PHILADELPHIA | Broad & Lombard | 552 FT | 43 FLOORS

[chimpskibot]

Originally Posted by Jayfar

Correct, it is. This isn’t a hearing for a variance, but the attorney will *try* to show that the zoning application wasn’t properly issued and that some aspect(s) of it isn’t by-right.

They are doing everything in their power to keep their view! Is this a challenge from symphony house residents?

[Jayfar]

Neither ZBA appeal was heard yesterday; both were continued without comment. I have no idea why.

Originally Posted by Jayfar

Reminder that the ZBA hearing of appeals against the issued zoning permits for 500-10 S Broad St is scheduled for next Tuesday morning, March 21st.

https://li.phila.gov/zba-appeals-cal...HA-2022-005001
https://li.phila.gov/zba-appeals-cal...HA-2022-005002

Do attend: https://www.phila.gov/departments/zo...blic-meetings/

[mcgrath618]

Originally Posted by Jayfar

Neither ZBA appeal was heard yesterday; both were continued without comment. I have no idea why.

Maybe classic “push it back until they just concede” tactic?

[Jayfar]

Originally Posted by Jayfar

Reminder that the ZBA hearing of appeals against the issued zoning permits for 500-10 S Broad St is scheduled for next Tuesday morning, March 21st.

https://li.phila.gov/zba-appeals-cal...HA-2022-005001
https://li.phila.gov/zba-appeals-cal...HA-2022-005002

Do attend: https://www.phila.gov/departments/zo...blic-meetings/

Originally Posted by Jayfar

Neither ZBA appeal was heard yesterday; both were continued without comment. I have no idea why.

These hearings had been re-calendared for July 18th, following the March continuance, but guess what?!? They weren’t heard July 18th — another continuance, possibly to October.

[Gatorade_Jim]

Originally Posted by Jayfar

These hearings had been re-calendared for July 18th, following the March continuance, but guess what?!? They weren’t heard July 18th — another continuance, possibly to October.

Hmm. Do you know what reason was given for the continuance?

[Jayfar]

Originally Posted by Gatorade_Jim

Hmm. Do you know what reason was given for the continuance?

No. Also don’t know the grounds for the appeals. Keep in mind these are 2 already-issued by-right zoning permits. The appeals are against the issuance of the permits.

It would be interesting if someone would make an appointment to review the appeal filings at ZBA’s offices, which I understand is a thing they allow, according to ZBA website. That’s the only way we’ll find out more before the eventual hearing.

[Redddog]

Originally Posted by Jayfar

No. Also don’t know the grounds for the appeals. Keep in mind these are 2 already-issued by-right zoning permits. The appeals are against the issuance of the permits.

It would be interesting if someone would make an appointment to review the appeal filings at ZBA’s offices, which I understand is a thing they allow, according to ZBA website. That’s the only way we’ll find out more before the eventual hearing.

Very strange. Trouble in River City?

[Gatorade_Jim]

Originally Posted by Jayfar

No. Also don’t know the grounds for the appeals. Keep in mind these are 2 already-issued by-right zoning permits. The appeals are against the issuance of the permits.

It would be interesting if someone would make an appointment to review the appeal filings at ZBA’s offices, which I understand is a thing they allow, according to ZBA website. That’s the only way we’ll find out more before the eventual hearing.

I'll give them a call next week and see if I can do that.

[kool-ski]

ZONING PERMIT
ZP-2023-011143

FOR THE RELOCATION OF LOT LINES TO CONSOLIDATE EIGHT (8) EXISTING DEEDED LOTS (PREMISES “A”: 508 S BROAD ST.), (PREMISES “B” 510 S BROARD ST.), ( 506 S BROAD ST.), (500-504 S BROAD ST.), (1414 LOMBARD), (1416 LOMBARD ST) ,(1418 LOMBARD), (1420 LOMBARD) , (INTO ONE (1) LOT (PARCEL-A)

https://eclipse.phila.gov/phillylmsp...ctId=649875265

[Zapatan]

Hell yea!

[Jayfar]

Originally Posted by kool-ski

ZONING PERMIT
ZP-2023-011143




https://eclipse.phila.gov/phillylmsp...ctId=649875265

But I’ll curb my enthusiasm until the previous two zoning permits make their way through the appeal process. The ZBA appeals against the issuance of the related 2022 zoning permits are still calendared — following two continuances — for November 15th.

https://li.phila.gov/zba-appeals-cal...HA-2022-005001

https://li.phila.gov/zba-appeals-cal...HA-2022-005002

A little more clarity in the Eclipse daily zoning report note:

ZP-2023-011143 Oct 23, 2023 500-10 S BROAD ST, Philadelphia, PA 19146-1696 PHILA AUTHORITY IND DEV 2
In connection with an approved project, ZP-2022-012487, ZP-2022-001507, but not yet constructed: 1. Consolidate/relocate lot lines to create 1 lot from 8 lots. Property and development are currently approved under a Unity of Use of the 8 lots into 1 zoning lot pursuant to ZP-2022-012487. Therefore, this lot consolidation will extinguish and replace the Unity of Use Zoning Permit. 3. As per submitted plans prepared by Phila. Dept of Streets/2nd Survey District, dated 9/05/2023 2. No changes to existing building heights, footprints; no proposed site improvements.

