AUSTIN | ABIA Updates - Page 431

GoldenBoot · #**8601** Posted **Mar 28, 2023, 6:57 PM**

Looks like the west concourse gate expansion should begin in November 2023...with an expected delivery in late 2026.

https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/n...expansion.html

ILUVSAT · #**8602** Posted **Apr 4, 2023, 5:11 PM**

Apologies if this has already been reported...Hawaiian Airlines is increasing the AUS-HNL frequency from 3x-weekly to 4x-weekly from May 26 to August 18 (returning to 3x-weekly after that).

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29...operations-vp/

ATX2030 · #**8603** Posted **Apr 5, 2023, 2:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT

Apologies if this has already been reported...Hawaiian Airlines is increasing the AUS-HNL frequency from 3x-weekly to 4x-weekly from May 26 to August 18 (returning to 3x-weekly after that).

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29...operations-vp/

This info was provided upthread back in February.

JACKinBeantown · #**8604** Posted **Apr 5, 2023, 2:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT

Apologies if this has already been reported...Hawaiian Airlines is increasing the AUS-HNL frequency from 3x-weekly to 4x-weekly from May 26 to August 18 (returning to 3x-weekly after that).

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29...operations-vp/

Thanks. I always appreciate people posting information, even if it has been posted before. It makes it easier to find instead of needing to go back and look through multiple pages of replies to find what you're looking for. So once again, thanks.

ATX2030 · #**8605** Posted **Apr 10, 2023, 4:02 PM**

Airport Advisory Commission for April:

Envision render long term concourse development page 24 is interesting and renders beginning page 41 of west gate expansion.

https://services.austintexas.gov/edi....cfm?id=406143

AusTex · #**8606** Posted **Apr 10, 2023, 4:23 PM**

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Airport Advisory Commission for April:

Envision render long term concourse development page 24 is interesting and renders beginning page 41 of west gate expansion.

https://services.austintexas.gov/edi....cfm?id=406143

I found page 24 very interesting indeed. It shows an eventual 4 parallel concourses to the south. A possible 4 concourses is huge.

Novacek · #**8607** Posted **Apr 10, 2023, 4:29 PM**

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I found page 24 very interesting indeed. It shows an eventual 4 parallel concourses to the south. A possible 4 concourses is huge.

Do any of those not overlap with the current south terminal?

Maybe we should just build a different one to start, and let the lease run out.

We vs us · #**8608** Posted **Apr 10, 2023, 4:58 PM**

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I found page 24 very interesting indeed. It shows an eventual 4 parallel concourses to the south. A possible 4 concourses is huge.

On that slide they note that the AUS campus can accommodate from 60-80 million annual passengers.

According to wikipedia, DFW did 73.3M passengers in 2022. Atlanta Hartsfield did 93.6M. Denver did 69.2 M. In other words -- so long as demand holds -- we could essentially build ourselves out to be one of the busiest airports in the country.

drummer · #**8609** Posted **Apr 10, 2023, 9:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Novacek

Do any of those not overlap with the current south terminal?

Maybe we should just build a different one to start, and let the lease run out.

I've been wondering about that lately myself. It's a long lease, but it may be doable to work around it, even if not preferable. Based on the image on Slide 24, it seems that what I'll call Terminals 2 & 3 could be built at least to the east (top of image in its current orientation) and later expanded to the west (bottom). Terminal 4 may not be doable without resolving the traffic flow into the current South Terminal. Granted, this would be a huge undertaking to have essentially two half-terminals built, but at least the underground connector would be there for future expansions.

That said, it may be easier to just pay them off and move on. It was a dumb contract. But I don't envy those who have to make the decisions on how to proceed with anticipated growth and resolving this major past mistake.

That is cool to see the parallel layout. I'm glad to see them thinking more than ~10 years down the road and having to constantly play catch up.

