NEW YORK | 200 Greenwich - 2 WTC | 1,270 FT | 80 FLOORS | ON HOLD - Page 266

jbermingham123 · #**5301** Posted **Apr 22, 2021, 7:39 PM**

You guys somehow missed the only important detail here:

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Originally Posted by NYguy

Lori Weiss: "The future 2 World Trade Center is being redesigned by Foster & Partners"

Zapatan · #**5302** Posted **Apr 22, 2021, 7:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by jbermingham123

You guys somehow missed the only important detail here:

I hope they're right and that BIG has nothing to do with the redesign. I like some of his work but not for the WTC.

Foster's tower was a work of art.

jbermingham123 · #**5303** Posted **Apr 22, 2021, 7:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

Foster's tower was a work of art.

I would even go so far as to say that Foster's 2wtc design will be seen by architectural scholars as his magnum opus.. his ultimate masterpiece

Its his 9th symphony, his Mona Lisa, his David, his War & Peace

dropdeaded209 · #**5304** Posted **Apr 22, 2021, 10:53 PM**

that was and will always be HSBC Hong Kong, 'nuff said.

eXodius · #**5305** Posted **Apr 23, 2021, 12:38 AM**

Since its inception, I've always wanted to see this building come to life! While the WTC is a huge compromise on all sides to even get it built this far, it would've been something to have seen the light shine from the top of 2WTC to the windows atop the Oculus on the 20th anniversary.

There's still hope that we'll see this design again! Maybe for the 25th anniversary, we can enjoy the completed site without construction work nearby (that is, til 5WTC begins to rise)!

faridnyc · #**5306** Posted **Apr 23, 2021, 3:44 AM**

This tower is just viewed on babylon AD.

faridnyc · #**5307** Posted **Apr 23, 2021, 3:47 AM**

Its amazing , i hope there will be no height redueced same as 3 world trade center witch is planned to have 383m height with spire .

rgarri4 · #**5308** Posted **Apr 23, 2021, 4:19 AM**

As long as it doesn't look like his PENN 15 or 350 Park ave. He seems to be into incorporating outdoor spaces but doesn't always nail the forms. Just my opinion.

JMKeynes · #**5309** Posted **Apr 23, 2021, 10:25 AM**

These articles suggest that there will be a new design by Foster. Thus, it seems that 200 Greenwich is dead.

I hope that the Good Lord (I.e., Foster) and Larry have the sense to make this a mixed use because unless they have a deep-pocketed Middle Easter investor willing to finance a spec tower, this won’t be developed for a very long time if it’s a 2.8m sf office tower. Anchor firms seeking 1m sf+ want to be in Midtown.

TonyNYC · #**5310** Posted **Apr 23, 2021, 12:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by jbermingham123

You guys somehow missed the only important detail here:

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Originally Posted by NYguy View Post
Lori Weiss: "The future 2 World Trade Center is being redesigned by Foster & Partners"

No concerns with Foster & Partners after Penn 15??

What a terrible design.. another one like that at the World Trade.. Holy shit!!

Zapatan · #**5311** Posted **Apr 23, 2021, 2:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by rgarri4

As long as it doesn't look like his PENN 15 or 350 Park ave. He seems to be into incorporating outdoor spaces but doesn't always nail the forms. Just my opinion.

350 park rocks IMO, but wouldn't fit the WTC site.

PENN 15, well... that's a massive disaster

JSsocal · #**5312** Posted **Apr 23, 2021, 2:13 PM**

Keep this in mind, I think much of the reason Foster was retained for this project is to reuse the foundations as much as possible and not have to redo the basement levels under 2 wtc.

It might be more of a half step then a total redesign.

citybooster · #**5313** Posted **Apr 23, 2021, 2:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

350 park rocks IMO, but wouldn't fit the WTC site.

PENN 15, well... that's a massive disaster

Agree wholeheartedly. I LOVE 350 Park, but absolutely NOT for part of the World Trade Center complex. It just doesn't fit there. And the less said for Penn15, the better. Even Foster can lay a bad egg every now and then. Hopefully forward thinking with the 15 or so years since the original Foster design, but still classic and taking some inspiration from the past, like the original design. Hopefully NOTHING like the BIG design disaster either.

NYguy · #**5314** Posted **Apr 23, 2021, 5:20 PM**

Let’s keep this focused on 2 WTC. We’ve already known Foster was working on an updated design. I’m just surprised we haven’t seen anything of it by now.

Raysiri · #**5315** Posted **Apr 23, 2021, 11:06 PM**

Foster’s 2 WTC design looks so cyberpunkish and futuristic, but still I’m not going with it. I like BIG’s better because it’s beautiful and eco-friendly.

newyorker · #**5316** Posted **Apr 23, 2021, 11:33 PM**

Then there's this design, which to me is a no-brainer

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pianowizard · #**5317** Posted **Apr 23, 2021, 11:37 PM**

^This is also my favorite, though it would probably cost too much.

Xing Lin · #**5318** Posted **Apr 23, 2021, 11:48 PM**

The chance for a twin of Child's 1WTC was gone long before the first one was started. 2WTC's site is too narrow between Vesey and Fulton, the foundations are incompatible, and the site's way too far and misaligned from 1WTC for a twin to look in any way good.

noms78 · #**5319** Posted **Apr 24, 2021, 1:16 AM**

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Then there's this design, which to me is a no-brainer

The reason the original WTC twins "worked" was because of their simple box shapes.

Twins using the new tower design wouldn't work (see photo above).

The current 1WTC design is pretty good but I think the spire could be improved with some "cladding".

NYguy · #**5320** Posted **Apr 24, 2021, 2:27 PM**

Yeah, they're not building a twin, I don't know why it keeps popping up, especially here. There's a thread to dwell on that, but we're looking forward to Foster's new design now, to be judged when we see it.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=172731

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=181595

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=184976