PHILADELPHIA | Lowrise/General Developments Thread - Page 915

Knight Hospitaller · #**18281** Posted **Feb 14, 2022, 10:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by reparcsyks

This can't be true. Isn't everyone leaving Philly for the suburbs??

Ha ha, but that hyperbole wasn't the proposition. Just anecdotes from confirmed city folk that I wouldn't have expected to suddenly become uber-suburbanites, and suburbanites who loved going into town, but not at all these days (some of which can be attributed to the more sophisticated destinations available outside the city limits these days). We can love/criticize Philadelphia and surrounding environs without being alarmist about problems OR in denial about their existence. I'd think we'd want the city to be cosmopolitan and as broadly attractive as possible.

mcgrath618 · #**18282** Posted **Feb 14, 2022, 11:21 PM**

We should be getting CDR tomorrow, no?

PurpleWhiteOut · #**18283** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 12:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller

Weren't the Lancaster Ave renderings more traditional looking initially, or am I thinking of something that was to go in a couple of blocks east?

I think it was always this design, but the renderings kind of hid the material textures and gave a more flat-color look. It looks kinda sad in reality unfortunately. Somehow it might even have looked better without brick, it's just so disjointed (or obviously all brick)

summersm343 · #**18284** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 1:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618

We should be getting CDR tomorrow, no?

Yeah. Tomorrow or Wednesday.

allovertown · #**18285** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 6:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by PurpleWhiteOut

I think it was always this design, but the renderings kind of hid the material textures and gave a more flat-color look. It looks kinda sad in reality unfortunately. Somehow it might even have looked better without brick, it's just so disjointed (or obviously all brick)

I walked by it in person a few weeks ago. Definitely would disagree that this would look better with no brick. I think the brick is prefabricated panels because it has some seams that are indicative of it being so, but without those seems it would be pretty hard to tell, the brick honestly looks decent, certainly better than most prefabricated panels I've seen.

The setback though... is so ugly it's unreal. Looks like cheap plastic. The colors seem to indicate that it's trying to blend in, but the busy design and how weird it looks just end up calling attention to it. Truly, truly hideous.

The current design is terribly disjointed, but the acceptable brick base at least means that if you're close to it, you can't see the setback and it looks fine. It definitely wouldn't be improved it you added more of that cheap plastic and metal panels.

Can't believe we couldn't get something better at this location. Powelton Village used to be one of the most beautiful neighborhoods in the city, all the student housing built in the past decade or so have really marred it.

EastSideHBG · #**18286** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 2:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller

Ha ha, but that hyperbole wasn't the proposition. Just anecdotes from confirmed city folk that I wouldn't have expected to suddenly become uber-suburbanites, and suburbanites who loved going into town, but not at all these days (some of which can be attributed to the more sophisticated destinations available outside the city limits these days). We can love/criticize Philadelphia and surrounding environs without being alarmist about problems OR in denial about their existence. I'd think we'd want the city to be cosmopolitan and as broadly attractive as possible.

chimpskibot · #**18287** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 3:36 PM**

CDR us out. Really like the project in East Kensington, 150WBerks. The rest of the projects are kinda meh especially Broad and Pine. Really an underwhelming project from Dranoff after Arthaus and looks better suited for the mid 2000s.

summersm343 · #**18288** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 4:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by chimpskibot

CDR us out. Really like the project in East Kensington, 150WBerks. The rest of the projects are kinda meh especially Broad and Pine. Really an underwhelming project from Dranoff after Arthaus and looks better suited for the mid 2000s.

I also love both of the Frankford Avenue projects in Fishtown... but yeah, that Dranoff building at Broad and Pine is super disappointing and ugly. Both previous renderings for the project here were much more appealing.

summersm343 · #**18289** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 4:03 PM**

Speculation Time: Subdivision Could Mean a Project at 4th & Callowhill

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According to some just-released zoning documents though, we may have our first clue, as Arts + Crafts recently received approval to subdivide the Callowhill facing southwest portion of the lot. Check out the site plan below The subdivision of the 444 N. 4th Street property is on the bottom left of the site plan. It's a parking lot and 1-story building now:

Current site:

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With an area of 26K sqft, the newly subdivided lot could see something sizable pop-up on this corner. Our back of the napkin math gives us a maximum building size of approximately 131K sqft, going up to 185K sqft with bonuses, all of which can be pursued by-right, assuming they can meet the parking minimums. And wouldn’t you know it, this happens to align size and approach-wise with the project planned a block away at 5th & Callowhill. So… perhaps we’ll see something similar to that plan?

