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Old Posted Feb 19, 2009, 5:40 PM
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hi guys ,

just reading these comments plus articles from various newspapers etc.

jeff outhit stories of public transit makes me puke , and if he reports on weather by some chance ,we would have here earthquakes and similar natural disasters,even though its sunny outside.

this problem with GO ,public transit is not created yesterday.Its a snowball effect.This province totally neglected and ignored means of public transit for the last 20 years ,pushing for more and more cars. Bubble finally popped.

Political marketing machine for GO is well run by provinical and federal gov.
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notmyfriends... you need to source (with a link) your article.
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2009, 5:48 PM
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I thought it was clear that it was satire... I guess that guy is so far gone that even with a story that absurd no one can really be sure
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/\ Oh yeah, I was convinced. It sounded legit to me with Outhit's name on it.

Touche fine sir, you have bested me this time.
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I was at the Public Information Centre 3 tonight in Baden about the new proposed layover site. All I can say is: Holy NIMBY!

Residents of Baden and Wilmot Township in general sent a message loud and clear that they do not want GO to locate its new layover site anywhere near residential areas. Wilmot Township mayor Wayne Roth basically got swarmed with angry citizens, who kept saying that he wasn't protecting the their concerns and interests at all, and they were skeptical when he claimed that he couldn't do anything more special than they could at the provincial level. Absolutely no one there supported the idea of the new layover site, and all of the approximately 175 people in attendance were flaming mad about getting the rotten end of the GO deal for Waterloo Region.

Here is a good article from the New Hamburg Independent on the whole proposal:



GO Transit layover station on the move again



By Doug Coxson, New Hamburg Independent, March 18, 2009

Baden

GO Transit will wrap up its yearlong study to expand service between Georgetown and Kitchener next month, but not before going back to the public with a new location for a train layover station.

The commuter rail service is now proposing a layover facility just north of the Wilmot Recreation Complex on Nafziger Road.

A public information centre has been scheduled at the WRC on Tuesday, March 24 from 6 p. m. to 9 p. m. for residents to drop in, see plans and voice an opinion.

Previous layover station sites were proposed in Petersburg and on Sandhills Road in Baden, but both those ideas are now off the table, said GO Transit’s manager of infrastructure expansion planning Greg Ashbee.

Ashbee said GO Transit became convinced the new site fits in better with their plans because of it lies within the township’s designated industrial area, the site is easily accessed from Nafziger Road and there are no immediate neighbours of the facility. (Duke - not really, there is a new residential subdivision in Baden almost right across the street!)

Alpine Plant Foods Corp is directly across Nafziger. A home and barn is about 300 metres to the north of the tracks.

“It fits in with with overall plans of the township and the region,” he said.

Layover stations provide a compound and shelter where trains are parked and fueled overnight, and on weekends. The compounds typically feature an above-ground fuel tank and pumps, electrical hook ups for the trains, as well as floodlights, several cameras and alarms to deter vandalism.

Trains are set to idle about an hour before the train goes into service in order to bring it up to operational speed. (Duke- these issues highlighted in red is what the Baden/New Hamburg residents are unhappy about)

In light of the possibility of adding a future boarding station on the west side of Kitchener, Ashbee said GO Transit would likely want to reserve the right to expand the layover facility to build service bays and a below-ground walkway, allowing workers to move underneath the trains to perform regular maintenance and repairs.

Ashbee said potential issues for neighbours of the facility are the noise impact from idling trains in the morning and light pollution from the yard at night.

Despite hearing concerns throughout the EA process, positive response to the expansion plan has come from various members of the community.

Wilmot Township’s director of development services Harold O’Krafka was one of the first to endorse GO Transit’s initiative last June, urging the transit service provider to consider building a station in Wilmot to serve the growing community while catering to residents living on the west side of the cities.

“A Go Transit station in the vicinity of Nafziger Road would provide significant opportunity to reduce vehicle traffic on both Highway 7 and 8 and also the 401 corridor by improving access to public transit without having to drive to downtown Kitchener or Stratford to access those stations,” O’Krafka wrote in his report to council.

Although he’s still concerned that GO’s plans not to build a station on the west side of Kitchener will prevent local commuters from using the service, he’s hopeful the new location of the layover facility will increase the potential for a west-side station in the future.

It could also mean a future passenger boarding station in Wilmot.

