NEW YORK | 125 Greenwich Street | 912 FT | 70 FLOORS - Page 50

chris08876 · #**981** Posted **Dec 18, 2019, 1:16 PM**

Completion Expected Next Year For 125 Greenwich Street, In Financial District

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Work is almost entirely complete on the reflective curtain wall of 125 Greenwich Street, number 14 in our countdown of the tallest projects under construction in New York City. The only sections awaiting façade work are the podium and the portion where the exterior hoist is still mounted. Designed by Rafael Vinoly and developed by Bizzi & Partners and Vector Group, the slender 88-story residential skyscraper stands 912 feet tall over the Financial District. The 273 residential units are being marketed by Douglas Elliman, while the interiors are designed by March & White. Plaza Construction is the general contractor for the development.

Photos from around the neighborhood show the tower from multiple angles and in varying lighting conditions. The blue sky easily reflects off the envelope and blends with the glass skyscrapers of the World Trade Center.

The section of the envelope requiring the most work is the lower floors of the building. Portions of the mixed glass and metal panels can be seen on the northern corner of the Greenwich Street elevation as well as on the profile along Thames Street. This is the only part of the architectural design that significantly contrasts with the geometry and outside appearance of the main superstructure above.

Although 125 Greenwich Street faced financial issues and disputes this past summer regarding two foreclosure proceedings, the project should most likely be completed sometime in 2020.

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Visionist · #**982** Posted **Dec 22, 2019, 8:45 AM**

They really should have covered that ugly concrete with marble, or granite, or backlit translucent plastic, or anything.

This tower will always look unfinished.

chris08876 · #**983** Posted **Dec 23, 2019, 3:08 PM**

Credit: FC

chris08876 · #**984** Posted **Dec 30, 2019, 7:04 PM**

New York December 2019 by Cesar Pics, on Flickr

chris08876 · #**985** Posted **Jan 30, 2020, 5:17 AM**

Credit: gigi.nyc

artspook · #**986** Posted **Jan 31, 2020, 7:30 AM**

this building isn't much . . it doesn't pretend to be much . .
it's unassuming . . That be given, it's height & proportion are pretty great
. . works well at this location . . pristine rounded glass corners vastly
upgrade this very simple slender concrete box . .
the break midway up in the vertical glass form, also adds interest . .
No matter how much the glass wants to match up & be a part of it,
125 Greenwich is apart from, & doesn't have to live up to, its WTC
neighbors . . not bad . .

UTEPman · #**987** Posted **Feb 3, 2020, 3:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by artspook

this building isn't much . . it doesn't pretend to be much . .
it's unassuming . . That be given, it's height & proportion are pretty great
. . works well at this location . . pristine rounded glass corners vastly
upgrade this very simple slender concrete box . .
the break midway up in the vertical glass form, also adds interest . .
No matter how much the glass wants to match up & be a part of it,
125 Greenwich is apart from, & doesn't have to live up to, its WTC
neighbors . . not bad . .

Your critiques on buildings mirror almost 100% my own opinions, but this might be a lone exception.

The vertical sidewalks kill anything I would have liked about this building. It's completely distracting, and in complete conflict with the rest of the smooth glassy skin...

chris08876 · #**988** Posted **Feb 3, 2020, 3:54 AM**

That's a good way to put it. Vertical sidewalks. Yeah I wonder what they were thinking when they decided to include that element. Because one can imagine the tower is quite alright, like not in a bad way, but adequate if the sidewalks weren't there.

SkyHigher · #**989** Posted **Feb 3, 2020, 5:08 PM**

My only issue is of it's color. It looks like it could be part of the WTC complex.

NYer34 · #**990** Posted **Feb 8, 2020, 5:38 PM**

Like a little bit of "The Beekman"/115 Nassau next to the WTC...

chris08876 · #**991** Posted **Feb 11, 2020, 1:00 AM**

baronsonphoto-20200126-020.jpg by Brian Aronson, on Flickr

Crawford · #**992** Posted **Feb 11, 2020, 2:17 AM**

What a yawner. This was, at one point, 1,300-1,400 ft., and now just an anonymous background tower.

jayden · #**993** Posted **Feb 12, 2020, 2:07 AM**

Well if the design was always going to end up this way, I would rather be this height than 1,300+ feet.

It's not a bad looking building. I think it compliments the WTC well.

uaarkson · #**994** Posted **Feb 12, 2020, 4:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Crawford

What a yawner. This was, at one point, 1,300-1,400 ft., and now just an anonymous background tower.

With the stupid half-concrete, half-WTC glass facade, I'm glad it didn't end up more prominent. Such an awkward design. It basically looks half finished.

citybooster · #**995** Posted **Feb 12, 2020, 9:08 PM**

The glassiness and curvature are great... the concrete is inexplicable. I agree it's best that it isn't more prominent because it really is hurt by the jarring clash of look here. There is no justifying the unsightliness of the concrete when it could have been a gorgeous building all around without.

JSsocal · #**996** Posted **Feb 13, 2020, 3:39 AM**

Call me crazy.. but I get it, and I like the concrete.. clean and simple, and the concrete's gonna get dirty and rough and contrast all the mirror glass.

Probably would wish they did the mechanical floors differently.

SkyHigher · #**997** Posted **Feb 15, 2020, 4:55 PM**

Maybe adding a more rather elaborate crown could save it in the future?

chris08876 · #**998** Posted **Feb 26, 2020, 2:54 AM**

Credit: Tectonic

NYguy · #**999** Posted **Mar 2, 2020, 3:06 PM**

All the talk of residential on the WTC site should cool a bit.

https://therealdeal.com/2020/03/02/f...125-greenwich/

Fortress buys debt on troubled 125 Greenwich
SoftBank-owned investment firm paid $230M for tower’s defaulted mortgage

TRD NEW YORK
Mar. 02, 2020

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A SoftBank-owned investment firm has purchased the defaulted mortgage on the troubled luxury condo tower 125 Greenwich Street.

Fortress Investment Group bought the mortgage for about $230 million from the investment firm BH3, according to the Wall Street Journal. BH3 had been moving to foreclose on the 88-story project, which is under construction but nearly complete. Fortress will have the right to continue the foreclosure lawsuit if it chooses.

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The developers — Howard Lorber’s New Valley, Davide Bizzi’s Bizzi & Partners, the Carlton Group and China Cindat — defaulted on the loan as the market for high-end apartments in New York began to weaken. A group of lenders including United Overseas Bank filed to foreclose on the project last year, but BH3 ended up buying the loan for about $125 million in July.

Manhattan is dealing with a glut of luxury condos thanks to a surge in new construction, which has given investors an opportunity to bail developers out at high interest rates, purchase defaulted loans or take over projects that are not doing well for low prices.

artspook · #**1000** Posted **Mar 11, 2020, 6:31 AM**

hey UTEPman -
. touche´! . . ya brilliantly nailed it . .
love your "vertical sidewalks" description . .
I don't particularly like them either . . they don't, however
"kill anything I would have liked about this building" though . .
. the overall proportion is great . .
& some of the other stuff i mentioned . .
though I'd like 125 Greenwich less, if it were All glass . .
so in that respect, the sidewalks for me, are better than that . .
I wish the bare concrete could've been textured corten steel
(where's there any corten steel on towers in this town ? - nowhere !) . .
limestone would've been nice . . any kind of stone or metal . .
vertical concrete sidewalks, meh . .