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Very cool! I am actually very surprised there has not been more development on both sides of the river with the costs and limited availability on Manhattan.
Zoning didn't allow towers until this part of Queens was rezoned in recent years.
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Old Posted Dec 17, 2016, 5:03 PM
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This block will see at least one additional huge new tower. The MTA owns 600,000 square feet of air rights, and is actively marketing the additional development rights.

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...-ripe-for-more

Area near LIC's recently sold Clock Tower site may be ripe for more development

The Durst Organization's newly purchased 1,000-unit development site was enhanced with air rights from the MTA. And the transit authority says there's more where that came from.
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Zoning didn't allow towers until this part of Queens was rezoned in recent years.
Ahhhhh, thanks. That makes more sense.
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2016, 2:15 AM
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Meanwhile, in Long Island City...


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That's the perfect angle to capture the insane amount of construction in LIC right now.
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2016, 2:21 PM
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yeah i see 5 towers in one shot u/c -- that is quite impressive.
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I will admit that I am in awe over LIC having a vibrant skyline across the East river!
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Hill West Shows Off New Renderings of LIC's Future Tallest Skysraper, Court Square City View Tower
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After yesterday's announcement of the retirement of founding member Alan Goldstein, the architectural office of Goldstein Hill & West has debuted a new website. The site, emblazoning a new name, Hill West, gives us a glimpse of the firm’s new direction and, with it, the myriad of residential projects they have in the works. Probably their most ambitious project will be the Court Square City View Tower, which also happens to be their tallest project to date.






More photos and info in the post here.

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Old Posted Jan 4, 2017, 5:34 PM
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As a design it's okay but not memorable or bold, and when you go that high why go bland?
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As a design it's okay but not memorable or bold, and when you go that high why go bland?
The same reason why 30 PP isn't clad in gold and opal. Fancy designs and cladding costs money - I'm willing to bet that the buyout on this will total far less than on more pricey affairs: 30 PP, 56 Leonary, 220 CPS, etc.
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So you only get good designs for housing for the super rich? I'm not saying use the most expensive materials, but it's ridiculous to go that high and noticeable and be that bland. even 30 Park Place is stylish, if not ornate. Look at the DeKalb Tower in Brooklyn.... that's not going for the super fraction of the top of the 1% but it's incredible. This is pedestrian, but oversized. I love height but we should expect better, not make excuses for relative mediocrity.
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The image of the construction site in PeterQM's post doesn't look like the location of this tower. It looks like a site in Manhattan. I don't see that level of density around this site.
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Yea, the site pictured is 125 Greenwich.

I really don't mind the design, and I'm happy to see we're getting some sort of crown with a lighting scheme. 1 Dekalb is in a more established neighborhood though, with amenities, LIC is still a massive construction site. I would imagine we start to see more interesting designs out here once LIC settles as a neighborhood a bit more.
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23-15 44th Drive
Project / Building Name: Court Square City View Tower
Neighborhood: Long Island City
Client: CityView Tower LLC
Project Type: Condo
Scope: Architect
Area: 985064
Stories: 66
Units: 802
Status: In Progress


The tallest building in Long Island City, Court Square City View Tower will rise 66 stories. The 800 condominium units will have unparalleled 360 degree views of Manhattan and the surrounding skyline. This all glass curtainwall building is a sleek, monolithic structure with re-entrant corners articulating the form and creating a place for balconies. The designers used two shades of glass, a neutral blue on the broader faces of the building and a clear green on the edges. The result is a building that appears to expose its special interiors beyond its glassy exterior.

The base and crown are screened with metal fins that add lightness and conceal parking at the base. This language of metal fins allows the private residential entry and the public MTA entry at the building base to both relate to each other and be separate.

The building features a double-height sky-lit amenity space with a mezzanine lounge overlooking a pool on the 3rd floor. On the 5th floor amenities overlook an exterior terrace. A fitness center, sauna, spa, yoga room, parking, and storage round out the luxury experience.

They should have gone for a spire, make a grab for 9 Dekalb's crown.
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Hey guys, that was the wrong construction photo... Sorry about that (no one's perfect...). I fixed the post with the right pics above.

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It's not ground-breaking architecture but it has a certain elegance (reminds me of the No. 2 Opus Place proposal in Atlanta) and will add a much needed focal point for LIC's booming skyline. Plus the ground level retail seems to be handled quite well.
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eww, so its to be tall on the cheap? it just reeks of cost cutting design work.

its not bad on a functional level though. it works and fits in well for the area.

oh well, we will have to wait for nicer big bldg designs around lic.
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eww, so its to be tall on the cheap? it just reeks of cost cutting design work.
Value engineering is a *****. Blame the developers.
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http://m.qchron.com/mobile/editions/...578d2861b.html

A tall order for LI City’s renaissance
PLANS UNVEILED FOR HIGHEST BUILDING IN NY STATE OUTSIDE OF MANHATTAN


by Michael Gannon, Editor


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Stephen Hill, a founding partner of the architectural firm Hill West, says Long Island City is, for a few reasons, a good place to build what at least for now will be the tallest building in New York State outside of Manhattan.

“That’s the idea,” Hill told the Chronicle Tuesday morning about Court Square City View, a 66-story residential tower planned by City View Tower LLC at 23-15 44 Drive.

The glass-and-steel structure, slated to have 802 residential units, will, upon completion, be 16 stories taller that the nearby Citi Tower at 1 Court Square, which currently holds the out-of-Manhattan title. Unless the latest redesign changed the height, it will rise 984 feet, far above Citi’s 658.

The design has been reworked from an initial proposal for a 79-story skyscraper.

Hill said LIC’s ongoing renaissance, in terms of growing population, its burgeoning cultural reputation and its location on the waterfront with a view of Manhattan all played their part in creating the design.

“There are firms where you can tell who designed the building,” he said. “All our buildings are designed with all things in mind — we’re designing the building for its own sake, but we’re also taking into account the client, the local site, the neighborhood and things near it. It’s a conceptual approach. We’re not trying to make ourselves famous. We’re designing a building for that specific location.”

Playing a role in the area’s transformation has a sentimental pull for Hill.

“The area used to be all industrial,” he said. “My grandfather had a printing shop in Long Island City — Peter Mallon Printing. If he could have seen what is happening here, it would be beyond his wildest fantasies.”

That location has several other advantages.

“It’s not in Manhattan; it has a view of Manhattan,” he said. It will be adjacent to the Court Square subway station that serves the No. 7 line along with the E, G and M trains, but not atop the labyrinthine station complex, which could have complicated the digging process for the foundation. Not that that would have been a problem once the architects and engineers get started, according to Hill.

“We just completed a project in Brooklyn that sits directly over several subway lines,” he said. “But where there’s a will, there’s a way.”
On the street level, Hill said, the grid has none of the narrow or oddly laid out roads that mark some older parts of the area.

Start digging and the geology of Manhattan bedrock and geographic Long Island almost meet.

“The confluence is right there, but Long Island City has Manhattan schist, right where we need it,” he said, referring to the dense metamorphic rock. “Where we’re planning the core, we have to do a lot of blasting.” But what represents a challenge for the core couldn’t be better for the rest of the foundation.

“You’re sliding it straight into rock,” Hill said.
The rock foundation also saved the client considerable expense, allowing the designer to forgo so-called dampers which are used in high-rises to keep from swaying in high winds to a minimum.

“All tall buildings move with the wind,” Hill said, adding that in residential buildings and some office settings there is a need to make that less noticeable. Dampers, either water tanks or mobile metal plates, can do the trick, but were not needed at the LIC project.

“That can save the client $1.5 to $2 million,” he said.
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