Winnipeg | ZÜ | 160 Osborne St & 424/425 Wardlaw Ave.

[esquire]

Went by yesterday, saw a lot of action deep in the ground but not quite up to grade yet. It's nice to see it coming along.

[trueviking]

Great news. I’m excited to see Osborne itself get bulked up. Need to get rid of the fire hall now.

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by trueviking

Great news. I’m excited to see Osborne itself get bulked up. Need to get rid of the fire hall now.

Having that fire hall there actually adds to the allowable density. Also it raises land values as people feel safer when they have a close fire hall.

Where do you think they are going to shove a new hall? Pull something stupid like the portage Avenue one where the old hall 3 blocks away was fine. But let's spend millions on a stupidly placed hall in what is technically part of an intersection. The older Osborne one down south from the fire hall is just a ambulance hall now. So the nearest is actually quite far. That hall in Osborne serves also Kingston Row area of St Vital when the St vital one on St Mary's is busy elsewhere.

[SKYSTHELIMIT]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

Having that fire hall there actually adds to the allowable density. Also it raises land values as people feel safer when they have a close fire hall.

Where do you think they are going to shove a new hall? Pull something stupid like the portage Avenue one where the old hall 3 blocks away was fine. But let's spend millions on a stupidly placed hall in what is technically part of an intersection. The older Osborne one down south from the fire hall is just a ambulance hall now. So the nearest is actually quite far. That hall in Osborne serves also Kingston Row area of St Vital when the St vital one on St Mary's is busy elsewhere.

Could retrofit the ambo station temporarily to house fire apparatus and build a new hall in its current spot with housing up top and commercial along the Stradbrook side.

[esquire]

^ Exactly. Victoria just built something like that.

[trueviking]

I’d love to see a study showing property values rise with proximity to fire halls.

Pretty sure there’s lots of space in Osborne Village for a fire hall that isn’t on a major intersection. How about closer to Donald Street.

[buzzg]

I thought they were putting the new fire hall on Mulvey E? Which would be closer to Kingston Row, and avoid Confusion Corner going south. The city is selling some of the Mulvey land, but not all of it.

[Wigglez]

Originally Posted by trueviking

I’d love to see a study showing property values rise with proximity to fire halls.

Pretty sure there’s lots of space in Osborne Village for a fire hall that isn’t on a major intersection. How about closer to Donald Street.

I know, personally, that was 100% of my decision when I bought my place! I made sure to wait years for a spot beside a 24/7 fire hall to open up. The random sirens blasting beside my window at all hours of the day is a small price to pay for the... ummmm.... the benefits of.... proximity? I have a team of lawyers working around the clock to force the city to increase property taxes near firehalls knowing how in demand they are.

[WinCitySparky]

Still looks like zero progress on this. Anyone hear anything recently?

[lbnevs]

Originally Posted by WinCitySparky

Still looks like zero progress on this. Anyone hear anything recently?

I live across/down the street. It's been quiet since the giant snowfall (they have a LOT of snow to clear out from the pit), but prior to that there was heavy machinery on site most days and the staging site across the street seemed reasonably busy. They've done excavation, driven piles, and have done a bunch of utility work.

[cllew]

I don't know if the firehall noise is that bad to impact values.

Houses on Kimberly Ave sell fast and there is the old EK firehall in the 600 Block so there are always fire trucks heading west to get to Henderson Highway or east to hit Gateway/Raleigh.

Immanuel United Church has sold some of their excess land fronting Kimberly to a developer to do a multi family development almost right across from that station.

[WinCitySparky]

Originally Posted by lbnevs

I live across/down the street. It's been quiet since the giant snowfall (they have a LOT of snow to clear out from the pit), but prior to that there was heavy machinery on site most days and the staging site across the street seemed reasonably busy. They've done excavation, driven piles, and have done a bunch of utility work.

Thank you!

Admittedly yesterday was the first time I’d driven by in a few months with a keen eye so the snow must’ve just thrown my eye off.

[zalf]

Activity is picking up here again. The north wall of the pit is wrapped in heated tents, and it looks like the other walls have newly-installed shoring.

[lbnevs]

Walked by today and took a shot:




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[zalf]

They've started pouring concrete. I'm really glad there's visible progress being made again. I think this thing was originally advertising to be open for Summer 2021.

[wardlawer]

Originally Posted by zalf

They've started pouring concrete. I'm really glad there's visible progress being made again. I think this thing was originally advertising to be open for Summer 2021.

Their webpage is saying Spring 2023 but that seems like a stretch. It's been two years since they tore down the hotel and it's still just a pit. At least there's a full crew now, it's been a couple of guys for most of the winter.

[Biff]

At 6 storeys, if they have a full crew working (which they haven't in the past) they should have it done by next spring.

[lbnevs]

Originally Posted by Biff

At 6 storeys, if they have a full crew working (which they haven't in the past) they should have it done by next spring.

looks like they're pouring concrete:

[zalf]

The core of the more easterly building looks to be about flush with grade now. Progress!

[WinCitySparky]

Originally Posted by zalf

The core of the more easterly building looks to be about flush with grade now. Progress!

Nice thanks!