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Originally Posted by wwmiv
Satellite cities (among which Gary and Hammond are definitely, and Vancouver in the Portland example) are not inner core suburbia, IMHO.
They are legacy satellites city cores surrounded by outer ring suburbia. I think this is particularly true of Vancouver, WA, where most of the inner core suburbia is within the city limits of Portland proper.
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Oh, ok, so you just don't like the description of NWI as "inner ring".
That's fine, but as Crawford pointed out, suburban "rings" don't really work in older, messier, big metros that had a lot of pre-war population already existing outside the central city before the full-scale automobile-fueled sprawl-a-thon of the post-war era.
I was just trying to separate old school suburbia (street car, inner ring, railroad, industrial satellite, whatever) from true sprawl (you know, the shitty cul-de-sacs & stroads variety)
I mean, if we strictly use your interpretation of "inner ring" then even the northshore burbs don't qualify because they developed independently around their commuter rail stations, not from direct development pressure pushing outward from the city in "rings". But most people will commonly refer to places like Evanston or
highland park as "inner ring" cuz they're older than post-war sprawl.
That same courtesy would apply to NWI as well, one of the largest areas of pre-war suburban development in Chicagoland (and a lot of which has sadly been lost to the classic Rustbelt downward death spiral).
Anyway, now back to our regularly scheduled "the accents of New Jersey" programming.