corrupted the whole criminal justice system not that it was a police decision to turn to asset seizure as a way to fund themselves. A combination of flooding the jails with low level drug offenders and all the cuts to mental health and social welfare in the 80s left the police overburdened and a vicious cycle started.

Armed police have a job to do in civilized society and that’s to deal with clear and present dangers not occupying troops fighting a forever war on drugs. They need more tools and they need to have a better way of reaching out to the communities that are being effected the most.

A local advocate program is my idea of where to put additional funding. A project which helps poor and disenfranchised areas over the hurdles to access to the tools the system offers such as easy access to quality jobs training. Some kind of in neighborhood presence that knows the people and can help resolve mental health and addiction issues that lead to further problems.

Having police live in the communities they police is the best and quickest way to solve the problem we are facing but our societal problems are old and deep so until then having a local interface that the police can work with or the like might be what we need.
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Old Posted May 28, 2021, 8:37 PM
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It’s unfortunate how polarized the debate has become politically because there are legitimate points to be made all around. The way the police and justice system has been used since the 80s as a catch all for dealing with with all social problems has been a ticking time bomb that can’t be ignored during the digital age. Everything is a nail if your a hammer we need other tools in our tool kit and community cooperation is the absolute key to solving the issue.

Unfortunately the aggressive war on drugs policy has corrupted the whole criminal justice system not that it was a police decision to turn to asset seizure as a way to fund themselves. A combination of flooding the jails with low level drug offenders and all the cuts to mental health and social welfare in the 80s left the police overburdened and a vicious cycle started.

Armed police have a job to do in civilized society and that’s to deal with clear and present dangers not occupying troops fighting a forever war on drugs. They need more tools and they need to have a better way of reaching out to the communities that are being effected the most.

A local advocate program is my idea of where to put additional funding. A project which helps poor and disenfranchised areas over the hurdles to access to the tools the system offers such as easy access to quality jobs training. Some kind of in neighborhood presence that knows the people and can help resolve mental health and addiction issues that lead to further problems.

Having police live in the communities they police is the best and quickest way to solve the problem we are facing but our societal problems are old and deep so until then having a local interface that the police can work with or the like might be what we need.
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Old Posted May 28, 2021, 11:48 PM
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Portland (33 murders and counting) effectively legalized hard drugs a while ago, and it didn't seem to make things safer at all. Instead, it seemed to attract a lot of hardcore druggies from around the nation which helped to spike the violent crime rate. It also encouraged gang violence by massively expanding the size and value of the drug market in the region, and turned it into a trafficking point (which is why out-of-state gangbangers have been involved in some of the recent violence).
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Old Posted May 30, 2021, 2:39 AM
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SF is at 14 murders, down from 18 at this time last year.

shootings are up though, with 87 shooting victims as of last week, compared to 35 at the same time last year.
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Old Posted May 30, 2021, 3:00 AM
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To compensate, Oakland is at 56 homicides, compared to 23 last year at this time.

An increase of over 140%.
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Old Posted May 30, 2021, 5:22 AM
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2021 Austin Metro Murders

| Austin 33 | Travis Co. 37 | Bastrop Co. 0 | Caldwell Co. 1 | Hays Co. 2 | Williamson Co. 2 | Metro 42 |

Causes metrowide
Shooting - 35
Stabbing - 2
Strangled - 0
Suffocation - 0
Throwing (of child) - 0
Beating - 0
Vehicular homicide - 0
Blunt force trauma - 0
Sharp force trauma - 0
Unlisted cause - 5
Domestic terrorism - 0

Austin totals
Downtown - 3
Central Austin - 2
East Austin - 4
North Austin - 7
Northeast Austin - 4
Northwest Austin - 5
South Austin - 3
Southeast Austin - 5
Southwest Austin - 0
West Austin - 0

Victims
Male - 30
Female - 9
Unlisted - 3

| Jan 7 | Feb 9 | Mar 11 | Apr 7 | May 7 | Jun 1 | Jul 0 | Aug 0 | Sep 0 | Oct 0 | Nov 0 | Dec 0 |

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| Mon 5 | Tue 6 | Wed 5 | Thur 6 | Fri 3 | Sat 5 | Sun 11 |

