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LOVE the stadium proposal!
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Royal Caribbean Is Fighting To Keep The Port Beckham-Free



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Royal Caribbean Cruise Line, which has enjoyed the unique privilege of having its bayfront corporate headquarters located within the port, right in the middle of all the maritime action, does not like the idea of a soccer stadium being built on its turf, and they're ready to rumble.

The site is too restricted for David Beckham]'s soccer stadium extravaganza they say, security is a big fear too, and congestion is an even bigger fear. Not a word about losing their rarified perch with its sweeping views. On the up side, now that an opposition has been assembled, the real fun of megaproject bureaucracy can begin. Lawyers at the ready? Let the battle begin.
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Gimenez to David Beckham: Consider Downtown Boat Slip for MLS Stadium



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David Beckham's aspirations for a new Major League Soccer stadium at PortMiami have lately been going about as well as Liverpool's title chase. That's an English soccer joke, people. They're not going well! Faced with stiff opposition from Royal Caribbean and competing developers, Beckham's proposal has begun to look politically toxic, raising the question of whether MLS will come to the Magic City after all.

But Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez opened the possibility of a new option yesterday: a downtown waterfront stadium for Becks that's not at the port. Instead, he suggested, the soccer field could be built on a huge boat slip just north of the American Airlines Arena.
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Why wouldn't they go for this site ? It's impossibly hip. Lebron is just a leap across the water.
     
     
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I don't mind that location, either....
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It would be cool to attend a match there, what the "Miami Wall" looming over the stadium.
     
     
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It would be a great location for it too:



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Wonder if they'd build a pedestrian bridge to the arena ?
     
     
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But Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez opened the possibility of a new option yesterday: a downtown waterfront stadium for Becks that's not at the port. Instead, he suggested, the soccer field could be built on a huge boat slip just north of the American Airlines Arena.

I wonder if the Mayor is crazy. That "boat slip" would have to be filled in which would raise the wrath of the environmentalists and who would pay to fill it in?
Also the land above the slip shown is part of the still developing Museum Park and many Miamians cherish what is left of their waterfront park land.
Both the Port site & this site are terrible ideas. Why doesn't Beckham look into downtown Miami proper? There is plenty of land north of the CBD.
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Why are they terrible ideas??? Stadiums and museums need to be in center cities.....
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Why are they terrible ideas??? Stadiums and museums need to be in center cities.....
Yes, this is terrible move. I don't think such good idea. I don't think they ever built a new soccer stadium. They won't consider it.
     
     
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With either of these locations, one of the cruise companies could buy the naming rights, thus getting more exposure for their brand....perfect location for that!
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With either of these locations, one of the cruise companies could buy the naming rights, thus getting more exposure for their brand....perfect location for that!
Royal Caribbean Stadium has a nice ring to it
     
     
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There is still the possibility of the stadium being built on the portside. Its up to the mayor and city commission BUT they may allow it. Up to them thou...

The might be able to work out a deal to build the stadium along with the original development (See Renderings).

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Beckham presses forward with Miami stadium bid

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Beckham's consultant, John Alschuler, a real estate adviser who has led waterfront development projects in New York City, Hong Kong and other metropolises, said development of a stadium and other commercial property would likely generate $6 million to $10 million in annual revenue.
He said fewer than 100 jobs would be created directly by the franchise, but thousands more would result indirectly at restaurants and nearby businesses. Alschuler also denied traffic congestion would worsen, noting fans wouldn't arrive until around 6:30 p.m., hours after the cruise ships have sailed.
"It's sheer, deliberate, willful misinformation," Alschuler said of the alliance's claims.

South Florida's last soccer team, the Miami Fusion, played 30 miles north of the port and lasted only three years until 2001 because of low attendance.
That history, perhaps, led Beckham and associates to two conclusions: The stadium must be downtown, and the team must win.
The decision ultimately rests with the mayor and county commission. Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez has asked Beckham to consider an alternative site near the Heat's arena. But he said he could potentially support a Port of Miami stadium.


Beckham, for his part, came back to Miami on Tuesday, holding private meetings with commissioners and weighing Gimenez's suggested site.
"We want to be a positive for people," Beckham said. "This part of America has not had a soccer team for quite a few years, and they deserve one."
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David Beckham Is Cool With Putting Stadium In Old FEC Slip

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"The preferred sites are the ones on the water" David Beckham said at County Hall, referring to the already preferred site at the port, and the alternative site that he loves almost as much that Mayor Gimenez proposed at the old Florida East Coast Railway Slip on Biscayne Boulevard. Seeing opposition to his port stadium plan, Becks is now open to this other option.

The slip, a long inlet that reaches all the way to Biscayne Boulevard, happens to be the same site Gimenez swore wouldn't be used for Beckham's stadium back in December when he then proposed filling it in for a park.
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This could be a bad thing though for the project. IDK, the public tends to be anti development. Same with Skyrise Miami, a referendum is going to happen for that project. Even though construction for Skyrise is likely to begin in June. Hopefully the voters see the benefits. The referendum is for the soccer stadium that the mayor and Beckham seem to like, although it is technically not required.
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Referendum appears increasingly likely for David Beckham’s proposed Miami soccer stadium


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The mayors of Miami-Dade and Miami said they favor a voter referendum on a potential stadium — and David Beckham’s group appears to agree.

