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Posted Mar 19, 2023, 11:37 PM
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Inveterate Angeleno
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 7,500
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Originally Posted by Docere
It's not tiny - there's more British ancestry than Italian in the area.
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American Community Survey isn't generating tabular data, but I remember seeing that Boston had disproportionately larger numbers of people claiming English and Scottish ancestry at the CSA level. It has by far the largest share oof English of the major metros (NYC, LA, Chicago, DC-Baltimore, Bay Area, Boston, DFW, Philly, Houston, Atlanta, Miami). In the most literal sense, it could be said that Boston is the most WASPy metro, but a good amount of those claiming English ancestry probably assimilated into the Catholic culture.
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But if you include the large number of German ancestry (who aren't "white ethnic") in Philadelphia, it would (probably) come out as the more "white Protestant" or "non-ethnic" region. In Pennsylvania many can trace their German ancestry back to colonial times, so they're very much part of the "old stock" population. In New England meanwhile the colonial population was virtually all English.
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On Philadelphia and German Catholics...
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By the 1780s, half of Philadelphia's Catholic population was German, and they asked permission of John Carroll, the Apostolic Prefect of the United States, to build their own church. Holy Trinity Church was founded in 1784 by German-speaking Catholics, and in 1788, Carroll authorized it as a national parish for Germans. It was the first national parish for any ethnicity in the United States, and was the third parish established in the city of Philadelphia, predating the establishment of the Archdiocese of Philadelphia.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_T..._(Philadelphia)
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The first company of emigrants left Germany in the year 1683, and arrived in Philadelphia in October of that year, they were Mennonites from Crefeld under the leadership of Francis Daniel Pastorius. The leader tells us of one of his servants who was a " Romanist " giving us the record that there was a Catholic at the founding of Germantown. The settlers continued to come in small parties and soon made Germantown a flourishing centre. This settlement is generally accepted as the first German settlement in America, though there were some German Protestants among the Huguenots when they settled Port Royal, South Carolina, in 1562.
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Nevertheless, the Germans flocked to this country in great numbers. Many of these were too poor to pay the passage; others were fleeced by unprincipled "Newlanders " and by avaricious ship captains. To enable these to pay their passage a system of "redemption" was instituted by which the new immigrants were sold off to the colonists and bound to serve a number of years until the debt was paid. The immigrants thus sold were called "redemptioners." The system was applied extensively to the German colonists.
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Many German Catholics also came to America as redemptioners and servants. Their names do not, therefore, appear in the early records, though some of them later became quite prominent. Many a redemptioner saved his earnings and, after the time of his service was ended, bought land and became prosperous. German immigration was especially large in Pennsylvania, so large in fact that the authorities feared the colony would lose its English character. In the early Church records we find many German names, and reports (between the years 1740-1760) show that the German Catholics outnumbered their English-speaking brethren.
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Once a settlement had been made the Germans flocked to this country and many of these were Catholics. In fact at the beginning of the American Revolution the German Catholics outnumbered the coreligionists among the English in many localities. It was because of their number that Father Joseph Greaton, S.J., who was in charge of the first Catholic church in Philadelphia, St. Joseph's, applied to his Provincial for some German-speaking priests to care for their countrymen. Other priests also lamented their inability to care for the German element in their flocks. In 1741 the first German priests arrived in the English colonies. Father Theodore Schnieder, S.J., a Bavarian, "a man of much learning and great zeal, of great dexterity in business, of consummate prudence and undaunted magnanimity", was the pioneer among his countrymen in Pennsylvania. Before coming to America he had been professor of philosophy and polemics at Liege and later Rector Magnifiais of the University of Heidelberg. He made Goshenhoppen, the present Bally in Berks County, his headquarters and here he began his mission work organizing a number of mission stations in the eastern counties and founding several parishes. His extensive travels through the country helped much toward keeping the Faith alive among his countrymen. The tract of land belonging to the mission at Goshenhoppen comprised 373 acres and 100 perches and was bought by Father Greaton from Richard and Thomas Penn for 57 pounds, 18 shillings, 3 pence. In 1747 Father Neale bought an additional tract of 122 acres. This land was parceled out in lots, the sum realized being used for the support of the Church in other parts of the Province. Many Catholics were drawn to this place and soon a flourishing village sprang up about the church.
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https://www.jstor.org/stable/44208643?seq=14
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