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Murder cases
Code:
1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/suspect-charged-with-capital-murder-after-man-was-found-dead-in-round-rock/?utm_campaign=alert_bar&utm_source=side_bullets - Round Rock shooting - 1/9

1 dead - https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/one-person-dead-after-shooting-in-northeast-austin - Austin shooting - 1/11

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-5000-brighton-road - Austin shooting - 1/18

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/01/22/hays-county-sheriffs-office-investigating-apparent-shooting/6681601002/ - Buda shooting - 1/21

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-killed-after-shootout-between-two-groups-at-north-austin-complex-police-say/ - Austin shooting - 1/23

2 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-1912-w-35th-street - Austin shooting - 1/26

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/one-person-dead-after-shooting-in-north-austin/?fbclid=IwAR2QlQlGL89M9QlIMXNDSAU9spvMEhu31Cpqo8Jsl-tQaPXWOlrPLuNNY4o - Austin shooting - 1/29

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/police-investigating-suspicious-death-in-east-austin-2/ - Austin shooting - 2/2

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/police-investigating-suspicious-death-in-southeast-austin-3/ - Austin obvious trauma - 2/3

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/suspicious-death-being-investigated-in-central-austin/ - Austin shooting - 2/6

2 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/elderly-couple-found-dead-in-suspected-murder-suicide-at-cedar-park-home/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2d0OJqQ9Lwib8K-06sGBipshijYzvjNIcP2vCkMkef1W-GjrUamnIZ9ws - Cedar Park murder/suicide - 2/9

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/19-year-old-man-stabbed-and-killed-northeast-austin-fight-police-say/ - Austin stabbing - 2/16

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-faces-murder-charge-after-wife-found-dead-at-south-austin-hotel-room/ - Austin unlisted cause - 2/16

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/toddler-dies-during-february-winter-storm-austin-police-investigating-as-homicide/ - Austin unlisted cause - 2/18

2 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/travis-county/travis-county-deputies-investigate-possible-murder-suicide-involving-two-male-relatives/ - Pflugervile shooting - 2/19

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/one-man-dead-after-shooting-at-north-austin-apartment-complex/ - Austin shooting - 2/28

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/police-investigating-deadly-shooting-in-downtown-austin-early-sunday-morning/ - Austin shooting - 3/14

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-arrested-on-murder-charge-after-san-marcos-woman-found-dead-on-backyard-patio/ - San Marcos body found - 3/15

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/homicide-investigation-underway-after-death-thursday-morning-in-north-austin/ - Austin shooting - 3/18

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/one-person-dies-in-southeast-austin-shooting/ - Austin shooting - 3/21

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/police-reporting-to-scene-of-shooting-incident-in-northwest-austin-residents-should-avoid-the-area/ - Austin shooting - 3/22

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-investigating-suspicious-death-in-south-austin-neighborhood/ - Austin shooting - 3/25

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-6600-block-bradley-dr - Austin shooting - 3/27

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-taken-to-a-hospital-with-life-threatening-injuries-after-shooting-at-east-austin-home/ - Austin shooting - 3/28

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-11100-block-n-ih-35-svrd - Austin shooting - 3/28 

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-investigating-homicide-in-nw-austin/ - Austin shooting - 3/31

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/crime/leander-texas-police-knife-suspect/269-2018951c-a1c4-4d00-b9b4-c543b4ff4e3a - Leander stabbing - 3/31

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-investigating-deadly-shooting-in-se-austin/ - Austin shooting - 4/6

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/austin-police-investigating-homicide-in-north-austin/ - Austin shooting - 4/13

3 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/active-shooter-reported-at-arboretum-in-northwest-austin-3-reportedly-injured/ - Austin shooting  - 4/18

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/poli...stin-homicide/ - Austin shooting - 4/25

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/poli...in-apartments/ - Austin shooting - 4/29

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-...dziJCzKgAY6OeM - Austin shooting - 5/2

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/16-y...n-bell-county/ - Austin shooting - 5/5

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/cr...a-a8fd7e9920c3 - Lockhart shooting - 5/7

