Do you think Regina's population will reach 250,000 by 2010?

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally Posted by BrannyMuffin

Well, depends on the strides they make toward the goal, I would imagine. It was a ridiculous goal in the first place, though. I'd be curious to know what the actual population is at right now? The census numbers we have are from last year, and I'd be willing to bet that those numbers are rising faster than they were before.

Branny,

At the the very most the increase is double at best, meaning 400 per year added, not the 200 from last census. Still far from being able to reach the "goal".

Using population growth of twice, an optimistic number, the 10 year average, brings us to 1,600 new residents by 2010 or close to 180,000 population. Missing the goal by 28%, if Fiacco was still at Direct West and missed his sales goals by nearly 30%, how long would he be in that job ?

[Migs]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

Fine but in any job, if goals are set out and not met by the employee. How long will stay employed ?

When you attain 11 of the 12 goals (in that link that you provided), methinks you are doing a good job. But we all know you'll spin it to make it seem like the end of the world that one of those 12 goals may not be reached. Your about as predictable as Rosie O'Donnell....

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally Posted by Migs

When you attain 11 of the 12 goals (in that link that you provided), methinks you are doing a good job. But we all know you'll spin it to make it seem like the end of the world that one of those 12 goals may not be reached. Your about as predictable as Rosie O'Donnell....

Tell me, how the other goals have been accomplished and give me some empirical evidence. The other ones are so vague that it is impossible. Also, if a salesperson has a goals of :

1) $200,000 in sales

2) Good customer service

3) Positive work attitude

4) Helpful to co-workers

5) Make friends at work

The salesperson meets all these goals but only manages $140k in sales. Is that still an accomplishment or have they so severely missed their most important goal that they would be unemployed.

And you are as predicable as Bill O'Reilly.

[BrannyMuffin]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

Branny,

At the the very most the increase is double at best, meaning 400 per year added, not the 200 from last census. Still far from being able to reach the "goal".

Using population growth of twice, an optimistic number, the 10 year average, brings us to 1,600 new residents by 2010 or close to 180,000 population. Missing the goal by 28%, if Fiacco was still at Direct West and missed his sales goals by nearly 30%, how long would he be in that job ?

I never said it would be anywhere near what was needed to reach 250,000...I was just curious! If you take into account more people moving in and less people moving out, I just wondered what the numbers look like now compared to a year ago.

Again, with the goals...I suppose it would depend on whether or not they were his goals or the company's goals. It also depends on how realistic those goals are...You can't totally compare the two. If your boss set ridiculous goals like that for you, what would you think? And your boss surely wouldn't fire you for not reaching some wacky goal that you set on your own. I'm not trying to fight with you, I just don't think the two situations are completely interchangeable.

Don't get me wrong, I've got issues with some of the things the mayor is doing or has done...but overall, I think he's done a pretty good job. I look at where this city is today and how far we've come and I'm optimistic about the future. I think his biggest asset is that people can relate to him...he's a very nice person who is approachable and open and I think that goes a long way with "regular folk". And let's face it, no matter how big this city gets, not matter how corporate it becomes, most of us are just that...regular people. There's nothing wrong with that, either.

[BrannyMuffin]

Fight nice, you two!

[Mayor Quimby]

Most people that speak in third person are not considered "regular people" and Fiacco is the only politician that anyone ever says, "he's done pretty good."

How has Regina gotten better since 2000 ? I would say that many things are worse, other then the "I'm OK, You're OK" fanatics.

On a side note, the "Vision for Regina"was instigated by Fiacco and agreed upon by Council. The only boss these 11 have are the voters every 3 years. The administration can not dictate anything only advise and recommend.

[swilley]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

Tell me, how the other goals have been accomplished and give me some empirical evidence. The other ones are so vague that it is impossible. Also, if a salesperson has a goals of :

1) $200,000 in sales

2) Good customer service

3) Positive work attitude

4) Helpful to co-workers

5) Make friends at work

The salesperson meets all these goals but only manages $140k in sales. Is that still an accomplishment or have they so severely missed their most important goal that they would be unemployed.

And you are as predicable as Bill O'Reilly.

I am going to have to agree with Quimby on this one, Fiacco should be embarrassed by even thinking the city will reach 300k by 2010. I could see some SSP'er make that claim, but the mayor?? Come on, get a touch of reality. That's like me thinking I still have a shot at making the NHL, and publicly telling everyone "By 2010 I will play for the Ducks" It's completely bogus, so why say it.

[newflyer]

I have an old book (mid 80's) which discribes Regina as a nice city of 178,000 ... today its 179,000 twenty years later? Its really not moving anywhere fast is it.

[Xelebes]

Start fucking, folks. Drop the birth control and condoms while you're at it if you're in a solid relationship.

[A4Regina]

hmm i think that even though regina's population has not gone up, the progress of developments has been going strong in the last 3 years or so.

[newflyer]

Originally Posted by A4Regina

hmm i think that even though regina's population has not gone up, the progress of developments has been going strong in the last 3 years or so.

