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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 3:23 AM
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ok Howard pls relax and take a chill pill before Lamba is your net varient you are going to be concerned with.



I have had enough of this daily fear porn. Although most of the posters here thrive on it


It seems.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 3:32 AM
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ok Howard pls relax and take a chill pill before Lamba is your net varient you are going to be concerned with.



I have had enough of this daily fear porn. Although most of the posters here thrive on it


It seems.
The bay area mask mandate begins tomorrow, and other populated metros will follow.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 3:45 AM
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The bay area mask mandate begins tomorrow, and other populated metros will follow.
Chicago is recommending them, but not mandating them. Same with NYC.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 4:07 AM
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Chicago is recommending them, but not mandating them. Same with NYC.
If there is a surge Cook County or Lightfoot wont make a move? I'm not sure and it's a difficult subject since the science says local mandates are ok but no federal (for now). My area for sure is not following the science and now people have to consider other options for medical care.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 4:51 AM
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Yeah, back to masks again. But at least things are still open. Now we're all living like the Floridans over the past year.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 5:37 AM
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Welp, looks like the anti maskers are back.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 6:03 AM
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EXCLUSIVE: San Jose businesses targeted by anti-maskers amid Delta variant surge

SAN JOSE, Calif. (KGO) -- Some businesses in San Jose are dealing with a group of anti-maskers, who have been harassing customers and staff.

Fern Alberts is the book buyer at Recycle Books, where they've required customers and staff to wear masks during the pandemic.

While the store has dealt with it's share of people who do not want to wear masks, what happened on Friday takes the cake.

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Video taken by another employee shows the two men, without masks and phone cameras rolling, enter the store and begin making accusations to the staff - Asking why they need to wear a mask, who the owner of the store is, and even insulting a customer calling her a "Karen." When the customer says she's Mexican, one man then says, "adios" is a dismissive tone.
https://abc7news.com/society/exclusi...urge/10925826/
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 7:58 AM
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To those saying wearing a mask is trivial - sure, but it can’t become a permanent fixture of life.

Human beings are not supposed to cover half of their face. We get all sorts of social cues and build personal connections through the facial expressions that masks make impossible. Cultures that cover faces (e.g., in more conservative Islamic countries) are fucked and not ones we should seek to emulate. Even in East Asia, people do NOT wear masks as a universal prophylaxis, but rather when they themselves are feeling ill. And Japanese culture is also distant and impersonal relative to Western culture.

People wearing masks significantly impairs normal human interactions and bonding. Not to mention it’s difficult to understand what someone is saying through a mask.

There are significant drawbacks to them, and like all of this is comes down to cost-benefit. Sure it’s better for things to be open with a mask mandate than closed, but we’re also not in pre-vaccine Covid now. The unvaccinated don’t deserve my wearing a mask to protect them, and people who are vaccinated don’t get sick enough to justify it either.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 9:41 AM
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Those who pointedly and knowingly refuse to pitch in and help humanity reduce the pandemic's death toll just don't matter anymore.

They don't care if the hospitals fill up until the rest of us cannot get the care we need if we are in an accident, or face some other medical issue unrelated to the pandemic that they help spread. They are inhumane, and they are inhuman--it's time the rest of us stop caring about them and what they want.

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To those saying wearing a mask is trivial - sure, but it can’t become a permanent fixture of life.

Human beings are not supposed to cover half of their face. We get all sorts of social cues and build personal connections through the facial expressions that masks make impossible. Cultures that cover faces (e.g., in more conservative Islamic countries) are fucked and not ones we should seek to emulate. Even in East Asia, people do NOT wear masks as a universal prophylaxis, but rather when they themselves are feeling ill. And Japanese culture is also distant and impersonal relative to Western culture.

People wearing masks significantly impairs normal human interactions and bonding. Not to mention it’s difficult to understand what someone is saying through a mask.

There are significant drawbacks to them, and like all of this is comes down to cost-benefit. Sure it’s better for things to be open with a mask mandate than closed, but we’re also not in pre-vaccine Covid now. The unvaccinated don’t deserve my wearing a mask to protect them, and people who are vaccinated don’t get sick enough to justify it either.
Their latest failed attempts to "discern social cues" and "make personal connections" don't matter. Their eternal inability to understand what people are saying doesn't matter. Their failures at bonding and experiencing "normal human interactions," which precedes and will outlast COVID, don't matter. Their rants against 'distant and impersonal' foreign cultures don't matter, given how they can't be bothered in the slightest to save lives in their own culture. Fuck 'em.

Anti-mask and anti-vax lives don't matter.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 11:26 AM
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I’m vaccinated. That’s enough.

But frankly, if you insist, I believe there are too many people anyway, especially elderly people (we have a structural demographic problem), and the obese have dug their own graves (especially anyone who is still obese 16 months into a pandemic that disproportionately affects fat people… I have no sympathy for them). They can stay at home if they’d like. But the world has been in need of a plague, and now we have one but won’t let it work. I’m not doing another year of this bullshit for the sake of fatasses and boomers. Happy?
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 12:26 PM
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Had a first for me last night.

My wife and I walked over to one of our neighborhood Thai BYOs for dinner.

They weren't letting anyone dine inside unless you showed them a vaccine card.