Read/view more here:
https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-phil...4th-callowhill

summersm343 · #**18290** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 4:05 PM**

The Block at SoNo project wrapping up at 5th & Willow Streets in SoNo/Callow East/Whatever

https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-phil...4th-callowhill

summersm343 · #**18291** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 4:10 PM**

A Pivot at 9th & Catharine, From Townhomes to Multi-Family

Current site:

9th & Catharine Rendering:

New rendering of Darien & Catharine side:

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When we last covered this property, we told you that developers were proposing a four-story mixed-use building on 9th Street with 42 units, ground-floor retail, and underground parking. We noted that Rite Aid would continue to operate during this time in their existing building, and they would then move into the new building upon its completion. Then the plans called for the demolition of the current Rite Aid building and the construction of 9 homes on Darien Street, also with underground parking and significant 4th floor setbacks.

After some significant back and forth with the community, the developers are taking some feedback from the meeting and amending their proposal to a by-right plan. The 9th Street building will remain largely intact as originally presented, though it will shrink a little and will only include 38 apartments, maintaining the Rite Aid on the first floor. Instead of homes, the developers are now looking at a second mixed-use building with 37 units. Combined, the two buildings will include a total of 28 underground parking spots, with drive-aisle access via Darien Street.

Read/view more here:
https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-phil...o-multi-family

summersm343 · #**18292** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 4:12 PM**

The LVL North (510 N. Broad Street) on the left, and 545 N. Broad Street on the right:

http://www.rising.realestate/410-uni...-broad-street/

PhilliesPhan · #**18293** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 4:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

The LVL North (510 N. Broad Street) on the left, and 545 N. Broad Street on the right:

http://www.rising.realestate/410-uni...-broad-street/

I wonder if the snippet about "more developments on North Broad to tell you about" at the end of the article has to do with the 676 North Broad, the one-story building and adjacent vacant lot at the corner of Broad and Melon. Kyle was the one who marketed and sold that lot, and I witnessed soil testing at that site a while ago. I'm hoping that we'll hear about a tower at that location, especially with all of the development happening along North Broad between City Hall and Temple! Either that, or Mural West finally starting.

Speaking of North Broad: the gas station at the corner of SE corner of Broad and Parrish was recently demolished, so let's hope that the 50-unit apartment building will be starting soon!

summersm343 · #**18294** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 4:30 PM**

March CDR Submissions are up!

1120 Frankford Avenue
-We've seen this one already
-Located in Fishtown
-Mixed-use 150-unit residential building with ground floor retail
-5 floors in total
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20220215...1-2022-CDR.pdf

1359 Frankford Avenue
-We've seen this one already as well
-Located in Fishtown
-Mixed-use 61-unit residential building with ground floor retail
-4 floors in total
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20220215...1-2022-CDR.pdf

150 W. Berks Street
-We've seen this one too
-Located in Norris Square
-Mixed-use 152-unit residential building with ground floor retail
-7 floors in total
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20220215...1-2022-CDR.pdf

PHLtoNYC · #**18295** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 10:13 PM**

Philadelphia250 to issue call for community projects leading up to 2026 celebration

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...Pos=6#cxrecs_s

"The nonprofit coordinating Philadelphia’s plans for the semiquincentennial is issuing a public call for community projects that will pave the way to the 2026 celebration."

"Many Philadelphia attractions were legacy projects that came out of past major anniversary commemorations, DiLeo Kim said. For example, Memorial Hall, now home to the Please Touch Museum, was built as an art gallery for the 1876 Centennial, which also informed the layout of the city’s Centennial District, she noted. The Ben Franklin Bridge and FDR Park were born out of the 1926 sesquicentennial, while the 1976 bicentennial yielded projects like Robert Indiana's iconic LOVE sculpture and the African-American Museum in Philadelphia, DiLeo Kim added."

cardeza · #**18296** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 10:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller

Ha ha, but that hyperbole wasn't the proposition. Just anecdotes from confirmed city folk that I wouldn't have expected to suddenly become uber-suburbanites, and suburbanites who loved going into town, but not at all these days (some of which can be attributed to the more sophisticated destinations available outside the city limits these days). We can love/criticize Philadelphia and surrounding environs without being alarmist about problems OR in denial about their existence. I'd think we'd want the city to be cosmopolitan and as broadly attractive as possible.

one would think so but some here seem to think that any good news or new development "proves" Philly is doing great and anyone saying otherwise is out of touch. In a city of 1.6 million apparently its not possible to have new construction and popular new apt buildings and horrendous crime and trash problems.