“It has the potential to be a really important thing for the community,” he said.

For the most part, Ashbee agrees.

“If Kitchener develops the way I think it will, a few years from now we’ll probably be adding another station on the west side of Kitchener,” Ashbee said. “But the way I like to think of it is — it’s a big leap for us to get to Kitchener, let’s get there first.”

The possibility of one day converting the layover station into a passenger boarding station is not in the forecast, but Ashbee doesn’t want to rule the idea out.

GO Transit does have what layover yards next to stations but it requires much more space and track infrastructure. He said it’s also preferable to provide layover facilities beyond the last passenger station because of potential impacts to train schedules in relation to the time it takes to switch controls as train directions change.

The Baden layover station does provide potential for other stations to come online between Wilmot Township and downtown Kitchener, Ashbee said.

The current service model for GO Transit has the majority of riders from outlying cities traveling to Toronto and back with very few getting off at stops in between.

But previous public information centres throughout the EA study made it clear to GO Transit officials that local riders will be making more trips between Kitchener and Guelph than anticipated.

“For GO that’s a new market,” said Ashbee. “A local commuter market is something we haven’t really satisfied before.

I think it’s going to be a real success story but time will tell.”

Ashbee said the proposed expansion is still dependent on Ministry of Transportation approval and provincial funding.

The optimistic timeline for that to fall into place is 2011.


http://www.newhamburgindependent.ca/news/article/167298

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Old Posted Mar 25, 2009, 3:20 AM
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I still don't know what the problem was with the layover facility placed at Ira Needles just north of of the substation. If GO ever decided it wanted to expand further west, they would have to build a layover facility on the other side of New Hamburg regardless. Plus, who is going to develop a 150m wide strip of land beside a substation on the outskirts of town?
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I still don't know what the problem was with the layover facility placed at Ira Needles just north of of the substation. If GO ever decided it wanted to expand further west, they would have to build a layover facility on the other side of New Hamburg regardless. Plus, who is going to develop a 150m wide strip of land beside a substation on the outskirts of town?
GO representatives said at the meeting tonight that they tried all they could to get that site, but Hydro One has it exclusively reserved for future expansion of the Detweiler switching station and absolutely won't give it up.
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GO representatives said at the meeting tonight that they tried all they could to get that site, but Hydro One has it exclusively reserved for future expansion of the Detweiler switching station and absolutely won't give it up.
That's too bad. It would make more sense for it to go there than having a station out by Baden.
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GO representatives said at the meeting tonight that they tried all they could to get that site, but Hydro One has it exclusively reserved for future expansion of the Detweiler switching station and absolutely won't give it up.
This sounds familiar, like the time when hydro one wouldn't let the region built a a rapid transit corridor along the hydro ROW from the Elmira spur to Conestoga Mall.

What's wrong with the land directly west of Glasgow?
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This sounds familiar, like the time when hydro one wouldn't let the region built a a rapid transit corridor along the hydro ROW from the Elmira spur to Conestoga Mall.

What's wrong with the land directly west of Glasgow?
Probably a couple things, on the south side of the tracks, it's likely topography, there's a steep dip down to the tracks. Although you could move the dirt, it's even closer to the built-up area along Glasgow.

Now, on the north side of the tracks, all that land is scheduled for future landfill site expansion.
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Now, on the north side of the tracks, all that land is scheduled for future landfill site expansion.
(I know this is a little off topic, but...)

YES! Finally Kitchener will be getting a good part of the regional dump on their side!

As the Regional seat, this should have been done long ago when the Region took over waste management responsibilities. Kitchener needs to take their share of having something like this in their city too.
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(I know this is a little off topic, but...)

YES! Finally Kitchener will be getting a good part of the regional dump on their side!