We're both fully vaxxed, but never thought to bring our cards with us.

So we walked a couple blocks down the street and ate at one of their competitors.
I know of a number of places that are doing this here in Chicago, Steely. And I personally have no problem with it whatsoever.

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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 12:33 PM
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I’m vaccinated. That’s enough.

But frankly, if you insist, I believe there are too many people anyway, especially elderly people (we have a structural demographic problem), and the obese have dug their own graves (especially anyone who is still obese 16 months into a pandemic that disproportionately affects fat people… I have no sympathy for them). They can stay at home if they’d like. But the world has been in need of a plague, and now we have one but won’t let it work. I’m not doing another year of this bullshit for the sake of fatasses and boomers. Happy?
Jesus Christ, dude. Just go away already. Go live on your own little island full of perfect-bodied people with no issues all of ages less than 50 and be done with it. And please, please never become old enough to become a burden on society. That way you'd never force some young, virile perfect human specimen the burden of having to pay for your elder care.

There are so many fucking trolls here on SSP in these COVID threads it's almost hard to believe. I'm not even sure if these idiots believe the crap they spew or they're simply trying to get everyone else pissed off at them. Regardless of the reason, it's still pathetic.



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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 12:53 PM
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^ Oh I’m done before I become a burden, trust me.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 1:00 PM
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I know of a number of places that are doing this here in Chicago, Steely. And I personally have no problem with it whatsoever.

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Yeah until your vaccine card gets destroyed and you need it replaced.

How does one do that? How would I do it from here in London?

Why is any of this shit necessary when anyone is perfectly capable of protecting themselves by getting vaccinated? Why is a private business taking it upon itself to “encourage” vaccination by requiring people to show a card? Or are they stupid enough to think that in their little restaurant a new vaccine-resistant strain will suddenly emerge?

This is all a fucking joke.
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Yeah until your vaccine card gets destroyed and you need it replaced.

How does one do that? How would I do it from here in London?

Why is any of this shit necessary when anyone is perfectly capable of protecting themselves by getting vaccinated? Why is a private business taking it upon itself to “encourage” vaccination by requiring people to show a card? Or are they stupid enough to think that in their little restaurant a new vaccine-resistant strain will suddenly emerge?

This is all a fucking joke.
Creating inconveniences for the unvaccinated is probably the best way to encourage them to suck it up and get the shot. If businesses are willing to take any potential hit to their bottom line by potentially losing out on customers then good for them. Even if they don't know what's best for them, it is undoubtedly better for all of us if any of them are convinced in large numbers to stop being morons.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 1:18 PM
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Yeah until your vaccine card gets destroyed and you need it replaced.

How does one do that? How would I do it from here in London?

Why is any of this shit necessary when anyone is perfectly capable of protecting themselves by getting vaccinated? Why is a private business taking it upon itself to “encourage” vaccination by requiring people to show a card? Or are they stupid enough to think that in their little restaurant a new vaccine-resistant strain will suddenly emerge?

This is all a fucking joke.
I'm pretty sure these businesses are doing it more to protect their staff, employees, some of which are treated like fam and in many cases, are actually fam.

And you need to chill bruh.
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Creating inconveniences for the unvaccinated is probably the best way to encourage them to suck it up and get the shot. If businesses are willing to take any potential hit to their bottom line by potentially losing out on customers then good for them. Even if they don't know what's best for them, it is undoubtedly better for all of us if any of them are convinced in large numbers to stop being morons.
This isn’t their job. And they are creating “inconveniences” for the vaccinated as well, as Steely’s anecdote demonstrates. Just wait until your card gets torn or lost and it takes weeks of phone calls to have it replaced.

It’s moral posturing.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2021, 1:33 PM
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It's not their job, but it is their right to decide who they want to serve. If the majority of people share your worldview, then their business will suffer accordingly. Let's see how the free market views vaccination requirements.
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This isn’t their job. And they are creating “inconveniences” for the vaccinated as well, as Steely’s anecdote demonstrates. Just wait until your card gets torn or lost and it takes weeks of phone calls to have it replaced.

It’s moral posturing.
Bars, restaurants, bookstores requiring proof of vaccination is much like a face covering. It's virtue signaling and does nothing to stop the spread of a virus.


You know how many underage kids go to bars and clubs with sophisticated fake IDs, this is a piece of paper with black ink on it, with someone's awful handwriting scribbled on the vaccines lines. Mine has stickers on it, lol.
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This isn’t their job. And they are creating “inconveniences” for the vaccinated as well, as Steely’s anecdote demonstrates. Just wait until your card gets torn or lost and it takes weeks of phone calls to have it replaced.

It’s moral posturing.
^ Maybe you don't like it, but I think that the lunkheads refusing vaccination are doing far more 'posturing' than the grownups who went and got stuck.

Preposterous, simply preposterous, that there is even a movement whatsoever against vaccination to begin with. This all began when a bunch of scoundrels decided to seed doubt in peoples' minds about getting the Measles vaccine for their children. Now this mental illness has infested our society, creating doubt FOR NO REASON.

I for one think it's great that private businesses are requiring vaccines for entry. If you want to save yourself, make photocopies and take cell phone pics of your vaccine card, just to be sure.
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