Momentum has to start somewhere, right? Maybe this is a turning point.

[Chaps]

By 2010? Absolutely not. You do realize that's in only 3 years?

Maybe by 2040.

[Chaps]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

Fiacco and council are on record as promising that Regina will have 250k and Regina CMA would be over 300k by 2010. It is a pipe dream.

Promising?

Your link is to a vision statement. Do you know what a vision statement IS?

[Chaps]

Originally Posted by newflyer

I have an old book (mid 80's) which discribes Regina as a nice city of 178,000 ... today its 179,000 twenty years later? Its really not moving anywhere fast is it.

Today I believe it is 198,000 (or was it 193,000?).

A vision statement including a goal of 250,000 by 2010 is not out of line at all. For one, Fiacco likely made that vision when he took office...so it's not like he made it yesterday.

Second...IT'S A VISION STATEMENT PEOPLE. I don't think anyone here knows what a bloody vision statement.

Go check the vision statements of all the companies in the world...see how many vision statements are realistic, or even specific. Vision statements are "dream statements"...it's where you would like to see the company/city go.

Does anyone really believe RC Cola will be the largest and best softdrink manufacturer in the world? Well...they won't. But that doesn't mean they, or any other drink manufacturer, can't have that vision for the company.

[governorgeneral]

Probably not. But it doesn't have to, really - a better target would be quality of life improvements for the people already living here. Like better transit, more arts and culture and libraries, livelier downtown, that sort of thing. If you really really need numerical targets, how about things like bus frequency or library availability or theatre shows and concerts or sports facilities opening hours, etc. Things that would actually mean something to people than "I'm citizen 248 538 of 250 000, woo hoo."

[LilZebra]

Originally Posted by Chaps

Today I believe it is 198,000 (or was it 193,000?).

A vision statement including a goal of 250,000 by 2010 is not out of line at all. For one, Fiacco likely made that vision when he took office...so it's not like he made it yesterday.

Second...IT'S A VISION STATEMENT PEOPLE. I don't think anyone here knows what a bloody vision statement.

Go check the vision statements of all the companies in the world...see how many vision statements are realistic, or even specific. Vision statements are "dream statements"...it's where you would like to see the company/city go.

Does anyone really believe RC Cola will be the largest and best softdrink manufacturer in the world? Well...they won't. But that doesn't mean they, or any other drink manufacturer, can't have that vision for the company.

So where would all these 50,000 people come from? Winnipeg? You can't have 'em. Regina isn't exactly considered multicultural like Winnipeg is.... what are the main non-white ethnic groups there?

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally Posted by Chaps

Today I believe it is 198,000 (or was it 193,000?).

A vision statement including a goal of 250,000 by 2010 is not out of line at all. For one, Fiacco likely made that vision when he took office...so it's not like he made it yesterday.

Second...IT'S A VISION STATEMENT PEOPLE. I don't think anyone here knows what a bloody vision statement.

Go check the vision statements of all the companies in the world...see how many vision statements are realistic, or even specific. Vision statements are "dream statements"...it's where you would like to see the company/city go.

Does anyone really believe RC Cola will be the largest and best softdrink manufacturer in the world? Well...they won't. But that doesn't mean they, or any other drink manufacturer, can't have that vision for the company.

Some of you guys will say the most outrageous things to defend Fat Cat Pat.

[ReginaGuy]

Originally Posted by jimj_wpg

So where would all these 50,000 people come from? Winnipeg? You can't have 'em. Regina isn't exactly considered multicultural like Winnipeg is.... what are the main non-white ethnic groups there?

Ive never really thought of Winnipeg as a multicultural city. With that said, obviously there would be more diversity in Winnipeg because it's a larger city

No reason to turn this into city vs city

[Only The Lonely..]

When the bust happens in Alberta I think you will see a lot of folks moving back to Regina.

I'm actually surprised to hear that Regina doesn't have 250,000. Your city seems so much bigger than 170,000+.

Whenever I drive around in Fargo (184,000) and then drive in Regina a few weeks later your city always seems so much bigger.

You have a number of impressive highrises, arts, culture.

I wouldn't worry about the 250,000 mark. Coming from a much larger city I was fooled.

Your football team could use a little work. *cough* cough * (Go Bombers!)

All in all, Keep up the good work Regina!

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally Posted by Only The Lonely..

When the bust happens in Alberta I think you will see a lot of folks moving back to Regina.

I'm actually surprised to hear that Regina doesn't have 250,000. Your city seems so much bigger than 170,000+.

Whenever I drive around in Fargo (184,000) and then drive in Regina a few weeks later your city always seems so much bigger.

You have a number of impressive highrises, arts, culture.

I wouldn't worry about the 250,000 mark. Coming from a much larger city I was fooled.

Your football team could use a little work. *cough* cough * (Go Bombers!)

All in all, Keep up the good work Regina!

If we had a council that had a brain, heart, or courage between them but instead the Mayor of Oz runs the show behind his curtain. The "Gong Show"