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Old Posted Sep 27, 2022, 7:09 PM
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PHILADELPHIA | The Mark at Philadelphia | 407 FT | 34 FLOORS

Title: The Mark at Philadelphia
Project: Residential/retail
Architect: BKV Group
Developer: Landmark Properties
Location: 3615 Chestnut Street, Philadelphia, PA
District: West Philadelphia
Neighborhood: University City
Floors: 34 floors
Height: 407 feet


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https://www.phila.gov/media/20220927...1-2022-CDR.pdf
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2022, 7:34 PM
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Wow!!! Out of nowhere!!!
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Damn -- that's gonna leave a mark!
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I'm still looking over the paperwork but just off of memory I'll say this; for a few years now I've expected development to move closer to 38th Street so this will be significant; this building will have a massive effect on Philadelphia's skyline over all.

If one is downtown and looking west you will see a canyon effect. If one is outside of the Metropolitan Center in West Philadelphia looking towards downtown this tower will look much taller than it actually is because of the lay of the land; especially if one is at 44th Street in the Mill Creek Valley.

If one is approaching Philadelphia from the south either on I-95 or I-76 from the Walt Whitman Bridge; it expands the skyline substantially to 38th Street. Most building in downtown Philadelphia are between 50-75 feet above sea level however this building will sit around 131 so it will appear a great deal high and impact the skyline more. If we approach the city from the north this tower will really impact the skyline from the Museum of Art along with the Children's Hospital New Patients Tower and 3025 JFK Blvd.

We are most fortunate, University City is developing a skyline that many cities in general either have or are just beginning to obtain and while I do not really indulge in city to city conversation because the full character of a city can't be measured in pure real estate development we are seeing University City develop as downtown Baltimore has. I contemplate this tower and other projects in scale with the larger skyline of downtown Philadelphia in total.

As details and more design features come out on this tower it'll be a joy to see.
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That's a nice Tuesday surprise! Don't often see proposals of this magnitude go straight to CDR without prior community ass-kissing, rumors/chatter, media, etc. Love the height and love that it's replacing a parking lot. https://goo.gl/maps/9SFTsZM3WCVBK5u3A Design isn't bad but not a fan of the massing (wide buildings in general), although I presume they're just trying to maximize the lot size. Excited to see this one rise - will definitely make a nice impact on the skyline and further densify the burgeoning UC skyline.
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2022, 10:10 PM
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Great project. Build it!
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Science Center, UCity Square, Penn, Drexel and gene/cell therapy. I think we'll see a lot of developers place a lot of bets on the future success of West Philly in the near future.
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Awesome to see!!
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Wow, this would be a new tallest for University City, no?
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Wow, this would be a new tallest for University City, no?
No. FMC Tower is 736 feet tall. Cira Centre is 434 feet tall. Evo is 430 feet tall.

There’s also the proposed 3001 JFK Boulevard that’s a part of Schuylkill Yards which is 512 feet tall and should hopefully start construction soon. There’s also the new proposed CHOP Tower that is 434 feet tall and site prep has started on that.

So, this will be 5th or 6th tallest in University City by the time it’s completed.
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^ Crazy! When the Cira Centre was built in 2005, it was the tallest in Univ City and I don't believe there were any other 400 footers.
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https://www.inquirer.com/real-estate...-20220930.html

Some more info on this project - includes 390 units.
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I don't have any big problem with a big tower being at this location, but I got a feeling that this is going to look like a cheap turd, and a very large cheap turd. I wonder what kind of zoning allows X number of floors that are being described as dormitory type space?
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From the renders, looks like cheap panels will be used for cladding. If they went with better materials, it would look fine. Don't mind the design at all. it's student housing, or that is at least the developer's aim.
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From the renders, looks like cheap panels will be used for cladding. If they went with better materials, it would look fine. Don't mind the design at all. it's student housing, or that is at least the developer's aim.
My only hope here is that the material is listed in the CDR as concrete panels, not metal. IMO concrete panels look much, much better than metal.
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My only hope here is that the material is listed in the CDR as concrete panels, not metal. IMO concrete panels look much, much better than metal.
I agree. I've seen metal panels with joints that are "chaulked" between them. Do you know if the concrete panels are run all the way up to the top of the building?
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I agree. I've seen metal panels with joints that are "chaulked" between them. Do you know if the concrete panels are run all the way up to the top of the building?
Not really sure. It looks like a mix of metal and precast concrete panels. The materials legend is on p. 18-19 of the CDR if you want to see if you can figure it out.
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Not really sure. It looks like a mix of metal and precast concrete panels. The materials legend is on p. 18-19 of the CDR if you want to see if you can figure it out.
Don't hold me to it, but it looks like both metal and precast run up and down the length of the building in a non-random configuration. Kinda interesting with the different shades they are using to do all of this.
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If one is approaching Philadelphia from the south either on I-95 or I-76 from the Walt Whitman Bridge; it expands the skyline substantially to 38th Street. Most building in downtown Philadelphia are between 50-75 feet above sea level however this building will sit around 131 so it will appear a great deal high and impact the skyline more. If we approach the city from the north this tower will really impact the skyline from the Museum of Art along with the Children's Hospital New Patients Tower and 3025 JFK Blvd.
I did not ever consider that regarding the sea level difference. That is a way cool fyi.

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Old Posted Oct 1, 2022, 3:21 PM
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BTW...this is BKV Group's 3rd project in Philly. Their first is Piazza Terminal, the 2nd being the Broad/Washington Project.

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