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amazing to compare 1941 with 2021
Canada now has:
Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton Metros at ~1.5M
Vancouver over 2.6M
Montreal over 4.2M
Toronto over 6.2M

and Winnipeg (~835k), Quebec City (~840k), and Hamilton (~785k) that will probably be over 1M in the next 15 or so years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ions_in_Canada
I wouldn't be surprised to see 12 Canadian metros 1 million+ by mid-century. KW, London, and Halifax have extremely strong growth fundamentals and could represent the next wave of boom towns. A 27 year projection is rather foolhardy but it's certainly plausible to see Halifax (~490,000) get there. It likely grew by 20,000 people last year. KW snd London are slightly larger metros but grew quickly as well. I'd classify Victoria and Kelowna as budding boom towns but they would need more time to get there.
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I am still trying to wrap my head around the notion that Scranton was the 21st largest metro in 1940. I guess with Wilkes-Barre...but still. It is a surprise. No Dallas-Fort Worth. No Miami. No Denver. No Seattle.

Big changes in what was/is probably the most mobile country in the world.
Indeed, especially striking as we are likely entering a period of population stagnation nationally. The major shifts of the late 19th/most of the 20th Centuries increasingly appears to be a phenomenon of the past.

The 1940s metro population figures really show the peak of Pennsylvania and New York as the Mid-Atlantic dynamic duo of states that predominated urbanism in the US at that time (PA was the only state with three 3 major metro areas at that time in the Top 25, and 2 in the Top 10--a fascinating feat).
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The City of Atlanta, 1940, was a relatively dense city of 302, 288 that dominated the metropolitan region of 518, 100.

https://exhibits.library.gsu.edu/sprawling-of-atlanta/
We've gone through this already. The MSA definition was adopted in 1950. These are the metropolitan district populations in 1940. The Atlanta metropolitan district in 1940 had a population of 442,000.
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. The MSA definition was adopted in 1950. These are the metropolitan district populations in 1940. The Atlanta metropolitan district in 1940 had a population of 442,000.[/QUOTE]
Avondale Estates city ___________ _
Chamblee citY------------------- Clarkston town _________________ _ College Park city _______________ _ Decatur city a ___________________ _
East Point city•----------------- Hapeville city __________________ _
North Atlanta town ____________ _
Unincorporated areas_---------------
District includes the following minor
civil divisions (militia districts and
cities):
Iii Clayton County _______________________ _
Dist. 1446, Oak 6 (incl. part of College Park city) _____ ---------------_
In Cobb County _________________________ _
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8, 213 16, 561 12,403
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You are missing 93,834

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From the 1940 census:

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I wouldn't be surprised to see 12 Canadian metros 1 million+ by mid-century. KW, London, and Halifax have extremely strong growth fundamentals and could represent the next wave of boom towns. A 27 year projection is rather foolhardy but it's certainly plausible to see Halifax (~490,000) get there. It likely grew by 20,000 people last year. KW snd London are slightly larger metros but grew quickly as well. I'd classify Victoria and Kelowna as budding boom towns but they would need more time to get there.
I’d add the Windsor and Niagara regions to that possible boom town list as well, both are growing quickly now, and the fundamentals are there for continued strong growth, especially Windsor with the new multi billion dollar international crossing as well as the huge new electric battery plant and all of its spinoff feeder plants that will follow. Both should be around 500K in the very near future.

Windsor is forecast to lead the nation in economic growth rate in 2023.

https://windsorstar.com/news/local-n...ic-growth-rate

The Conference Board of Canada is forecasting the Windsor CMA will enjoy the highest GDP growth in Canada this year at 2.4%, which is 12 times the predicted provincial growth and nearly double the predicted national growth. The region is also predicted to outpace the provincial and national gains in 2024.

https://windsorstar.com/news/windsor...most-promising
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Top 50 US Metropolitan Districts, 1940

