Suburbs in Chicago and elsewhere are aspiring to out-city the city

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by ardecila

I mean, it's great for the lulz but I think it's actually a huge thing that Schaumburg *of all places* is realizing the limits of typical suburban development.

They're obviously never gonna make Woodfield into Lincoln Square, but this does seem like an inflection point for the region if the quintessential sprawlburb is finally changing their ways.

Yes, the paradigm shift is certainly noteworthy.

But as one of the most thoroughly auto-centric "geography of nowhere" places ever designed, schaumburg seems like such a lost cause to me.

They're never gonna redevelop any of the numerous 6 lane stroads that criss-cross it into anything ever resembling traditional urbanism, not in my lifetime anyway.

It's a shame how that crap got baked in from the beginning and will be an anchor for the town for the foreseeable future.

The egregious and unfortunate mistakes of post-war planning will be very hard to undo on any kind of larger scale.

[galleyfox]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

Yes, the paradigm shift is certainly noteworthy.

But as one of the most thoroughly "geography of nowhere" auto-centric places ever designed, schaumburg seems like such a lost cause to me.

They're never gonna redevelop any of the numerous 6 lane stroads that criss-cross it into anything ever resembling traditional urbanism, not in my lifetime anyway.

It's a shame how that crap got baked in from the beginning and will be an anchor for the town for the foreseeable future.

The egregious and then unfortunate mistakes of post-war planning will be very hard to undo on any kind of larger scale.

Feels like a meme to be honest.

Suburb builds an outdoor mall with restaurants.

*“Is this urbanism?”*

Urbanism really is about the roads. Either people feel comfortable walking from place to place, or they don’t.

[jmecklenborg]

8(!) years ago, Aaron Renn coined the phrase "The New Aspirational Suburb":
https://www.newgeography.com/content...ational-suburb

[Docere]

What's a better place to spend a week: Schaumburg or Jacksonville?

[SIGSEGV]

Originally Posted by Docere

What's a better place to spend a week: Schaumburg or Jacksonville?

Jacksonville, IL https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7337...7i16384!8i8192

[Comrade]

Originally Posted by cabasse

a lot of that isn't half bad, you could do so much worse than this https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5530...7i16384!8i8192

Daybreak wasn't really the focus - but the actual 'city center' of the area.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

Jacksonville, IL https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7337...7i16384!8i8192

Too bad they didn't put the courthouse in courthouse square, unlike pretty much every other small town county seat in the rural Midwest.