^ a bit over dramatic I think. RMW builds what there is a market for. if they think the product can sell without additional design costs they will do it. Do I often wish the design was better? yes. Are their projects god awful? no. And I don't think the 'influx of awful buildings' is a thing. I don't know that we are building a significantly larger percentage of awful designs than at any other time our history.
Park Tower is an embarrassment to the . 840 is nothing more than a cheap, shitty building with nice finishes that gets sold as luxury. One Museum Park is a confused looking disaster, also an embarrassment, Related or not.
But hey, you gotta applaud their game; Related Midwest does a really good job of selling shit to idiots.
There's been a steady influx of awful buildings over the last 10-15 years or so. This is yet more of the same shit. It's tiresome and ruining our city. I'll chill out when we stop seeing this kind of shit pop up every few years. Architecture matters. And indifference breeds content.
Not sure how accurate that planning commission agenda is or if they use approximations but it looks like we may have lost a few floors.
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The application proposes to amend the Planned Development for Subarea F and seeks
Lake Michigan and Chicago Lakefront Protection District approval to recalculate the net
site area and increase the permitted amount of floor area and number of residential
dwelling units and to approve plans for a 65-story, 350 dwelling unit building and a redesigned public open space.
I can't believe I'm typing this, but a Robert AM Stern designed heap of shit is about to be approved in Chicago. Have we really fallen so far?
I suppose we can still hold out hope for a zombie apocalypse, or similar, to head this actual calamity off.........
Hyperbole doesn't suit you, but you're entitled to your own opinion, so whatever.
In my opinion, this particular developer, market, City could do FAR worse, and as much as you hate Po-Mo shite Sam (I will agree with you on how detestable a 'movement' it is), I really don't think this building is part of the same vernacular. I like it, so sue me.
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Here's what I'm hearing: 'it could be worse' 'so what - lot's of people have put up shit over the years in this town', 'it's not the absolute ugliest thing ever', 'hey - what about that one 'architect - what's his name? - he was worse, no?', 'i mean, it's not the best style for sure, but as far as that style goes, this isn't the absolute worst possible example, right?'
Nice, people. These are great standards you have for architecture and design in Chicago. How noble.
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Nice, people. These are great standards you have for architecture and design in Chicago. How noble.
i think people are responding to your hyperbolic "Have we really fallen so far?" comment.
considering that far more offensive crap has been recently built in this town like a plague, it's difficult to see how this related/stern tower would set the bar even lower.
chicago isn't going to fall so far because of this one project; we're already way the fuck down there.
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^ oh, that was obviously just a little dramatic dressing - folks, enjoy language and its colorful use - it's one of those special things that separates us from the lower order animals.....
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^ oh, that was obviously just a little dramatic dressing - folks, enjoy language and its colorful use - it's one of those special things that separates us from the lower order animals.....
I am not so sure your incessant swearing and complaining qualifies as "colorful use" of our language. It is getting built, deal with it.
Just like the recent AMLI highrise, I think this one is ok and better than other recent developments. It's a decent building people, just not a great one.
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It's the prominence of this POS that is what is 'gonna hurt'. Were it a 400-500' Silly Stern Sentimental Shit-Spire, the negative impact would be highly mitigated.
As it stands - er, will stand, the negative impact here will be outsized, unfortunately....
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I am not so sure your incessant swearing and complaining qualifies as "colorful use" of our language. It is getting built, deal with it.
First, grow up a little.
Second, although cursing was demonstrably not what I was referring to, coincidentally that actually would technically meet a definition of "colorful language"
Third, I'll be fine - no worries about that. It's the future skyline and aesthetics of South Streeterville that are concerning.
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At least the design is restrained. The upward rhythm is clumsy, but there's a blessed lack of ersatz Classical ornament. The W and E elevations will probably look quite nice (if only for the H/W ratio).
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Hyperbole doesn't suit you, but you're entitled to your own opinion, so whatever.
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