1. New York 11,690,520
2. Chicago 4,499,126
3. Los Angeles 2,904,596
4. Philadelphia 2,898,644
5. Boston 2,350,514
6. Detroit 2,295,867
7. Pittsburgh 1,994,060
8. San Francisco 1,428,525
9. St. Louis 1,367,977
10. Cleveland 1,214,943
11. Baltimore 1,046,692
12. Minneapolis-St. Paul 911,077
13. Washington 907,816
14. Buffalo 857,719
15. Milwaukee 790,336
16. Cincinnati 789,309
17. Providence 711,500
18. Kansas City 634,693
19. Scranton-Wilkes Barre 629,581
20. New Orleans 540,030
21. Houston 510,397
22. Hartford 502,193
23. Indianapolis 455,397
24. Seattle 452,639
25. Atlanta 442,294
26. Louisville 434,308
27. Albany-Schenectady 431,575
28. Rochester 411,970
29. Birmingham 407,851
30. Portland 406,406
31. Springfield, Mass. 394,623
32. Denver 384,372
33. Dallas 376,548
34. Youngstown 373,428
35. Columbus 365,796
36. Akron 349,705
37. Toledo 341,663
38. Haverhill-Lawrence-Lowell 334,969
39. Memphis 332,477
40. Norfolk 330,396
41. Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton 325,142
42. San Antonio 319,010
43. New Haven 308,228
44. Worcester 306,194
45. Omaha 287,698
46. Fall River-New Bedford 272,648
47. Dayton 271,512
48. Syracuse 258,353
49. San Diego 256,368
50. Miami 250,537
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back during MLB's golden age, the 16 teams of the NL and AL stayed in the same 10 cities for 5 decades, from 1903 - 1953.

when you look at these 1940 metro populations, it becomes apparent that when MLB started reshuffling/expanding teams in the 50s/60s, LA and the bay area were at the top of their list.

baltimore, minneapolis, milwaukee, and kansas city were also key early relocation destinations as well, which makes sense looking at how things stood at the time.



