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Originally Posted by citywatch
Don't recall where I read that the brickell section of miami is a better version of dtla.
It's similar to the way that inland pasadena dispels the notion that DTLA has been hurt through the decades because it's so far away from the Pacific or a scenic body of water.
Ppl & cities are all in it to win it.
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Downtown Los Angeles has been struggling ever since they paved the river in the 1940’s. Downtown Miami is on a working river. Google: Miami River Downtown
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major city (Pasadena is not major) was established on the basis that there is some natural feature that gives reason or purpose to its location. Sometimes that natural feature is the source of water, sometimes its the source of a navigable waterway that is shielded in some way from the greater ocean, sometimes the natural feature is a source of protection and defense. When that natural feature intersects with a place humans are either traveling to or through, there lies a city. There are no major cities in the world where the central city is built right on the ocean or where there is no fresh water... its usually protected by a bay of some sort, or along a river that leads to the ocean, then there are beach cities and other smaller communities that radiate from there... (the Pasadenas and such)
Imagine if one day the Thames was paved over for a freeway and seeing "Big Ben" or the Tower Bridge and Palace of Westminster next to a mass of concrete. Would there be demand to live there the way it is today?? Sure, based off of the historical existence of the city, but it would not be as desirable and it might take longer to develop into a fully thriving place. This is Los Angeles' central city today
Los Angeles has forgotten the entire reason it exists and why it was founded at the location it was founded on. The River gives the city purpose and Life via fresh water and beauty.
The moment the Los Angeles river returns to a beautiful natural state will be the moment Los Angeles will have found itself again and downtown Los Angeles will be the center of the region with purpose. Until then... it will be the struggle bus for us as
there is no current reason for downtown to exist at the location that it is at... its all past-based
All of these major cities' downtowns (central cities); yes even the "coastal" ones, exist along a river or a body of water with a river feeding into it thereby giving their region a central city with purpose. Imagine any of these cities without their reason for existence... that thing being replaced with concrete
New York City - Hudson River to New York Harbor
London - Thames River to North Sea
Cairo - Nile River to the Sea
Miami - Miami River to Biscayne Bay
Rio de Janeiro - Self explanatory - English translation (River of January)
Shanghai - Huangpu River
Tokyo - Sumida River
Lagos - Adiyan River and tributaries Agboyi Creek to Lagos Harbor
Philadelphia - Deleware River
Houston - Buffalo Bayou and Whiteouk Bayou Rivers to Galveston Bay
Nairobi - Nairobi River
Chicago - Chicago River to Lake Michigan
Boston - Charles and Mystic Rivers to Boston Harbor
Rome - Tiber River to the Sea
Jacksonville, FL - St Johns River to the Atlantic Ocean
Dallas - Trinity River
Denver - Cherry Creek & South Plate Rivers
On to an update...
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Originally Posted by citywatch
Ppl tend to feel good about cities that are impressive or attractive...they react less positively towards cities that are not.
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We are saying the same thing, but you are using an old picture of DT and trying to address today's issue as if those buildings are still there. We've built the impressive buildings, structures and roads in the 1960's-1990's. That's not the missing link. Every downtown needs an attractive natural feature which LA does not have.