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odinthor · #**59181** Posted **Sep 21, 2022, 9:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by riichkay

These are courtesy the hemmings.com automotive site, both are supposedly here in the city.....

A commentator on this pic at the hemmings.com site sees a white '59 Caddy waiting at the light upper right, presumably we are around that year.

I ran Western Camera in late '50's Yellow Pages in the central/western books, nothing turned up....we have a clue in the "7901" street number painted at the top of the building.

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Could it be 7901 Santa Monica Blvd. (at Fairfax), looking much different today? I used this angle because we can see the hill in the distance.

gsv

This location was Standard Camera in 1955:

LA Times, 5/15/1955.

riichkay · #**59182** Posted **Sep 21, 2022, 11:18 PM**

odinthor, I think you may have it, the profile of the hills seem to line up.

Here's the Ed Ruscha image of the corner from 1974....

acorn8332 · #**59183** Posted **Sep 21, 2022, 11:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by riichkay

Undated, but that's a '68 Sedan de Ville on the left, so likely late '60's...

Plenty of signage clues but I can't make them out, other than the traffic sign hanging over the street upper right that seems to read San Diego Fwy.

Santa Monica Blvd. & Sepulveda Blvd. looking Southwest? The Eastbound traffic looks to be splitting off to the Santa Monica Blvd. South roadway (which becomes Little Santa Monica Blvd. in Beverly Hills). Street light at the far right is typical of those found on Santa Monica Blvd. West of Beverly Hills before the major reconfiguration for the busway. The white sign on the same corner was commonly used when two numbered routes intersected: (Former) CA-7 for Sepulveda Blvd. and (Former US-66) for Santa Monica Blvd.?

Noir_Noir · #**59184** Posted **Sep 21, 2022, 11:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by odinthor

Could it be 7901 Santa Monica Blvd. (at Fairfax)

This location was Standard Camera in 1955:

LA Times, 5/15/1955.

Western Camera Supply appears in the directories for two years, 1961 & 1962, at 7901 Santa Monica Blvd.

rescarta.lapl.org

By 1963 they had moved a little east and across the boulevard to 7856.

odinthor · #**59185** Posted **Sep 22, 2022, 1:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by acorn8332

Santa Monica Blvd. & Sepulveda Blvd. looking Southwest? The Eastbound traffic looks to be splitting off to the Santa Monica Blvd. South roadway (which becomes Little Santa Monica Blvd. in Beverly Hills). Street light at the far right is typical of those found on Santa Monica Blvd. West of Beverly Hills before the major reconfiguration for the busway. The white sign on the same corner was commonly used when two numbered routes intersected: (Former) CA-7 for Sepulveda Blvd. and (Former US-66) for Santa Monica Blvd.?

I believe you're right, acorn8332.

Look at the three palms in the distance:

They're still there!:

gsv

They're at 1719 Beloit.

gsv

riichkay · #**59186** Posted **Sep 22, 2022, 6:42 AM**

Great work accorn8332....

Santa Monica & Sepulveda it is.....I lived in Westwood/Brentwood for 30 years (starting in 1979 when I was just up the street at Sepulveda/Ohio), I went through this intersection a thousand times, and just did not see it....suffice to say the corner changed mightily from the late '60's to the late '70's.

The light standard protruding on the foreground right is for the Mobil station that still stands....the photographer would have been perched on the rooftop of the building to the right, there's the light fixture...from the 1974 Ed Ruscha images...

More '74 Ruscha....

Here's the San Diego Fwy. sign....

The Shell station at the s.e. corner was a Texaco before its demise....

Here's the karate studio on the s.w. corner...

And the fast food place....

The Westwood Gateway office towers have occupied the s.w. corner since about 1980.

GaylordWilshire · #**59187** Posted **Sep 22, 2022, 11:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by Noir_Noir

That's Harry Carpenter's Drive-in that was at 3201 Wilshire Blvd. (NW corner with Vermont.)

Seen here in 1934 in this picture you posted in June of 2015 .

And to the right in this picture from 1948.

waterandpower.org

WHAT WAS THERE: Before commerce, there were houses on Wilshire, such as
641 S Vermont Avenue. It occupied the future site of Carpenter's at the nwc corner of
Wilshire and Vermont and is seen here as it was being demolished. More on the house here.

ethereal_reality · #**59188** Posted **Sep 22, 2022, 5:16 PM**

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. .a mystery location.

Skippy's Bar..Los Angeles...1933

eBay

I love this fun little drinking establishment. ..I take it that's Skippy behind the bar.

The details on the back are priceless. .

. .but he forgot to include the street address and the name of the bar. (Skippy's?)

Some details.

Skippy

the men in the mirror.

The drawings on the wall.

FDR!

What dis?

UPDATE

I just found a photograph of Skippy's larger establishment! I'll post it this afternoon or later tonight.

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Martin Pal · #**59189** Posted **Sep 22, 2022, 7:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by riichkay

odinthor, I think you may have it, the profile of the hills seem to line up.

Here's the Ed Ruscha image of the corner from 1974....

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A 1901 image looking north up Fairfax Ave. from Santa Monica Blvd. now West Hollywood.