Top 50 US Metropolitan Districts, 1940

1. New York 11,690,520 (3 MLB teams)
2. Chicago 4,499,126 (2 MLB teams)
3. Los Angeles 2,904,596
4. Philadelphia 2,898,644 (2 MLB teams)
5. Boston 2,350,514 (2 MLB team)
6. Detroit 2,295,867 (1 MLB team)
7. Pittsburgh 1,994,060 (1 MLB team)
8. San Francisco 1,428,525
9. St. Louis 1,367,977 (2 MLB teams)
10. Cleveland 1,214,943 (1 MLB team)
11. Baltimore 1,046,692
12. Minneapolis-St. Paul 911,077
13. Washington 907,816 (1 MLB team)
14. Buffalo 857,719
15. Milwaukee 790,336
16. Cincinnati 789,309 (1 MLB team)
17. Providence 711,500
18. Kansas City 634,693
19. Scranton-Wilkes Barre 629,581
20. New Orleans 540,030
21. Houston 510,397
22. Hartford 502,193
23. Indianapolis 455,397
24. Seattle 452,639
25. Atlanta 442,294
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Also interesting that Birmingham, not Atlanta, was the largest southern city back around WW2. No doubt the postwar Atlanta growth engine was aided by the "City to Busy to Hate" marketing, while Birmingham was "Bombingham", the major city most resistant to integration, with really prominent violence/hatred.
Birmingham was larger than New Orleans?
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1950 vs. 1997, ranked by 1950 size, US metropolitan areas.
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    Metropolitan Area 1950 1990 Change from 1950 1996 Change from 1950
    1 New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-CT-PA CMSA 14,018,852 19,549,649 39.5% 19,938,492 42.2%
    2 Chicago-Gary-Kenosha, IL-IN-WI CMSA 6,869,699 8,239,820 19.9% 8,599,774 25.2%
    3 Los Angeles-Riverside-Orange County, CA CMSA 4,819,599 14,531,529 201.5% 15,495,155 221.5%
    4 Philadelphia-Wilmington-Atlantic City, PA-NJ-DE-MD CMSA 4,071,814 5,893,019 44.7% 5,973,463 46.7%
    5 Boston-Worcester-Lawrence, MA-NH-ME-CT CMSA 3,456,063 5,455,403 57.9% 5,563,475 61.0%
    6 Detroit-Ann Arbor-Flint, MI CMSA 3,421,766 5,187,171 51.6% 5,284,171 54.4%
    7 Washington-Baltimore, DC-MD-VA-WV CMSA 2,869,488 6,726,395 134.4% 7,164,519 149.7%
    8 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose, CA CMSA 2,531,314 6,249,881 146.9% 6,605,428 160.9%
    9 Pittsburgh, PA MSA 2,213,236 2,394,811 8.2% 2,379,411 7.5%
    10 St. Louis, MO-IL MSA 1,719,288 2,492,348 45.0% 2,548,238 48.2%
    11 Cleveland-Akron, OH CMSA 1,465,511 2,859,644 95.1% 2,913,430 98.8%
    12 Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN-WI MSA 1,151,053 2,538,776 120.6% 2,765,116 140.2%
    13 Dallas-Fort Worth, TX CMSA 1,136,144 4,037,282 255.3% 4,574,561 302.6%
    14 Seattle-Tacoma-Bremerton, WA CMSA 1,120,448 2,970,300 165.1% 3,320,829 196.4%
    15 Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY MSA 1,089,230 1,189,340 9.2% 1,175,240 7.9%
    16 Milwaukee-Racine, WI CMSA 1,066,533 1,607,183 50.7% 1,642,658 54.0%
    17 Cincinnati-Hamilton, OH-KY-IN CMSA 1,051,605 1,817,569 72.8% 1,920,931 82.7%
    18 Houston-Galveston-Brazoria, TX CMSA 919,767 3,731,029 305.6% 4,253,428 362.4%
    19 Providence-Fall River-Warwick, RI-MA MSA 897,500 1,134,350 26.4% 1,124,044 25.2%
    20 Kansas City, MO-KS MSA 814,357 1,582,874 94.4% 1,690,343 107.6%
    21 Atlanta, GA MSA 726,789 2,959,500 307.2% 3,541,230 387.2%
    22 Portland-Salem, OR-WA CMSA 704,829 1,793,476 154.5% 2,078,357 194.9%
    23 New Orleans, LA MSA 685,405 1,285,262 87.5% 1,312,890 91.5%
    24 Dayton-Springfield, OH MSA 630,303 951,270 50.9% 950,661 50.8%
    25 Denver-Boulder-Greeley, CO CMSA 612,128 1,980,140 223.5% 2,277,401 272.0%
    26 Norfolk-Virginia Beach-Newport News, VA-NC MSA 601,177 1,444,710 140.3% 1,540,252 156.2%
    27 Miami-Fort Lauderdale, FL CMSA 579,017 3,192,725 451.4% 3,514,403 507.0%
    28 Louisville, KY-IN MSA 576,900 949,012 64.5% 991,765 71.9%
    29 San Diego, CA MSA 556,808 2,498,016 348.6% 2,655,463 376.9%
    30 Indianapolis, IN MSA 551,777 1,380,491 150.2% 1,492,297 170.5%
    31 Columbus, OH MSA 503,410 1,345,450 167.3% 1,447,646 187.6%
    32 San Antonio, TX MSA 500,460 1,324,749 164.7% 1,490,111 197.7%
    33 Rochester, NY MSA 487,632 1,062,470 117.9% 1,088,037 123.1%
    34 Memphis, TN-AR-MS MSA 482,393 1,007,306 108.8% 1,078,151 123.5%
    35 Grand Rapids-Muskegon-Holland, MI MSA 409,837 937,891 128.8% 1,015,099 147.7%
    36 Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL MSA 409,143 2,067,959 405.4% 2,199,231 437.5%
    37 Hartford, CT MSA 406,534 1,157,585 184.7% 1,144,574 181.5%
    38 Oklahoma City, OK MSA 392,439 958,839 144.3% 1,026,657 161.6%
    39 Salt Lake City-Ogden, UT MSA 358,214 1,072,227 199.3% 1,217,842 240.0%
    40 Greensboro--Winston-Salem--High Point, NC MSA 337,192 1,050,304 211.5% 1,141,238 238.5%
    41 Phoenix-Mesa, AZ MSA 331,770 2,238,498 574.7% 2,746,703 727.9%
    42 Nashville, TN MSA 321,758 985,026 206.1% 1,117,178 247.2%
    43 Jacksonville, FL MSA 304,029 906,727 198.2% 1,008,633 231.8%
    44 Sacramento-Yolo, CA CMSA 277,140 1,481,220 434.5% 1,632,133 488.9%
    45 Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill, NC MSA 238,089 858,485 260.6% 1,025,253 330.6%
    46 Charlotte-Gastonia-Rock Hill, NC-SC MSA 197,052 1,162,140 489.8% 1,321,068 570.4%
    47 Austin-San Marcos, TX MSA 160,980 846,227 425.7% 1,041,330 546.9%
    48 Orlando, FL MSA 141,833 1,224,844 763.6% 1,417,291 899.3%
    49 West Palm Beach-Boca Raton, FL MSA 114,688 863,503 652.9% 992,840 765.7%
    50 Las Vegas, NV-AZ MSA 48,289 852,646 1665.7% 1,201,073 2387.3%