The longer David Beckham and his investors spend scouting publicly owned sites for a potential Major League Soccer stadium in Miami, the more it looks like the group will have to go to at least some voters for eventual approval.

Miami Mayor Tomás Regalado said the city will require a referendum if Beckham’s group settles on filling and then building on a city-owned deep-water basin, known as the Florida East Coast Railway slip, along Biscayne Boulevard.

And, in a new wrinkle, Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez said Wednesday that the county could also seek voter approval if Miami Beckham United asks to build on PortMiami’s southwest corner — even though a referendum would not be required for the county-owned property.

“I know that there are a lot of commissioners that would like that,” Gimenez told the Miami Herald. “I think that, at the end, the people’s voice should be heard.”

A ballot question would push back the deadline set by Beckham’s group, which had hoped to have a stadium plan in place this summer to present to MLS. The earliest a referendum would take place is in August, with November a more likely possibility, Gimenez and Regalado said.
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Even if they fill in the boat slip above there is not enough room to build a soccer stadium there. Just look at how much bigger the AA Arena is in comparison and they have a capacity of 19,600. Don't soccer stadiums have larger capacities than this?
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Here's The New Bayfront/Museum Park Beckham Stadium Plan






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1) Apparently it would eat into Museum Park, cutting much of it off from Biscayne Boulevard, but the water-end of the former slip would become parkland, and that park land would continue through Parcel-B, the site behind the AmericanAirlines Arena, all the way to the port bridge.

2) Including Parcel-B and the former slip-bottom, would give the area a net-gain in park land of 20 percent.

3) The plan seems to make the stadium as low-profile as possible, which is nice if you're a condo dweller worried about losing your water view, but still creates a barrier for those on Biscayne Boulevard.

4) They're saying Museum Park is an "incomplete" and thus mediocre park because of all the stuff that was planned for it but canceled and that this is a reason their park would be so much better. Apparently they don't think it's gorgeous as it is like we do.

5) The soccer stadium would be an "amenity of the park". Soccer Little League, or whatever it's called, anyone?

6) The stadium will be max 90 feet high along the road and 60 feet high along the bayfront, far lower than the AmericanAirline Arena. They also claim it will blend into the park, with cafes and commercial "folded in" to the side of the stadium, whatever that means.

7) The stadium will "incorporate greenery into its facade and concourse." Okay, so at least it will look like a park.

8) The stadium will supposedly only host 25 events a year, a figure probably meant to appease those whose worst nightmares consist of being stuck in traffic jams. The other 340 days a year are still up for grabs, people.

9) It will be an "an unparalleled fan experience" and an "iconic home for soccer". Okay, we'll give them that.

10) A big new bay walk would border the park.

11) You can hardly see the stadium in any of the renderings. Really? It's the magical disappearing stadium for 25,000 people.
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Some extra information on the public impact when it comes to traffic, taxes, recreation, etc. A lot more detailed than what Curbed mention:
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1. Beckham's Stadium Will Transform the Waterfront
The one thing that everyone can agree on is that, if approved, Beckham's stadium will radically transform the downtown waterfront. Although sketches suggest that the stadium itself will be much lower -- and lower key -- than it would have been at PortMiami, putting it just north of American Airlines Arena will require some serious reshuffling. First, it will require the filling of the FEC boat slip next to American Airlines Arena. John Alschuler, Beckham's real estate advisor, says the group is prepared to pump $20-30 million into filling the boat slip and other infrastructure. That's on top of the actual stadium, which could cost more than $200 million.

2. It Will Add Parkland
Beckham's soccer stadium can't completely fit where the boat slip is, so it will also have to sit atop part of what is now Museum Park. But Alschuler and Claure were at pains to point out that their plan will actually increase the amount of parkland by 4.3 acres, or around 23 percent. That's because land will be added between the stadium and the water, as well as in front of American Airlines Arena.
"We've made it 20 percent bigger and 100 percent better," Alschuler said of the park. "The orientation of the park now runs along your greatest resource, which is Biscayne Bay." He said that a $150 million plan to create a long, uninterrupted bay front park back in 1997 had been allowed to fizzle into a mere $10 million landscaping project today. "We've seen a history of diminishing resources in this park," he said. Beckham's stadium would put some ambition back into park.

3. But It Eliminate Part of Biscayne Bay
If Beckham gets his way, the FEC boat slip will be gone. Whether we should care or not is up for debate. Alschuler called the boat slip water "brackish" and said there was "nothing natural about the shore" or sea bottom. But Stuart Sorg, a retired Navy SEAL and chairman of the City's Waterfront Advisory Board, says filling in the boat slip would be a mistake. "It's a beautiful piece of land that should remain the same way it is," he says. "Open land is so important. We try to save land for the people, not just to cover it up and put something on it, let alone a stadium that will be empty most of the time.