The big difference is that the unity of use in permit ZP-2022-012487 included the former charter school at 512-20 S. BROAD ST (Broad & South nwc), while this new lot consolidation permit does not. Unclear how this may affect the any basis for the appellants’ appeals of the existing permits.

[skyhigh07]

So, per a Naked Philly post today, things aren’t looking good…Anyone have any info on the discussions at the ZBA meeting?

“After our recent visit, it seems like the big plans at Broad & Lombard will be adjusted. Per comments just now on the ZBA meeting, the plans are being changed per a push from the neighbors at the nearby Symphony House. We anticipate seeing something smaller sadly soon.“

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by skyhigh07

So, per a Naked Philly post today, things aren’t looking good…Anyone have any info on the discussions at the ZBA meeting?

“After our recent visit, it seems like the big plans at Broad & Lombard will be adjusted. Per comments just now on the ZBA meeting, the plans are being changed per a push from the neighbors at the nearby Symphony House. We anticipate seeing something smaller sadly soon.“

Why listen to NIMBYs? That's unfortunate.

Are there any potential 500 footers in the pipeline for Philly aside from this one?

[PHLtoNYC]

Originally Posted by skyhigh07

So, per a Naked Philly post today, things aren’t looking good…Anyone have any info on the discussions at the ZBA meeting?

“After our recent visit, it seems like the big plans at Broad & Lombard will be adjusted. Per comments just now on the ZBA meeting, the plans are being changed per a push from the neighbors at the nearby Symphony House. We anticipate seeing something smaller sadly soon.“

Give me a break... Any sizable building will block South facing units. What is the alternative?
If the Symphony House residents are this concerned about previous views, then they should have picked a different location to buy. Insane if Goldenberg caves to their nonsense.

Originally Posted by Zapatan

Why listen to NIMBYs? That's unfortunate.

Are there any potential 500 footers in the pipeline for Philly aside from this one?

There are a handful of "potentials" but most are still conceptual or in very early stages of planning.

The most likely is 3001 JFK Blvd. The ~512' red block building to be developed by Brandywine.

[TK2001]

Originally Posted by Zapatan

Why listen to NIMBYs? That's unfortunate.

Are there any potential 500 footers in the pipeline for Philly aside from this one?

The tallest one that seems to be a go is 115 South 19th Street, last confirmed to be 611 feet tall.

Apparently residents in Symphony House are complaining about this...when Arthaus was built nearby just two years ago. Don't wanna block those lovely views of South Philly

[TempleGuy1000]

Originally Posted by TK2001

The tallest one that seems to be a go is 115 South 19th Street, last confirmed to be 611 feet tall.

Apparently residents in Symphony House are complaining about this...when Arthaus was built nearby just two years ago. Don't wanna block those lovely views of South Philly

They might miss what's happening in the Popeyes parking lot!

This fucking city man..

[Jayfar]

Originally Posted by skyhigh07

So, per a Naked Philly post today, things aren’t looking good…Anyone have any info on the discussions at the ZBA meeting?

“After our recent visit, it seems like the big plans at Broad & Lombard will be adjusted. Per comments just now on the ZBA meeting, the plans are being changed per a push from the neighbors at the nearby Symphony House. We anticipate seeing something smaller sadly soon.“

What Naked Philly post are you talking about? Link please. I see nothing about this from them today on their blog page, nor on the Naked Philly facebook page, unless it’s buried in a story about some other project (or perhaps they later withdrew their post).Last I had read the ZBAhearings were calendared for two different dates upcoming this spring.

[TK2001]

It was posted on Instagram, there (presumably) should be an article on their site shortly

https://www.instagram.com/p/C3ksJyUu...RudGVnMHhmaQ==

[Jayfar]

Looking closer, I see one of the 2 related appeals was scheduled for this morning. The other is still calendared for April 16, 2024.

https://li.phila.gov/zba-appeals-cal...S%20BROAD%20ST

[Jayfar]

Thanks TK. I didn’t think to check Naked Philly on instagram, because I almost always totally avoid instagram, as I find its interface awkward and generally unusable for my purposes

Originally Posted by TK2001

It was posted on Instagram, there (presumably) should be an article on their site shortly

https://www.instagram.com/p/C3ksJyUu...RudGVnMHhmaQ==