    50 Largest US Metropolitan Areas in 1996: Population Change from 1950
    By Population Increase from 1950
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    Metropolitan Area 1950 1990 Change from 1950 1996 Change from 1950
    1 Las Vegas, NV-AZ MSA 48,289 852,646 1665.7% 1,201,073 2387.3%
    2 Orlando, FL MSA 141,833 1,224,844 763.6% 1,417,291 899.3%
    3 West Palm Beach-Boca Raton, FL MSA 114,688 863,503 652.9% 992,840 765.7%
    4 Phoenix-Mesa, AZ MSA 331,770 2,238,498 574.7% 2,746,703 727.9%
    5 Charlotte-Gastonia-Rock Hill, NC-SC MSA 197,052 1,162,140 489.8% 1,321,068 570.4%
    6 Austin-San Marcos, TX MSA 160,980 846,227 425.7% 1,041,330 546.9%
    7 Miami-Fort Lauderdale, FL CMSA 579,017 3,192,725 451.4% 3,514,403 507.0%
    8 Sacramento-Yolo, CA CMSA 277,140 1,481,220 434.5% 1,632,133 488.9%
    9 Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL MSA 409,143 2,067,959 405.4% 2,199,231 437.5%
    10 Atlanta, GA MSA 726,789 2,959,500 307.2% 3,541,230 387.2%
    11 San Diego, CA MSA 556,808 2,498,016 348.6% 2,655,463 376.9%
    12 Houston-Galveston-Brazoria, TX CMSA 919,767 3,731,029 305.6% 4,253,428 362.4%
    13 Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill, NC MSA 238,089 858,485 260.6% 1,025,253 330.6%
    14 Dallas-Fort Worth, TX CMSA 1,136,144 4,037,282 255.3% 4,574,561 302.6%
    15 Denver-Boulder-Greeley, CO CMSA 612,128 1,980,140 223.5% 2,277,401 272.0%
    16 Nashville, TN MSA 321,758 985,026 206.1% 1,117,178 247.2%
    17 Salt Lake City-Ogden, UT MSA 358,214 1,072,227 199.3% 1,217,842 240.0%
    18 Greensboro--Winston-Salem--High Point, NC MSA 337,192 1,050,304 211.5% 1,141,238 238.5%
    19 Jacksonville, FL MSA 304,029 906,727 198.2% 1,008,633 231.8%
    20 Los Angeles-Riverside-Orange County, CA CMSA 4,819,599 14,531,529 201.5% 15,495,155 221.5%
    21 San Antonio, TX MSA 500,460 1,324,749 164.7% 1,490,111 197.7%
    22 Seattle-Tacoma-Bremerton, WA CMSA 1,120,448 2,970,300 165.1% 3,320,829 196.4%
    23 Portland-Salem, OR-WA CMSA 704,829 1,793,476 154.5% 2,078,357 194.9%
    24 Columbus, OH MSA 503,410 1,345,450 167.3% 1,447,646 187.6%
    25 Hartford, CT MSA 406,534 1,157,585 184.7% 1,144,574 181.5%
    26 Indianapolis, IN MSA 551,777 1,380,491 150.2% 1,492,297 170.5%
    27 Oklahoma City, OK MSA 392,439 958,839 144.3% 1,026,657 161.6%
    28 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose, CA CMSA 2,531,314 6,249,881 146.9% 6,605,428 160.9%
    29 Norfolk-Virginia Beach-Newport News, VA-NC MSA 601,177 1,444,710 140.3% 1,540,252 156.2%
    30 Washington-Baltimore, DC-MD-VA-WV CMSA 2,869,488 6,726,395 134.4% 7,164,519 149.7%
    31 Grand Rapids-Muskegon-Holland, MI MSA 409,837 937,891 128.8% 1,015,099 147.7%
    32 Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN-WI MSA 1,151,053 2,538,776 120.6% 2,765,116 140.2%
    33 Memphis, TN-AR-MS MSA 482,393 1,007,306 108.8% 1,078,151 123.5%
    34 Rochester, NY MSA 487,632 1,062,470 117.9% 1,088,037 123.1%
    35 Kansas City, MO-KS MSA 814,357 1,582,874 94.4% 1,690,343 107.6%
    36 Cleveland-Akron, OH CMSA 1,465,511 2,859,644 95.1% 2,913,430 98.8%
    37 New Orleans, LA MSA 685,405 1,285,262 87.5% 1,312,890 91.5%
    38 Cincinnati-Hamilton, OH-KY-IN CMSA 1,051,605 1,817,569 72.8% 1,920,931 82.7%
    39 Louisville, KY-IN MSA 576,900 949,012 64.5% 991,765 71.9%
    40 Boston-Worcester-Lawrence, MA-NH-ME-CT CMSA 3,456,063 5,455,403 57.9% 5,563,475 61.0%
    41 Detroit-Ann Arbor-Flint, MI CMSA 3,421,766 5,187,171 51.6% 5,284,171 54.4%
    42 Milwaukee-Racine, WI CMSA 1,066,533 1,607,183 50.7% 1,642,658 54.0%
    43 Dayton-Springfield, OH MSA 630,303 951,270 50.9% 950,661 50.8%
    44 St. Louis, MO-IL MSA 1,719,288 2,492,348 45.0% 2,548,238 48.2%
    45 Philadelphia-Wilmington-Atlantic City, PA-NJ-DE-MD CMSA 4,071,814 5,893,019 44.7% 5,973,463 46.7%
    46 New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-CT-PA CMSA 14,018,852 19,549,649 39.5% 19,938,492 42.2%
    47 Providence-Fall River-Warwick, RI-MA MSA 897,500 1,134,350 26.4% 1,124,044 25.2%
    48 Chicago-Gary-Kenosha, IL-IN-WI CMSA 6,869,699 8,239,820 19.9% 8,599,774 25.2%
    49 Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY MSA 1,089,230 1,189,340 9.2% 1,175,240 7.9%
    50 Pittsburgh, PA MSA 2,213,236 2,394,811 8.2% 2,379,411 7.5%

