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Old Posted May 25, 2022, 2:21 PM
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^that’s why it’s best to take the purple line to Belmont and then transfer to the redline.
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^that’s why it’s best to take the purple line to Belmont and then transfer to the redline.
Back when there was no guarantee of making a timely transfer at Belmont let alone getting a seat. But that was in the brave old 9 to 5 days. I guess it's different now...
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Not sure if this is the right place to post this but it's in the suburbs so I'll leave it here.

Sun-Times: ‘Cap the Ike’ still on town’s wish list despite cost and complexity
Oak Park has long kicked around the idea of building landscaped decks over parts of I-290 and there could finally be federal money to help it get started.
By David Roeder | Jun 13, 2022, 3:30am PDT

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An idea emerged several years ago to “cap the Kennedy,” or build a landscaped deck over portions of the Kennedy Expressway as it courses through downtown Chicago. The concept is still out there but with no funding source, grassroots advocacy or engineering studies to bolster it.

That could change if the federal government opens the taps for infrastructure money. It turns out, though, that a similar idea in the region might have a spot in line ahead of the Kennedy project. It comes from the village of Oak Park, which over some 20 years has discussed and analyzed plans for landscaped decks over parts of Interstate 290, the Eisenhower Expressway. Residents have voiced support for the plan, but they haven’t seen hard numbers about their share of the cost.
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2022, 2:21 AM
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^ it would be a big time coup if little old OP could get its stretch of the ike capped before the told bold slugger of Chicago can get the 8 billion times more obvious cap on the west loop Kennedy trench done.

This kinda shit is so fucking obvious. Even little soft sunbelt cities like Dallas have managed to figure it out.

Capping urban expressway trenches should not be rocket science, but we live in a very stupid society.
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2022, 2:41 AM
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^ Yeah agreed. IDOT has got to be one of the most stubborn (and corrupt) DOTs in the country, and that's saying something.

That said, a lot of these deck parks take advantage of redundant freeways. It's not safe to allow trucks carrying hazmat under a deck park or tunnel, so you have to provide an alternate route. If another freeway is not available, that means surface streets. I doubt Oak Parkers want hazmat trucks rolling past their homes...

Klyde Warren Park in Dallas, Hance Park/I-10 in Phoenix, I-696 outside Detroit, etc all ban hazmat. So do all mountain and underwater tunnels. Not sure how Hubbard's Cave is allowed, but IDOT has literally zero restrictions on hazmat in Illinois, except a few around Rockford.
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^ Yeah agreed. IDOT has got to be one of the most stubborn (and corrupt) DOTs in the country, and that's saying something.

That said, a lot of these deck parks take advantage of redundant freeways. It's not safe to allow trucks carrying hazmat under a deck park or tunnel, so you have to provide an alternate route. If another freeway is not available, that means surface streets. I doubt Oak Parkers want hazmat trucks rolling past their homes...

Klyde Warren Park in Dallas, Hance Park/I-10 in Phoenix, I-696 outside Detroit, etc all ban hazmat. So do all mountain and underwater tunnels. Not sure how Hubbard's Cave is allowed, but IDOT has literally zero restrictions on hazmat in Illinois, except a few around Rockford.

They capped 93 in Boston. Trucks can always use 294 as a bypass
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Old Posted Jun 15, 2022, 6:18 PM
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They capped 93 in Boston. Trucks can always use 294 as a bypass
Yes, and hazmat trucks in Boston use surface streets. The Big Dig has a wide surface boulevard above the tunnel (Atlantic/Cross) which Oak Park does not.

https://northendwaterfront.com/2011/...ity-of-boston/

Rerouting on 294 is a nice idea, but the City of Chicago is still a big industrial city and still contains a ton of businesses dealing in hazardous materials. Boston is a smaller/wealthier city and has fewer of those.
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It sure seems like the obvious solution is to tidy up hazmat restriction language to differentiate between a bored tunnel and a simple cap. Obviouly a highway capping isn't running for miles or even thousands of feet and much like a rail or vehicle tunnel requiring ventilation every 1000' feet, a hazmat vehicle should be able to travel through a capped highway under a certain length.
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Old Posted Jun 15, 2022, 6:47 PM
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Well, they just added a short 1000' cap on I-70 in Denver. I can't find any indication of a hazmat restriction. It may be possible to allow hazmat through a short tunnel if proper ventilation (jet fans, upgraded sprinkler system) are provided.

https://goo.gl/maps/Twewpu5vgY6xjVxB7
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I would think so, just count on USDOT to make it as difficult as possible.
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Highpoint at 8000 North in Skokie reaches 50% leased ahead of schedule

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The inner ring burbs stand to benefit a lot from the hybrid work model as people are more willing to trade a slightly longer commute while still maintaining proximity to the city.




Skokie has a Walkscore in the 80s, which puts it in something like the top 10% of suburbs. It’s not as walkable as it’s neighbor Evanston, but it’s not accurate to say people renting here won’t have places to walk to. It also has one of the better bike lane and path networks in the metro area.
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Homewood Inn Hotel & Suites Niles Ave. at Oakton is underway - finally Downtown Skokie will have its hotel.


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Glad to see Skokie becoming another urban burb.
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It took long enough!
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with yellow line access, no reason Skokie shouuldnt look like Evanston, Oak Park, or Forest Park. Love to see downtown growing now. Also would like to see some TOD around the yellow line stations.
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with yellow line access, no reason Skokie shouuldnt look like Evanston, Oak Park, or Forest Park. Love to see downtown growing now. Also would like to see some TOD around the yellow line stations.
Skokie is exactly like Forest Park, if you replace the cemeteries with postwar tract housing. The dense core around the rail lines is pretty similar in both towns. Neither town has really embraced highrise development like Evanston or Oak Park.
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Skokie is exactly like Forest Park, if you replace the cemeteries with postwar tract housing. The dense core around the rail lines is pretty similar in both towns. Neither town has really embraced highrise development like Evanston or Oak Park.
Yes true if you mean what was once the town of Niles Center - now 'Downtown Skokie' and its near surroundings. North of Dempster its like a separate city with Route 41 and 94 and the adjacent businesses and the residential areas near west Evanston more connected to the North Shore. Skokie has 65k residents after all. Strange comparison but like Downtown Los Angeles, Downtown Skokie will always be a neighborhood and never the center.
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