Mackerm · #**59190** Posted **Sep 23, 2022, 2:21 AM**

The profile of the hills is similar to this one, taken south of La Brea and Sunset.

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Originally Posted by Mackerm

The Stanley Kubrick Archives compact edition, page 103.

ethereal_reality · #**59191** Posted **Sep 23, 2022, 2:47 AM**

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As promised, here is Skippy's larger bar that unfortunately broke his bank.

This time we have the name of the bar and the address!..

Globe Cocktail Lounge...1317 East seventh St....Los Angeles, Calif.

Jack Skippy . . To Greet You

Skippy is his last name! I certainly wasn't expecting that.

Let's take a closer look.

eBay

Obviously, a more serious drinking establishment. No cartoons on the wall. ...I prefer his smaller bar.

Reverse.

I feel bad that Skippy lost his dream.

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Noir_Noir · #**59192** Posted **Sep 23, 2022, 2:00 PM**

I don't think the Globe Cocktail Lounge would have been Jack's business.

1317 E. 7th was owned by the Globe Dairy Lunch Company who operated a number of bars, cafes and a bakery.

ladbsdoc.lacity.org

Today it houses the offices of the Skid Row Housing Trust.

GSV

I think the "work" he refers to on the back of the first beer parlor picture includes his barman job at the Globe Cocktail Lounge.

The two bars he owned were back around 1933 but I can only find a listing for him in 1937.

rescarta.lapl.org

This is the Produce Hotel and is just yards around the corner from the Globe Cocktail Lounge site.

GSV

ethereal_reality · #**59193** Posted **Sep 23, 2022, 4:53 PM**

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Noir Noir, this Globe menu from July 7, 1938 says the owner and operator is George Barraclough. . .and yet, much to my surprise, Jack Skippy signed the menu for someone named Lena.

Where to begin?

How 'bout here.

eBay

Now for the men's names. (Barraclough and Skippy)

eBay

I figured (wrongful, perhaps) that when Jack Skippy found himself in financial difficulties he sold his bar to George Barraclough.

. . .and here's Skippy's appearance on the menu.

eBay

I can't figure out why Jack Skippy would have signed the menu if he had nothing to do with place.

Just for fun let's take a closer look at the interior photograph.

Note that the address is 613 South Hill Street and not 1317 East Seventh Street.

. .and here's an example of the dinner choices.

. .and additional drink choices.

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sopas ej · #**59194** Posted **Sep 23, 2022, 6:14 PM**

I'm really trying to wrap my head around the prices; are those really all in cents?

Which is fine, but then, for example, you can get a bonded Old Fashioned for 35 cents, but then for only 20 cents more, you can get a whole roast sirloin?

These menus from the past really baffle me with the prices.

HossC · #**59195** Posted **Sep 23, 2022, 7:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Just for fun let's take a closer look at the interior photograph.

Note that the address is 613 South Hill Street and not 1317 East Seventh Street.

Here's the listing for the Globe Dairy Lunch Co from the 1937 CD. 613 South Hill Street seems to have been the office, but it's also listed as a restaurant location in other places/years.

[Globe] Dairy Lunch Co (G A Barraclough) office 613 S Hill restrs 629 S Olive, 1232 Produce ct, 418, 532 and 746½ S Spring, 248 Werdin pl, 116 W 3d, 118 W 4th and 1319 E 7th.

I think that the handwritten text above the interior picture says "Picture of one of our Bars Down town".

ethereal_reality · #**59196** Posted **Sep 23, 2022, 8:22 PM**

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I just had a flashback to a post from almost 10 years ago. (2013)

Barraclough's name is written in parenthesis after "Globe Coffee Shop". At the time I didn't know what it meant.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This is a very interesting photograph from the archive of a sign company.

http://www.federalheath.com/company-...r-past/?pid=13

note the instructions on the photo: place the new sign 9'3" above the sidewalk and give the old globe lamp to the owner.

I've looked & looked for a later photo showing the new signage to no avail. What I did find was this matchbook (below)

ebay

I had no idea it was a cocktail lounge as well.

SoCal1954 followed up with information on Barraclough, HERE

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Mstimc · #**59197** Posted **Sep 23, 2022, 10:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by acorn8332

Santa Monica Blvd. & Sepulveda Blvd. looking Southwest? The Eastbound traffic looks to be splitting off to the Santa Monica Blvd. South roadway (which becomes Little Santa Monica Blvd. in Beverly Hills). Street light at the far right is typical of those found on Santa Monica Blvd. West of Beverly Hills before the major reconfiguration for the busway. The white sign on the same corner was commonly used when two numbered routes intersected: (Former) CA-7 for Sepulveda Blvd. and (Former US-66) for Santa Monica Blvd.?

There's no shortage of VW bugs in this picture!

Earl Boebert · #**59198** Posted **Sep 23, 2022, 10:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mstimc

There's no shortage of VW bugs in this picture!

Plus the one of making a left turn is being followed by a Type 3

Cheers,

Earl

odinthor · #**59199** Posted **Sep 24, 2022, 4:52 AM**