http://www.demographia.com/dm-usmet-fr50.htm
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Miami is less than 36 square miles. The urban area is 1279 square miles (one of the geographically smallest of the major metros). Miami makes up less than 3% of the land area. Even smaller % of the MSA or CSA.
Just to put that into perspective Miami's Urban Area is almost half of that of Atlanta's.
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Docere, what is the top 50 from 1940 if you include Canadian cities. Where do Winnipeg, Ottawa, and Hamilton fit in. Did Edmonton make the cut?
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Metropolitan districts have been set up for use in the 1940 Census of Population in connection with each city of 50,000 or more, two or more such cities sometimes being in one district. The general plan is to include in the district, in addition to the central city or cities, all contiguous and minor civil divisions having a population of 150 or more per square mile. In some metropolitan districts, a few less densely populated contiguous divisions are included on the basis of special qualifications.
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but what the fuck pittsburgh? sleeper of sleepers. i always thought of pittsburgh / metro pittsburgh as similar in size to st louis at that pre-war zenith of the midwest/interior but it has OVER HALF A MILLION more people which back then meant a lot more than today.
Pittsburgh amazes me how quickly it grew, then declined and somehow the city still isn't growing when by most metrics it should be growing like Buffalo and Cincinnati are again.

I would love to see Pittsburgh with 400k plus again. Can only imagine how exciting it must have been with almost 700k in the city (aside from the sky darkening pollution levels at the time).
Pittsburgh has such amazing bones and is very interesting with the topography and location with the convergence of three rivers at the point.

Because of the dense cluster of buildings downtown in the wedge/triangle, the inner city feels much larger than say Cleveland or other peer cities.

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Miami is less than 36 square miles. The urban area is 1279 square miles (one of the geographically smallest of the major metros). Miami makes up less than 3% of the land area. Even smaller % of the MSA or CSA.
Amazing the Miami city limits are so tiny (a few square miles smaller than Buffalo for instance), yet it's been growing very rapidly for the past what 20 years?
Pretty soon there will be 500,000 in those tiny 36sq miles.
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Docere, what is the top 50 from 1940 if you include Canadian cities. Where do Winnipeg, Ottawa, and Hamilton fit in. Did Edmonton make the cut?
Vancouver (377,000) and Winnipeg (300,000) were in the top 50 in 1940/41.
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Top 10 Canadian metro areas, 1941