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...g-for-suspect/ - Austin shooting - 5/15

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/15-y...wntown-austin/ - Austin shooting - 5/20

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homi...us-highway-290 - Austin shooting - 5/23

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/story/news...ty/5286265001/ - Pflugerville stabbing - 5/31

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/top-stories/tcs...-south-austin/ - Pflugerville shooting - 6/1

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Pending cases

Code:
1 dead - https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/apd-investigating-deceased-person-in-hotel-room-in-north-central-austin - 2/14 

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/travis-county/18-year-old-found-dead-on-recycling-center-conveyor-belt-in-travis-county/ - 3/24

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/28-year-old-dies-morning-after-fight-at-east-austin-strip-club-suspect-arrested/ - Austin beating - 4/7

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/adult-pronounced-dead-after-being-found-in-ravine-by-bystanders-off-us-290/ - Austin body found - 5/20
Austin area population

City: 978,908 (July 1, 2019 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau
Travis County: 1,273,954 (July 1, 2019 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau
Metro: 2,295,303 (July 1, 2020 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau

Area - City: 297 square miles (2010) - US Census Bureau
Area - Metro: 4,285 square miles - Wikipedia
Area - Travis County: 1,023 square miles - Wikipedia

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Old Posted May 30, 2021, 5:47 AM
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Why is this all happening?

Covid induced societal upending of historically susceptible populations
Increased joblessness and poverty
Police backing off aka blue backlash
Recent acts of racial antagonism (primarily George Floyd incident)

Different cities are basically separate laboratories where the above elements have kicked up their own hornets nest versions.
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Old Posted May 30, 2021, 5:00 PM
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Wow, Austin is fairing particularly bad as well. We’re looking at another city that’ll join the 100% increase YOY murder club. Very much looking forward to hearing about how it’s normal, not a big deal, and how it’ll continue to increase by 100% every year until it is a legitimate war zone.
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Old Posted May 31, 2021, 7:51 AM
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Is that a lot compared to previous years or not?
Toronto Homicides YTD - Valid Sunday, May 30, 2021
2021: 24 (-0.2%)
2020: 29 (+11.5%)
2019: 26 (-21.2%)
2018: 33
2017: 20

Toronto Homicides Total
2020: 71
2019: 79
2018: 97
2017: 65
2016: 75
Source: https://data.torontopolice.on.ca/pages/homicide

Population: 2,988,408



GREATER TORONTO & HAMILTON AREA (as best as I could find)


Hamilton Homicides YTD: 7
Population: 581,722


Halton Region Homicides YTD: 2
Population: 610,581


Peel Region Homicides YTD: 4
Population: 1,563,641


York Region Homicides YTD: 1
Population: 1,200,262


Durham Region Homicides YTD: 1?
Population: 711,426


All populations July 2020 est.
Source: https://www.citypopulation.de/en/canada/ontario/admin/

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17/5 2021

Sweden (pop 10.2 mil)
Estimated total: 43 (12 deadly shootings)

Stockholm Metro (pop 2.3 mil)
Estimated total: 18 (9 deadly shootings)

Within City limits/Municipality (Pop 960.000)
Estimated total: 6 (3 deadly shootings)

Gothenburg/Göteborg Municipality (Pop 578 000)
Estimated total: 4 (0 deadly shootings)

Malmo/Malmö Municipality (Pop 344 000)
Estimated total: 2 (1 deadly shooting)

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London, UK (pop 9 mil)
Estimated total: 40 (2 deadly shootings, 31 stabbings)

1/6 2021

Sweden (pop 10.2 mil)
Estimated total: 49 (17 deadly shootings)

Stockholm Metro (pop 2.3 mil)
Estimated total: 22 (12 deadly shootings)

Within City limits/Municipality (Pop 960.000)
Estimated total: 9 (5 deadly shootings)

Gothenburg/Göteborg Municipality (Pop 578 000)
Estimated total: 5 (1 deadly shootings)

Malmo/Malmö Municipality (Pop 344 000)
Estimated total: 2 (1 deadly shooting)

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London, UK (pop 9 mil)
Estimated total: 48 (3 deadly shootings, 33 stabbings)
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