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Old Posted Jun 6, 2013, 4:10 AM
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Amazing! Never seen such a detailed view of the DPRK.
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2013, 4:39 AM
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Helluva WOW. It seems so incredibly...barren there. White and gray, austere, cheerless, straight, hard, cold landscape.

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Old Posted Jun 6, 2013, 9:04 AM
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This thread might be historic, and not just on SSP. Has there ever been such an in-depth photographic exposé of modern NK before this? Amazing stuff.
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2013, 2:12 AM
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Great pictures! You've shown more of North Korea than I have seen of it from anywhere else, including the major news companies like CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox, et al.
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2013, 5:41 PM
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2013, 11:35 PM
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In my 10+ years on SSP, this is absolutely among the most captivating and engaging of photo threads I have seen.

she's cute! It was nice to suddenly scroll down to a warm friendly face after seeing image after image of coldness. Thanks for posting.
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Old Posted Jun 8, 2013, 10:19 PM
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This is awesome! Lately, I've had this huge fascination with North Korea, specifically for reasons of isolation and totalitarianism. What a way to feed my interests! You make me want to go. Thank you!
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Old Posted Jun 9, 2013, 12:18 AM
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Old Posted Jun 9, 2013, 1:04 AM
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This thread is simply astonishing! This is one of those threads that you just don't want to end!
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Old Posted Jun 9, 2013, 4:22 AM
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Simply one of the best threads i've seen on SSP, i love how you captured that monsoon-soaked summer humidity with the stained concrete and dripping shirts.
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2013, 4:05 PM
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Oh wow how did I miss this, fantastic. What an experience to have been there!
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2013, 5:07 PM
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Extremely interesting collection of photos, on one of the most mysterious places anywhere. What a fantastic opportunity. One of the most interesting-ever SSP threads. Easily the best-ever photos of North Korea that I have ever seen, and I have long been fascinated by the place (also, I happened to have an ethnic-Korean wife). Alas, I only got to Pammunjon and the DMZ when I visited SK in 2006.
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2013, 9:30 PM
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Incredible photos. Every one of your photo threads is a must-see.
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Excellent pics!!
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this thread should be "sticky-ed" for a month
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2013, 6:45 PM
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You know to be perfectly honest, NK doesn't look nearly as bad as I expected. There are lots of places in the world that seem poorer, dirtier, and more run down. Granted perhaps your guides took you to the better places and better vantage points.

Also, the devil's advocate in me says that it's hard to judge people's feelings from a photo. I have a screensaver on my work computer of a street scene of Broadway in Soho NY. I just noticed that out of the many people in the photo, just by chance no one is smiling or laughing. So are they all depressed and worn down? And I remember reading an old NY times article from like 1990 as a little research project about Korean green grocers in NY, back then they had a reputation of coming across as rude and gruff because they didn't smile and didn't look customers in the eye. But that was just a cultural thing.

I myself would be depressed as hell to live in North Korea. But people are people and they find reasons to feel happy and feel sad in all kinds of living situations. Especially if they grew up in those situations and that's all they know.
I agree with all your points. I'm surprised at the number of people who feel that the people look down-trodden and down from a photograph. My guess is that some SSPers are transposing their feelings about the regime and country onto the photograph and I wonder how people would feel had they not known the country. It would be interesting to show these pictures to people who didn't know where it was and ask their opinion.

I have friends who lived in Haiti for a number of years and friends who linved in Rwanda. Those places have both had their share of horrible things happen (politically, not talking about natural disasters). Some comments from them are that the people in Haiti, for example, have a wonderful cheerfulness about them, despite being in a dire situation and abject poverty. It's hard to believe Dominican Republic and Haiti are the same island. He also said that he found when he returned to Canada, that people are so stressed and preoccupied with life here that there are fewer smiles here and more positivity in Haiti. They are content with less, and as a result have fewer worries. They care about the needs and don't worry about the "wants." "Too often", he said, "we confuse wants with needs."

Also culturally, some people don't smile for photographs... it's a learned or taught behaviour... usually copying the photographer. Check out photos from the birth of photography time period. Stern, serious, faces. We've been conditioned from birth from advertising, billboards, TV that when your picture is being recorded you should smile... whether you feel like it or not.

As giallo mentioned, you have to weigh the pros and cons of visiting and "supporting" the regime, you also have to remember that these are all part of the same human family. Essentially, genetically, you're related to them if you go back enough centuries.

Beautifully human shots, giallo. The place seems very clean and you've really made North Korea more human to me and less abstract.
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This thread is flat out awesome. Not only were you able to capture something soo rarely seen in our world today...you did a great job of it too! Lovely composition on the photos!
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2013, 10:08 PM
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This thread has become an SSP classic.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2013, 10:15 PM
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Wonderful thread. Thanks for sharing that.

Some of scenes of that place don't seem so bad. Some of the people look genuinely happy, too. And even some of those highrises look fairly new.
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Amazing thread about the most unseen country on this forum! It really seems there are no cars on the streets.
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