How Is Covid-19 Impacting Life in Your City? - Page 345

TWAK · #**6881** Posted **Jul 8, 2021, 10:28 PM**

Seems like some of you are scared (fear porn accepted) that there will be another round of shutdowns and masks from the variants, and I would like to see how some of you react going back on lockdown. What will you do then? Ask for the manager of the lockdowns?

iheartthed · #**6882** Posted **Jul 8, 2021, 10:32 PM**

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Are you saying the CDC can't track the total number of American deaths? And are you saying that of those deaths, Covid isn't being detected?

Cause of death is reported individually by states, not the CDC. There is no single standard for attributing cause of death due to COVID. The CDC just aggregates the data that states have provided them.

Camelback · #**6883** Posted **Jul 8, 2021, 10:41 PM**

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Cause of death is reported individually by states, not the CDC. There is no single standard for attributing cause of death due to COVID. The CDC just aggregates the data that states have provided them.

Ok. And what? You're in denial about the CDC stats on Covid deaths with kids? I don't understand why you're trying to muddy the picture here.

Covid is not dangerous to kids. It is exceptionally rare for a kid to die from Covid. We all know it.

TWAK · #**6884** Posted **Jul 8, 2021, 10:50 PM**

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Ok. And what? You're in denial about the CDC stats on Covid deaths with kids? I don't understand why you're trying to muddy the picture here.

It's pretty muddy already with deaths being the only qualifier for parents as "dangerous". It wouldn't be as muddy if you talked about long-covid or other things that can impact children if they get covid.

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Covid is not dangerous to kids. It is exceptionally rare for a kid to die from Covid. We all know it.

Terrible idea telling parents this...
You will not win, especially if there is even the slightest threat of anything bad for the kids. For example...losing the sense of taste. You can tell the parents "it's fine", but their kid still has no sense of taste.

10023 · #**6885** Posted **Jul 8, 2021, 10:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by TWAK

Seems like some of you are scared (fear porn accepted) that there will be another round of shutdowns and masks from the variants, and I would like to see how some of you react going back on lockdown. What will you do then? Ask for the manager of the lockdowns?

Ignore the rules. Or move permanently to a place that doesn’t do lockdowns.

TWAK · #**6886** Posted **Jul 8, 2021, 11:04 PM**

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Ignore the rules.

Can I do this for enforcement? I could even carry masks around just in case I see people not wearing them

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I would obviously follow mask rules, but not the physical assaulting ones. I'm picking a different one to ignore but it's basically the same thing.

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Or move permanently to a place that doesn’t do lockdowns.

That would be the American way.

iheartthed · #**6887** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 12:16 AM**

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Ok. And what? You're in denial about the CDC stats on Covid deaths with kids? I don't understand why you're trying to muddy the picture here.

My point is that the official tally is pretty meaningless if you're trying to understand the true scope. We know that the actual mortalities from COVID are much higher than the official tally.

xzmattzx · #**6888** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 1:53 AM**

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I can't wait for Mu! Sounds cool. I got infected with MU!

I'm looking forward to Pi. Is it a letter or a number?

the urban politician · #**6889** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 1:57 AM**

^ The Pi variant will actually be a friendly variant. It will give you super powers. You’ll turn into The Flash and be imbued with the speed force

JManc · #**6890** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 3:39 AM**

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Ignore the rules. Or move permanently to a place that doesn’t do lockdowns.

The US won't tolerate more lockdowns and are largely done with masks. I see very few people wearing them. Even in places like Vermont and Massachusetts.

Pedestrian · #**6891** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 3:51 AM**

The variants may be a joke to some of you but Wall Street started panicing today at the possibility that the business renaissance could be slowed or halted due to the delta strain.

JManc · #**6892** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 4:21 AM**

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The variants may be a joke to some of you but Wall Street started panicing today at the possibility that the business renaissance could be slowed or halted due to the delta strain.

It doesn't take much to panic Wall Street; it's merely reacting to the hysteria fed by the media over the delta variant.

Camelback · #**6893** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 1:11 PM**

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It doesn't take much to panic Wall Street; it's merely reacting to the hysteria fed by the media over the delta variant.