His worries are echoed by Laura Reynolds, executive director of the Tropical Audubon Society. In a statement distributed at the press conference, she questioned whether the boat slip could even be legally filled in. "We contend that the people of Florida, Miami-Dade County, and the Florida Legislature intended for Biscayne Bay to be held in the public trust to enjoy water dependent activities for ours and future generations," she said. "We contend that Biscayne Bay Aquatic Preserves is Miami's great urban park."

4. You Won't Have to Pay for It
Both Beckham and Claure have made it clear that they aren't asking for any city or county funds to build the stadium (Beckham & Co. did successfully lobby lawmakers in Tallahassee for a lucrative state tax break, but that doesn't have much of a direct impact on locals). Unlike Jeffrey Loria, whose Marlins stadium in Little Havana could ultimately cost taxpayers around $2 billion, Beckham and his partners will pay roughly $250 million out of their own pockets to fill the boat slip and build the MLS stadium. They will then own the stadium, which will sit upon public land.
"Not a dime of public money will go towards creating almost nine acres of new public parkland," Alschuler said. "This will be 100 percent paid for by private dollars."

5. But It Will Cost Us
Beckham's plan does have some indirect costs for taxpayers, however. The City of Miami spent $4 million on its own park plan, which would have to be radically redone to accommodate the stadium. The city also recently spent $12 million on upgrading the boat slip. Those sunk costs would effectively be squandered when the boat slip is filled with rubble. "It's our hope that people will understand that a dramatic improvement [in the park] is a fair value," Alschuler said.

6. The Stadium Has Other Benefits
Because of the boat slip wrinkle, Beckham's bay-front stadium is bold. But it isn't nearly as big as what he had proposed at PortMiami. There are no hotels, for instance, included in the new design. Yet, Alschuler stressed that the stadium would be a serious boost to both Museum Park and the downtown economy.
"This is what has evolved" currently in the park, he said. "There is no shade. There are no children's facilities. There are no places for people to gather. There is no place to have an ice cream with your child. There is no place to have a glass of wine and enjoy the view. It is a skeleton park. Not a fully fleshed out, robust park."

In contrast, Alschuler said that stadium would fit as seamlessly as possible into the park, and that ground-level cafes and restaurants would be accessible on days when there are no soccer games. Meanwhile, the side of the stadium will be used for wallcasts -- perhaps of World Cup games -- as with the New World Symphony building in Miami Beach. "We want to be good neighbors," he said. "We will be good neighbors."

7. But Parking Will Be an Issue
Alschuler conceded that those attending games at the stadium would have to "utilize the parking that is already here" in downtown. As one newscaster pointed out, half of downtown's 20,000 parking spots will soon give way to new development projects. But Alschuler said that by scheduling games on Saturday afternoons and Wednesday evenings, he hoped to avoid overlap with Heat games while luring visitors to downtown when they wouldn't otherwise be there.

Asked whether Miami's public transportation system was up to the task of delivering fans to the stadium, Claure said a downtown stadium was better off than elsewhere. "Downtown is the only location in Miami where you can arrive using public transportation," he said. He also pointed out that a downtown stadium was a condition of Major League Soccer's decision to award Miami a team.

8. "The U" Will Not Play Here
Beckham and company had floated the idea of hosting University of Miami football games at the stadium, but a bay-front location makes that almost impossible. The low-rise stadium (at around 90 feet, 60 feet shorter than American Airlines Arena) will only be able to hold around 20,000 fans. That's less than half The U's average attendance last year in Sun Life Stadium.

9. Much Remains Up in the Air
In two weeks, Beckham has gone from fighting for a spot at the port to totally revamping downtown's waterfront. His team was keen to declare they had only had 12 days to come up with the sketches on display. One angle that was absent was the view of the stadium from Biscayne Boulevard, a major source of concern because it will cut off the view of the water. Sketches of the stadium itself aren't available yet either.

Miamians can expect more detailed stadium sketches in the months to come. Also up in the air is a land swap deal between the city and the county required before the boat slip can be filled in. That would require city commissioners to sign off on the plan. It's too early to tell if they will support the stadium, or turn against it, as county commissioners did.

10. You Will Get to Vote on It
But the biggest obstacle to Beckham's bay-front stadium is a public vote. Beckham and his advisors have long sought to distance themselves from the Marlins' stadium -- which was never put to a public vote and became so toxic that county mayor Carlos Alvarez and county commissioner Natacha Seijas were both recalled -- by promising a referendum.
"I've always said that our team will be the people's club -- another downtown amenity that makes the entire Miami-Dade community proud," Beckham said in a press release.

The issue is expected to be on the November 4 ballot. Miami Beckham United is up against lingering stadium suspicions. But Claure said the team was ready to release its secret weapon: a David Beckham charm offensive. "You'll see David as a very active presence" in the campaign, he said with a smile.

11. (Bonus!) The Team Won't Be Called "Miami Beckham United"
Despite the wishes of one British woman seated next to him, Claure announced the team will not, in fact, be called "Miami Beckham United." Instead, Claure said he and Beckham hope to get help from Miamians in choosing a moniker.
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3D Mass Model of the project. I think the stadium had us forget the real project at hand. Apologies for the size, but I feel this really gives an idea of the scope plus all the others were too small to see..
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