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Timmins didn't exist when the ON/QC border was decided in our region.
My point was the imaginary line didn't stop from french people moving into the region.
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Definition: "Social progress is the capacity of a society to meet the basic human needs of its citizens, establish the building blocks that allow citizens and communities to enhance and sustain the quality of their lives, and create the conditions for all individuals to reach their full potential." - Google

So we're number 7, in spite of all the terrible colonialist abuses we have existentially attributed to ourselves?
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Definition: "Social progress is the capacity of a society to meet the basic human needs of its citizens, establish the building blocks that allow citizens and communities to enhance and sustain the quality of their lives, and create the conditions for all individuals to reach their full potential." - Google

So we're number 7, in spite of all the terrible colonialist abuses we have existentially attributed to ourselves?
For all their flaws, the British did build a number of successful societies around the world. We've adopted much of their success and some might say we've actually improved on it.

That being said, we shouldn't use it as an excuse to ignore our failings.
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Definition: "Social progress is the capacity of a society to meet the basic human needs of its citizens, establish the building blocks that allow citizens and communities to enhance and sustain the quality of their lives, and create the conditions for all individuals to reach their full potential." - Google

So we're number 7, in spite of all the terrible colonialist abuses we have existentially attributed to ourselves?
Some of us are harder on ourselves than others!
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2021, 2:23 AM
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Some of us are harder on ourselves than others!
It can often be hard to tell if a place is unusually bad along some dimension or if the inhabitants are just unusually sensitive or negative.

If you think of Canada today versus past decades our sensitivity to a number of issues has gone way up, and the rhetoric has become more heated, but all the while the objective reality has almost certainly improved rather than regressed.
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It may be improving, but it's hard to be too self congratulatory when you have a substantial number of communities with anywhere from 5 to 15 people living in places like this...



Is there anything analogous to that in Denmark or Switzerland?
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Is there anything analogous to that in Denmark or Switzerland?
I din't know, does Denmark or Switzerland have any Gypsy encampments????
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2021, 4:27 AM
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It's conceivable that some areas of Denmark (Greenland) might have cheap and ugly prefab/modular housing, similar to what can be seen in the Canadian Arctic.
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Canada reached such a high ranking thanks to things like "Gender parity in secondary attainment" (ranked first) and "Equality of political power by gender" (ranked fourth). Our worst category was Environmental Quality where we ranked 36th.

Think it's a bit BS that we do so well on access to water and sanitation, but hey at least they recognized that our mobile telephone subscriptions are low.
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It may be improving, but it's hard to be too self congratulatory when you have a substantial number of communities with anywhere from 5 to 15 people living in places like this...



Is there anything analogous to that in Denmark or Switzerland?
This is 2 blocks from The Bow.
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Definition: "Social progress is the capacity of a society to meet the basic human needs of its citizens, establish the building blocks that allow citizens and communities to enhance and sustain the quality of their lives, and create the conditions for all individuals to reach their full potential." - Google

So we're number 7, in spite of all the terrible colonialist abuses we have existentially attributed to ourselves?
The real kicker is 1-6 did so by some of the most exclusionary/isolations policies in history. With the exception of the Sami/Maori non of those country possessed a disenfranchised social group, they all managed to stay out of the larger cluster fluffs in modern history etc.
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Some of us are harder on ourselves than others!
On a level that advocates a lets break it is clearly broken attitude.
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2021, 1:36 PM
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My point was the imaginary line didn't stop from french people moving into the region.
It was often a question of basic survival back then.

With that out of the equation, these days most francophones prefer to stay put in Quebec, even if the line is imaginary.

Or is it really that imaginary, in fact?
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This is 2 blocks from The Bow.
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This is 2 blocks from The Bow.
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This FN Reserve building actually looks unironically better built / more solid / less crooked than the infamous Wooden Shack A Few Blocks From The Bow
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2021, 4:52 PM
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It may be improving, but it's hard to be too self congratulatory when you have a substantial number of communities with anywhere from 5 to 15 people living in places like this...

Is there anything analogous to that in Denmark or Switzerland?
My post was less "rah-rah Canada" and more about the idea that we can't really tell what's going on from sentiment or anecdotes. Cue Statistics Canada with its "well-being index" for FN communities:
https://www.sac-isc.gc.ca/eng/134581.../1557323327644

Looks something like this:



(The communities are census divisions, basically municipalities or reserves. This is tracking places, not people. If you are indigenous and you move to Winnipeg for example you go in the non-FN community group.)

Lots of interesting breakdowns too. Some areas have been improving, others not so much.

Education stands out as the area with the most progress.




Surprising to me how well the territories do.


Employment actually worse over time.


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^ The situation has improved, no question there. But the gaps are still quite pronounced. And it is tough for Canada to lay claim to the pinnacle of human development rankings when it's up against countries that don't have these types of poor, isolated, often socially-troubled settlements.

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This FN Reserve building actually looks unironically better built / more solid / less crooked than the infamous Wooden Shack A Few Blocks From The Bow
That's because the reserve house is probably 25 years old vs. the 100 year old Calgary house.
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The Great Arctic Outbreak of February 1899

With all the cold weather brouhaha in Texas and other US states, it’s easy to think this is something new, it’s not. Long before the “polar vortex” become another cliche word of climate change, there was the “Great Arctic Outbreak”. While the story is about unseasonably cold weather in America, the map shows temperature lines for parts of Canada, -40’s for Alberta and Saskatchewan, -50 F for Manitoba, -20 F for Toronto, below 0 F for Vancouver. That’s brisk baby!

Over 115 years ago, a cold wave that would become known as the “Great Arctic Outbreak” took the United States by storm. People across the nation braced for the worst as temperatures plummeted throughout the first two weeks of February 1899. The western third of the country was the first to feel the bitter cold with temperatures dropping as low as 33°F in Los Angeles, California, 9°F in Portland, Oregon, and −9°F in Boise, Idaho, by February 4. And, by February 6, 30°F temperatures and below had made their way across the country and as far south as North Carolina.

However, the full force of the outbreak wasn’t felt until February 10, when some of the coldest winter weather conditions on record struck the eastern two-thirds of the United States. That day, temperatures across the Midwest and Ohio Valley were below −20°F, and even Washington, DC, recorded a low temperature of −8°F. By February 11, temperatures plummeted even further with Fort Logan, Montana, recording an astonishing low of −61°F. Even Florida couldn’t escape the bitter cold, and temperatures fell to the all-time state record low of −2°F in Tallahassee on February 13.



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So we're number 7, in spite of all the terrible colonialist abuses we have existentially attributed to ourselves?
Maybe not in spite but rather because, among many other things ?
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