ILUVSAT · #**8610** Posted **Apr 10, 2023, 10:12 PM**

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I've been wondering about that lately myself. It's a long lease, but it may be doable to work around it, even if not preferable. Based on the image on Slide 24, it seems that what I'll call Terminals 2 & 3 could be built at least to the east (top of image in its current orientation) and later expanded to the west (bottom). Terminal 4 may not be doable without resolving the traffic flow into the current South Terminal. Granted, this would be a huge undertaking to have essentially two half-terminals built, but at least the underground connector would be there for future expansions.

That said, it may be easier to just pay them off and move on. It was a dumb contract. But I don't envy those who have to make the decisions on how to proceed with anticipated growth and resolving this major past mistake.

That is cool to see the parallel layout. I'm glad to see them thinking more than ~10 years down the road and having to constantly play catch up.

Let's not confuse things...those are not "terminals." Those are concourses. Also, the current taxiways are being moved to accommodate the new Concourse B (BJT will be Concourse A). Their planned new location runs straight through the South Terminal.

Even though there was once an idea to create a completely new passenger terminal and concourse on the south side of the airport (similar to how ATL is set up), that idea was scrapped due to the incredibly high cost of such a project.

ABIA is going to have deal with their South Terminal issue to get the overall expansion underway.

ILUVSAT · #**8611** Posted **Apr 10, 2023, 10:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by We vs us

On that slide they note that the AUS campus can accommodate from 60-80 million annual passengers.

According to wikipedia, DFW did 73.3M passengers in 2022. Atlanta Hartsfield did 93.6M. Denver did 69.2 M. In other words -- so long as demand holds -- we could essentially build ourselves out to be one of the busiest airports in the country.

I'm happy to see that sort of vision for the future (no matter how far out it may be). Wow...I counted 150+ gates spread across four concourses. And, they have room to add more if necessary.

ATXboom · #**8612** Posted **Apr 10, 2023, 10:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Novacek

Do any of those not overlap with the current south terminal?

Maybe we should just build a different one to start, and let the lease run out.

I like your thinking!

agsatx88 · #**8613** Posted **Apr 11, 2023, 12:53 PM**

I for one just hope the mini moontower pictured in the west terminal infill project rendering sees itself through to the final build.

GoldenBoot · #**8614** Posted **Apr 11, 2023, 5:41 PM**

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I like your thinking!

Unless they redesign where the new cross taxiways are to be placed, this is not an option. Currently, they are planned to run straight through where the South Terminal sits today.

drummer · #**8615** Posted **Apr 11, 2023, 5:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT

Let's not confuse things...those are not "terminals." Those are concourses.

Good catch!

ATX2030 · #**8616** Posted **Apr 14, 2023, 3:15 PM**

Speedbird 191 heavy....

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https://twitter.com/AUStinAirport/st...852930/photo/1

LoneStarMike · #**8617** Posted **Apr 25, 2023, 5:01 AM**

February 2023 Passenger, Cargo Traffic at Austin-Bergstrom

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Austin-Bergstrom International Airport (AUS) passenger traffic growth for February 2023 was up 21.63% compared to February 2022 with 1,463,507 passengers flying during the month.

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Total passenger traffic for January – February 2023 was 2,970,563, up 29.12%, compared to January – February 2022.

Austin-Bergstrom International Airport
Aviation Activity Report

February 2023 International Passenger Totals - 56,211 up 63.69% from February 2022.

2023 YTD International Passenger Totals - 122,621 up 72.07 from 2022 YTD

ILUVSAT · #**8618** Posted **Apr 25, 2023, 4:11 PM**

Geez...ABIA is on pace to process 25-27 million in 2023. WOW!

chinchaaa · #**8619** Posted **Apr 25, 2023, 4:55 PM**

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Geez...ABIA is on pace to process 25-27 million in 2023. WOW!

how is this even possible? this would put it in top 5 busiest in the country. is that right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

ILUVSAT · #**8620** Posted **Apr 25, 2023, 4:58 PM**

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how is this even possible? this would put it in top 5 busiest in the country. is that right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

No. You're looking at enplanements (boardings). If ABIA has 25-27 million PAX in 2023 it would fall somewhere in the Top 20-23 range of busiest airports in the U.S. (by total number of passengers). It's currently #28.