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After years of decline, Montreal's Jewish community starts growing again

http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/news...eclineMon.html

Long in decline, Montreal’s Jewry
bolstered by brand-new immigration


By Bram Eisenthal

MONTREAL, Dec. 29 (JTA) — Facing an uncertain future with an aging population, low birth rate and the loss of younger members for jobs elsewhere, Montreal’s Jewish community suddenly has a more optimistic outlook.

The Argentine economic crash of 2001-2002 and the upsurge in anti-Semitism in France linked to the Palestinian intifada have been a boon to Montreal’s Jewish community.

Poli and Damian Nisenson, a married artist and musician, came to Montreal from Buenos Aires with their two young daughters 18 months ago.

“We were both well-known, teaching, working at our professions and having a good standard of living. But then life got very violent,” said Damian Nisenson, who plays jazz, Beatles and his own compositions on saxophone and guitar.

Damian, who is in his early 50s, is struggling to succeed as a musician in Montreal, and works at the Jewish Public Library. Poli, who is in her 30s, paints, works when she can find jobs and occasionally exhibits her art around the city.

“We didn’t want to leave our home. I never felt anti-Semitism there or anything like that, but we were living in fear: You would go out and didn’t know if you would come home again,” Damian said. “So we decided it was worthwhile living a safer life, a quieter life, even though we would have to sacrifice a lot to be here. We came with only our bags, nothing else.”

Once the largest Jewish community in Canada, numbering approximately 135,000 in the mid-1970s, the size of Montreal’s community nose-dived after the election of the first Quebec separatist government in 1976.

Many Jews moved to Ontario, settling primarily in Toronto, which today boasts the largest Jewish community in Canada.

Families still return to Montreal on holiday weekends to visit aging parents and grandparents or to pick up excellent wood-oven fired bagels. And a thriving community remains, numbering between 85,000 to just over 100,000.

Now with the arrival of newcomers from Argentina and France, all bets on declining demographics are off.

“New immigrants mean that there still will be a strong Jewish community in Montreal in a couple of generations. It’s as simple as that,” said Shellie Ettinger, executive director of Jewish Immigrant Aid Services Montreal.

For Jews looking to leave Argentina and France, Quebec is a popular destination.

Since 2001, 2,044 Jews have come to Quebec from Argentina and 1,372 have arrived from France, according to JIAS figures.

Argentine immigration rose from 76 in 2001 to a high of 644 in 2003, before falling over the past two years to 463 in 2005. The fall coincided with an improvement in the Argentine economy.

The data from France show the impact of anti-Semitism resulting from the Palestinian intifada: The number of immigrants rose from 58 in 2001 to 582 in 2005.

The demographics of the new arrivals — many are younger families with more than one child — portend positive change for an aging community that in recent years has wondered how to increase its numbers.

Many more come on their own, either through business, university exchange programs or the purchase of property.

Jewish officials are treating the issue delicately.

“We want to be responsive and welcoming. We want even to be encouraging, but it has to be passive encouragement,” said Dr. Victor Goldbloom, a former Quebec Cabinet minister who soon will assume the presidency of JIAS Montreal. “It must be clear that we are not on a recruiting campaign to draw people away from their home communities.”

It’s not always easy for the immigrants. While they credit JIAS with helping them get settled, the Nisensons have had a difficult time making social and professional contacts in the community.

“JIAS helped us find our way when we got here, bought us our beds and mattresses, which we really appreciated,” Damian Nisenson said.

JIAS also helped the couple find a day-care center for daughters Miranda, 4, and Dalila, 2.

“But I had a hard time finding anyone to integrate with culturally or even to speak to at first, and our real contacts came from outside the Montreal Jewish community,” Damian said.

Things have improved recently as Nisenson increasingly makes a name as a musician in Montreal. The family was accepted at a reduced fee at last summer’s 10th KlezKanada festival, an annual weeklong event held in Quebec’s Laurentian Mountains, where he made new connections.

Things have been easier for Jean Charles Ada, 31, at least when it comes to finding work. Ada, an optometrist, and his wife Karine, 29, an optician, came to Montreal from Paris six months ago with their sons, aged four and one.