If you watch financial news long enough, you will realize that there are stories (fake news?) that are planted to create a tizzy of sorts, causing a brief sell-off, which allows investors to go in and buy the dip for quick profits.

It looks like yesterday's Delta panic is over, futures are up pre opening bell.
The markets are near all-time highs, there are many other things that'll spook the market other than Delta (Delta has already subsided in India and other places that aren't vaccinated).

Bring on LAMBDA and MU!

dave8721 · #**6894** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 4:46 PM**

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The US won't tolerate more lockdowns and are largely done with masks. I see very few people wearing them. Even in places like Vermont and Massachusetts.

Indoors we are still at like 80% masked down here. Of course our vaccinated % is very low as well.

the urban politician · #**6895** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 5:13 PM**

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The variants may be a joke to some of you but Wall Street started panicing today at the possibility that the business renaissance could be slowed or halted due to the delta strain.

Wall St is about as feeble minded as you can get. Nothing rational or scientific about that crowd. They freak out over everything.

Scientific, rational discussions should never be impacted by the whims of a bunch of traders

Pedestrian · #**6896** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 5:25 PM**

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Wall St is about as feeble minded as you can get. Nothing rational or scientific about that crowd. They freak out over everything.

Scientific, rational discussions should never be impacted by the whims of a bunch of traders

You clearly know more than just about everybody on this subject. I invite you to continue to treat the financial professionals with contempt. They may be wrong but they will take you to the cleaners anyway.

Regardless, you are just on a crusade that conflicts with most people in your profession and every other profession with expertise on this subject so carry on.

Nite · #**6897** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 9:35 PM**

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I can't wait for Mu! Sounds cool. I got infected with MU!

I am partial to the Omicron variant
We should see it by the end of this year

iheartthed · #**6898** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 9:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by Camelback

If you watch financial news long enough, you will realize that there are stories (fake news?) that are planted to create a tizzy of sorts, causing a brief sell-off, which allows investors to go in and buy the dip for quick profits.

It looks like yesterday's Delta panic is over, futures are up pre opening bell.
The markets are near all-time highs, there are many other things that'll spook the market other than Delta (Delta has already subsided in India and other places that aren't vaccinated).

Bring on LAMBDA and MU!

While I agree with you regarding financial news (and news media in general) crying wolf, I'm not entirely sure that the economy is in the clear regarding COVID. Even if governments refrain from implementing lockdowns, a fast spreading or vaccine resistant variant could be a LOT of trouble for the economy. And if that happens, there will probably be less generous financial benefits for the people who lose work, which is probably what kept the economy afloat last year.

Pedestrian · #**6899** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 10:15 PM**

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While I agree with you regarding financial news (and news media in general) crying wolf, I'm not entirely sure that the economy is in the clear regarding COVID. Even if governments refrain from implementing lockdowns, a fast spreading or vaccine resistant variant could be a LOT of trouble for the economy. And if that happens, there will probably be less generous financial benefits for the people who lose work, which is probably what kept the economy afloat last year.

Nobody is arguing there are likely to be new lockdowns in the US. But most of the world hasn't been vaccinated to the degree the anglophone world and the EU have. And the delta variant is even causing new concern in China which has no hesitancy about locking down who and what it needs to.

If there are lockdowns in major US trading partners, it can hurt the US economy and that is the principle concern.

iheartthed · #**6900** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 10:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Nobody is arguing there are likely to be new lockdowns in the US. But most of the world hasn't been vaccinated to the degree the anglophone world and the EU have. And the delta variant is even causing new concern in China which has no hesitancy about locking down who and what it needs to.

If there are lockdowns in major US trading partners, it can hurt the US economy and that is the principle concern.

I know there are supply chain disruptions, but I'm personally not as concerned about potential lockdowns overseas affecting the U.S. economy as I am about a pullback in spending here in the U.S. affecting it. I think that is the most catastrophic situation that could occur, and it would be more likely to happen if there is a panic here regarding the virus and little support from the government.

As an example, the main reason that our airlines haven't all gone belly up is because the government stepped in to rescue them. If there is another severe slowdown in travel, I'm not sure that they'll get the same level of support.