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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 4:27 PM
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We'll see how Canada's R value fares when an additional 30% of the population can you know, go sit inside a restaurant for the first time in a year.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 4:31 PM
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We'll see how Canada's R value fares when an additional 30% of the population can you know, go sit inside a restaurant for the first time in a year.
Unlike Europe or the US, Ontario is opening up in-door dining with 80% / 58% (12+) vaccinated with 1 dose / 2 doses.
If cases do go up, I can see the Ontario government making vaccines mandatory for a bunch of people, ie health works and attending high school and Universities,

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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 4:40 PM
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Which is great, but there is still the remaining 20% that are going to enjoy the same increased freedoms as the rest of us and undoubtedly cases are going to rise among that group. As long as they don't overflow hospital beds the R value increasing past 1.0 shouldn't be a big deal.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 4:45 PM
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Which is great, but there is still the remaining 20% that are going to enjoy the same increased freedoms as the rest of us and undoubtedly cases are going to rise among that group. As long as they don't overflow hospital beds the R value increasing past 1.0 shouldn't be a big deal.
we will see, but other provinces with equality high vaccination rates says the r value will still stay below 1.0. this would prove that 80% first dose for 12 and up is the level for herd immunity though
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I wish we'd do that. You don't HAVE TO get vaccinated unless you want a life beyond your home and the outdoors.
It's starting to happen in NYC. Some nightlife places require that you be vaccinated now to patronize, and some actually have bouncers check your Excelsior pass at the door.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 5:00 PM
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It's starting to happen in NYC. Some nightlife places require that you be vaccinated now to patronize, and some actually have bouncers check your Excelsior pass at the door.
What if you don't live in New York? I was just there a week or so ago and plan on going back a couple more times this year alone. Texas flat out refuses to issue a similar 'pass' and is actually passing legislation to ban business from requiring proof of vaccination.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 5:08 PM
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Texas flat out refuses to issue a similar 'pass' and is actually passing legislation to ban business from requiring proof of vaccination.
That's so comical; Republicans always complain about "government overreach" yet they've been into legislating bans on abortion, gay marriage, etc. It just doesn't make any sense.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 5:12 PM
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I went to a spa in Koreatown (Los Angeles) last week for a massage, and I had to show proof of vaccination to be allowed in. Thankfully I had a photo of my vax card on my phone, and they accepted that as proof. I think it's a smart idea, at least for places like clubs, gyms, spas, etc.
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What if you don't live in New York? I was just there a week or so ago and plan on going back a couple more times this year alone. Texas flat out refuses to issue a similar 'pass' and is actually passing legislation to ban business from requiring proof of vaccination.
Follow the rules of the state you are in, and if there aren't any rules...then have fun. If you are gonna visit Yolo county in California please mask up! I could post the article, but some forumers might call it fear porn.
It's actually a warning from county authorities.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 5:23 PM
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I went to a spa in Koreatown (Los Angeles) last week for a massage, and I had to show proof of vaccination to be allowed in. Thankfully I had a photo of my vax card on my phone, and they accepted that as proof. I think it's a smart idea, at least for places like clubs, gyms, spas, etc.
That's good to know; I haven't been to a K-spa in quite a while. I like getting the body scrubs, and I can't imagine the workers wearing masks in such a wet environment. And I can't imagine having to wear a mask while getting a body scrub.

Was your massage therapist wearing a mask?
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 5:26 PM
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Follow the rules of the state you are in, and if there aren't any rules...then have fun.
If you are gonna visit Yolo county in California please mask up! I could post the article but forumers might call it fear porn, but it's actually a warning from county authorities.
You missed my point when you got sidetracked onto the rules tangent. Texas does not have a 'Lone Star' equivalent to an Excelsior pass. If I'm home visiting family or down in NYC, I would have no way of showing my proof of vaccination short of carrying my card around which is not recommended.

Btw, I think I'll pass on Yolo County.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 5:49 PM
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You missed my point when you got sidetracked onto the rules tangent. Texas does not have a 'Lone Star' equivalent to an Excelsior pass. If I'm home visiting family or down in NYC, I would have no way of showing my proof of vaccination short of carrying my card around which is not recommended.
Since it's a tangent, unfortunately, I'll have to say that Texas rules don't matter when you are visiting NY. You must sign up for a temp Excelsior pass.
Had it not been a tangent, then I'd have a nicer way to say it. I saw the point though, but all you have to do is sign up when you visit.
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Btw, I think I'll pass on Yolo County.
Fauci said that this might happen, that there would be localized mandates. Now that there are...pandoras box has been opened.
^that was being nice
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 6:01 PM
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Since it's a tangent, unfortunately, I'll have to say that Texas rules don't matter when you are visiting NY. You must sign up for a temp Excelsior pass.
Had it not been a tangent, then I'd have a nicer way to say it. I saw the point though, but all you have to do is sign up when you visit.

Fauci said that this might happen, that there would be localized mandates. Now that there are...pandoras box has been opened.
^that was being nice
Again, I am a Texas resident; it only applies to NY residents or people who were vaccinated in NYS. Plus it's voluntary, not a rule. No one in my family up there even bothered registering for one.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 6:18 PM
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California has a digital QR code for proof of vaccination. Nobody has asked me for it yet, but I've got it if/when they do.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 6:20 PM
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Again, I am a Texas resident; it only applies to NY residents or people who were vaccinated in NYS. Plus it's voluntary, not a rule. No one in my family up there even bothered registering for one.
The way you describe it, it seems that it would just be residents. Either exempt with Texas ID or some sort of temp pass for travel.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 6:21 PM
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In the European Union, we have a QR code as proof.
EU Digital COVID Certificate.

https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-...-the-data-safe

It also includes the Non EU countries but there are integrated with the Union like Switzerland, Norway, even Iceland.
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That's good to know; I haven't been to a K-spa in quite a while. I like getting the body scrubs, and I can't imagine the workers wearing masks in such a wet environment. And I can't imagine having to wear a mask while getting a body scrub.

Was your massage therapist wearing a mask?
The therapist was, yes. But I didn't wear one. I don't know if the people doing the scrubs were wearing them, but I agree that would be kind of crazy in such a wet environment.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 6:29 PM
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You missed my point when you got sidetracked onto the rules tangent. Texas does not have a 'Lone Star' equivalent to an Excelsior pass. If I'm home visiting family or down in NYC, I would have no way of showing my proof of vaccination short of carrying my card around which is not recommended.

Btw, I think I'll pass on Yolo County.
Just take a picture of your vaccination card and keep it on your phone.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 7:16 PM
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So the one and only person I know in my circle of friends and family that has not been fully vaccinated, finally decided to get the jab. She went with Pfizer. From check-in to jab, it took all of 5 minutes of time plus the mandatory 15 minutes of waiting time post jab to make sure there aren't any medical issues.

Not that it matters, but this person is a female and an immigrant that is highly suspicious and cautious of anything being injected in her body. She waited, did her due diligence on the subject and came to the conclusion that the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the risks.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2021, 8:23 PM
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Just take a picture of your vaccination card and keep it on your phone.
I do.
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