Karine said she was relieved to be in Quebec, away from the recent stresses the family faced in France, though she said they had left more for the children’s sake than for their own.

“The environment is bad for them in Paris,” she said. “The Jewish schools have security barriers around them and the children are afraid to go to school.”

Karine and Jean Charles frequently encountered verbal anti-Semitism, taunts about “Jews being rich and things of that nature, but never anything more aggressive or threatening,” she said. “The future did not look bright for us and our children, however, so we choose to leave.”

In Canada, she said, “we can live our Judaism openly, unlike in France.”

Karine praised local Jewish organizations for helping them get settled. Jewish Employment Montreal helped Jean Charles find a job in his field, and JIAS helped them find a school for one child and a good day-care center for the other, as well as doctors and other services.

“Everyone has been very nice and helpful,” she said.
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bonnes nouvelles, ça ne peut qu'être positif pour Montréal.
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C'est de l'urbanisme ca?
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Communauté métropolitaine de Québec / Greater Quebec City Area : 717,600 hab/inhab. (2005)

Québec est un gros village. Pour vo$ campagne$, c'e$t un trè$ gro$ avantage.

Québec, ville différente, fière de sa différence, la plus ouverte sur le monde et l'immigration au Québec.
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C'est de l'urbanisme ca?
Dans un sens oui.
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J'avoue.... si c'est des juifs assidiques avec les petites chapeaux pis les cheveux en rouleaux
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Québec est un gros village. Pour vo$ campagne$, c'e$t un trè$ gro$ avantage.

Québec, ville différente, fière de sa différence, la plus ouverte sur le monde et l'immigration au Québec.
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Et ton obesssion masturbaroire pour les Francais et la souveraineté, c'est aussi de l'urbanisme ?
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^ C'est à dire quoi, au juste ?
Ca veut qu'il est de Queuebac, et que ca parrait.
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l'urbanisme sans la population, ça s'appelle Sim City.

en passant, les Hassidiques, ça doit être qque chose comme 0.5% des Juifs de Montréal?

EDIT - je viens de lire 12% dans un article, mais j'ai beaucoup de difficulté à le croire.
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Ca veut qu'il est de Queuebac, et que ca parrait.
Pas tous les Québec citéens dans le même paquet svp...
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pas une nouvelle nouvelle, mais une bonne nouvelle quand meme
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Pas tous les Québec citéens dans le même paquet svp...
Je sais je sais, t'as raison, absolument, mon erreur ici. Mais maudit que je ne suis pas surpris cependant que ce commentaire vienne de quelqu'un de la bas.
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ca fera plus de votes pour les libéraux

les hassidique a Montreal je crois est l'une des plus importante communauté en dehors d'Israel.

J'ai rien contre - mais quelqu'un dois se pencher sur les deux communauté qui semble augmenté a Montreal - Les arabes et les juifs. On ne veux pas recréer des conflits qui existe ailleurs.
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Es tu passé au coin de Peel et René-Lévesque pendant les mois de l'été?
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Non, pourquoi? J'étais dans les Laurentides.
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^ c'était en lien avec le bombardement au Liban?
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ah oui !
faut dire que tout le monde du moyent orient semble être l'enemi juré des juifs. et l'inverse.
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Ca porte a confusion tout ca, serieusement. On sait plus trop de quelle main se branler: on est pour l'immigration, mais pas a n'importe quel prix. On en veux, mais pas de leurs problemes. Dificile comme situation, et j'ai souvent peur que ca vire comme les problemes arabes que Paris et ses banlieux vivent depuis deja plusieurs annees.
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Non, pourquoi? J'étais dans les Laurentides.
Les pro-palestiniens au côté ouest de peel et les pro-israeliens de l'autre côté de la rue, et ce 7 jours par semaine
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^ C'est peut-être vrai. Ici, au moins, il n'y a pas de mur dîtes « de sécurité » et ils ne tirent pas l'un sur l'autre. Côté pro palestinienne tu vas aussi trouver plusieurs juifs.

Je me pose la question : Dans l'histoire du Canada est-ce que les communautés d'origines française et anglaise ont amenés leurs querelles ici ? Oui ? Ah, alors les palestiniens et les juifs n'ont rien à apprendre de nous autres...
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