Montreal 1,145,282
Toronto 909,928
Vancouver 377,447
Winnipeg 299,923
Ottawa 226,290
Quebec 224,756
Hamilton 197,732
Windsor 123,973
Edmonton 97,842
Calgary 93,021

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Vancouver (377,000) and Winnipeg (300,000) were in the top 50 in 1940/41.
Sorry I should have asked if you could redo the list and slot all of the Canadian Metros in.
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Metropolitan areas, 1940, 90,000+

1. New York 11,690,520
2. Chicago 4,499,126
3. Los Angeles 2,904,596
4. Philadelphia 2,898,644
5. Boston 2,350,514
6. Detroit 2,295,867
7. Pittsburgh 1,994,060
8. San Francisco 1,428,525
9. St. Louis 1,367,977
10. Cleveland 1,214,943
11. Montreal 1,145,282
12. Baltimore 1,046,692
13. Minneapolis-St. Paul 911,077
14. Toronto 909,928
15. Washington 907,816
16. Buffalo 857,719
17. Milwaukee 790,336
18. Cincinnati 789,309
19. Providence 711,500
20. Kansas City 634,693
21. Scranton-Wilkes Barre 629,581
22. New Orleans 540,030
23. Houston 510,397
24. Hartford 502,193
25. Indianapolis 455,397
26. Seattle 452,639
27. Atlanta 442,294
28. Louisville 434,308
29. Albany-Schenectady 431,575
30. Rochester 411,970
31. Birmingham 407,851
32. Portland 406,406
33. Springfield, Mass. 394,623
34. Denver 384,372
35. Vancouver 377,447
36. Dallas 376,548
37. Youngstown 373,428
38. Columbus 365,796
39. Akron 349,705
40. Toledo 341,663
41. Haverhill-Lawrence-Lowell 334,969
42. Memphis 332,477
43. Norfolk 330,396
44. Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton 325,142
45. San Antonio 319,010
46. New Haven 308,228
47. Worcester 306,194
48. Winnipeg 299,923
49. Omaha 287,698
50. Fall River-New Bedford 272,648
51. Dayton 271,512
52. Syracuse 258,353
53. San Diego 256,368
54. Miami 250,537
55. Richmond 245,674
56. Nashville 241,769
57. Ottawa 226,290
58. Quebec 224,756
59. Oklahoma City 221,229
60. Bridgeport 216,621
61. Grand Rapids 209,873
62. Tampa-St. Petersburg 209,693
63. Fort Worth 207,677
64. Salt Lake City 204,488
65. Canton 200,352
66. Trenton 200,128
67. Hamilton 197,732
68. Utica 197,128
69. Wheeling 196,340
70. Jacksonville 193,619
71. Chattanooga 193,213
72. Wilmington 188,974
73. Tulsa 188,564
74. Flint 188,554
75. Des Moines 183,974
76. Reading 175,355
77. Davenport-Rock Island-Moline 174,995
78. Harrisburg 173,367
80. Huntington 170,979
81. Peoria 162,566
82. Sacramento 158,999
83. Duluth-Superior 157,099
84. Tacoma 156,018
85. Bay City-Saginaw 153,388
86. Knoxville 151,829
87. Johnstown 151,871
88. South Bend 147,022
89. Binghamton 145,156
90. Waterbury 144,822
91. Evansville 141,614
92. Spokane 141,370
93. Beaumont-Port Arthur 138,608
94. Charleston, W. Va. 136,332
95. Kenosha-Racine 135,075
96. Fort Wayne 134,385
97. Erie 134,039
98. Lancaster 132,027
99. San Jose 129,362
100. Wichita 127,308
101. Little Rock 126,724
102. Windsor 123,973
103. Phoenix 121,828
104. Savannah 117,970
105. El Paso 115,801
106. Mobile 114,906
107. Altoona 114,094
108. Charlotte 112,986
109. Hamilton-Middletown 112,696
110. Austin 106,193
111. Atlantic City 100,096
112. Charleston, S.C. 98,711
113. Edmonton 97,842
114. Fresno 97,504
115. Calgary 93,021

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Calgary and Charlotte were smaller than Altoona? LOL. Altoona is one of those places where you get off the highway for gas and (if you're lucky) lunch. Calgary might have one of the biggest cores in North America, and Charlotte is arguably the #2 banking center in North America.
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Birmingham was larger than New Orleans?
No, looks like I was off. But it wasn't far behind, and it was basically even with Atlanta. How times have changed.
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