As the Regional seat, this should have been done long ago when the Region took over waste management responsibilities. Kitchener needs to take their share of having something like this in their city too.
Now when is Waterloo going to get some social services, more homeless shelters, halfway houses, etc in uptown?? Waterloo needs to take their share of having something like this in their city too.
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Yup, I spoke with a planner at the city of Waterloo who said that is part of an ongoing process in the region, and a real concern.
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Now when is Waterloo going to get some social services, more homeless shelters, halfway houses, etc in uptown?? Waterloo needs to take their share of having something like this in their city too.
Maybe I should start buying up blocks of houses in the Doon Mills and Pioneer Park neighbourhoods of Kitchener, with the intent of building some bland multi-colour stucco block apartments for when Conestoga College expands in a couple years... In the meantime, these traditional single-family houses would be great to rent to current College students to drag some couches out on the front lawn for killer kegger parties.
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Maybe I should start buying up blocks of houses in the Doon Mills and Pioneer Park neighbourhoods of Kitchener, with the intent of building some bland multi-colour stucco block apartments for when Conestoga College expands in a couple years... In the meantime, these traditional single-family houses would be great to rent to current College students to drag some couches out on the front lawn for a couple kegger parties.
actually a lot of people were concerned that the pharmacy campus would lead to an increase of student housing around downtown kitchener... I went to one of the open houses on housing in the area. People can be very disparaging about students, as if all students are drunk party animals.
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I live 4 blocks north of Victoria and King. My mom is counting on the demand for housing to sublet as soon as I move out. Should be fun.
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Yeah... let's move back to GO Train, hmmm?
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city of waterloo comments... p. 232

http://www.city.waterloo.on.ca/Porta..._the_Whole.pdf
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Canada-Ontario Transit Announcement - Media Advisory

TORONTO, April 2 /CNW Telbec/ - John Baird, Canada's Minister of
Transport and Infrastructure, along with the Honourable Jim Bradley, Ontario
Minister of Transportation and GO Transit Chair, Peter Smith will make an
important infrastructure announcement.
A brief media availability will follow the announcement.

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Date: Friday, April 3, 2009

Time: 12:00 p.m.

Location: GO Transit Willowbrook Maintenance Facility and Yard
125 Judson Street
Etobicoke, Ontario

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/a.../02/c7082.html
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More good news for GO customers with Federal and Provincial funding announcement
TORONTO, April 3, 2009 /CNW/ - Improved stations, better infrastructure,
and new facilities topped the list of improvements for GO Transit in today's
announcement by Canada's Minister of Transport and Infrastructure John Baird,
Ontario Minister of Transportation Jim Bradley, and GO Transit Chairman Peter
Smith. The announcement earmarked $250 million for a series of GO improvement
projects, including station enhancements, new maintenance and storage
facilities, new stations and stops, and improvements to GO infrastructure.
This funding is part of the $500 million pledged for GO Transit by both levels
of government in February this year.
GO Transit's entire network will benefit from today's announcement, with
improvements coming to all regions of GO's service area.

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New stations and stops:
- New second rail station in downtown Barrie at Allandale site (Simcoe)

New facilities:
- New GO Bus storage facility in Aberfoyle (Wellington)
- New GO Bus maintenance facility in Ajax (Durham)
- New train fuelling facility at Aldershot GO Station (Halton)
- Expansion of Streetsville GO Bus facility (Peel)

Station improvements:
- South platform reconstruction at Clarkson GO Station (Peel)
- Pedestrian tunnel extension and track work at Exhibition GO Station
(Toronto)
- New pedestrian bridges at Burlington GO Station (Halton)
- Pedestrian bridge rehabilitation at Oriole GO Station (Toronto)
- New platform and two shelters for Hwy. 407 East GO Bus service at
Richmond Hill Centre Bus Terminal (York)
- Yonge Street Bridge rehabilitation on the Barrie rail corridor in
Aurora (York)
- Platform snowmelt systems at Ajax (Durham) and Bronte GO Stations
(Halton)
- More bicycle shelter construction - additional 56 shelters across the
GO system

More infrastructure, parking, and equipment:
- Widening of the Credit River bridge and new second track on
Georgetown rail corridor (Peel & Halton)
- Purchase of 20 more bi-level railcars and refurbishment of older
locomotives to improve their reliability
- Installation of GPS on all GO Buses
- Ongoing track maintenance and improvements throughout the GO rail
network over the next five years
>>

"This is a tremendous day for GO and public transit in general," said GO
Transit Chairman Peter Smith. "The improvements that will come from this
funding will ultimately make the system better, more convenient, and more
comfortable for our riders."
For GO information, the public can call 416.869.3200, 1.888.GET ON GO
(438.6646), or 1.800.387.3652 TTY.

GO Transit is the Province of Ontario's interregional public transit
system linking Toronto with the surrounding regions of the Greater Toronto
Area (GTA). GO carries nearly 55 million passengers a year in an extensive
network of train and bus services that spans over 8,000 square kilometres.
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