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View Poll Results: Which transbay tower design scheme do you like best?
#1 Richard Rogers 39 7.88%
#2 Cesar Pelli 98 19.80%
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2011, 8:49 AM
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So I guess HSR is the new evil liberal/communist/socialist thing to hate?

I'd just really love to get to LA in under 3 hours--something that doesn't happen via SFO.
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My honest (and hopeful) gut feeling is that this is going to happen. Too much time and money has been invested already for us to say forget it. In my opinion, NOT getting this off the ground would be California's biggest failure in as far back as I can remember. The amount of money we spend in petroleum in about 3 or so months would probably be enough to fund this whole project. I don't care where it runs from and to, just get it started already. From what I've seen, Californians have a desire to see this come alive, but it's just a few misinformed people who screw it up for the rest of us.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2011, 2:12 PM
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Very Strong Support

Polling shows Californians very much want the project:

http://www.cahsrblog.com/
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Polling shows Californians very much want the project:

http://www.cahsrblog.com/
What does this have to do with the Transbay Tower???
Everybody is talking about California HSR. There is a thread for that.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2011, 6:29 PM
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It's kinda confusing because in the title it says "Transbay Transit Center Redevelopment Plan", but then further down the page in another title it says "Transbay Terminal Tower".

Last edited by brantw; Feb 25, 2011 at 9:28 PM. Reason: typo
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2011, 7:05 PM
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And there has been no news about the tower itself in a long while, so people are wandering off topic.

I would LOVE to hear some good news about the tower itself.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2011, 7:57 PM
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this thread is for tower and terminal news, so ca hsr sort of relates - though this thread has wandered off topic. there is no thread to discuss the terminal itself so everything has been posted here.
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i hope that this project will start.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2011, 11:00 PM
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It actually is pretty hard to stay on topic when you haven't heard news for a while heh. Last I heard, demolition on the old terminal was still going on, but this was about a month or so ago. I imagine the terminal is all gone now and they're planning out the demolition of any ramps or so that led to the old structure and removal of underground utilities. Once we start seeing early signs of excavation, then I'll get excited again
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Also, through April the ramps between Howard and Harrison are set to be demolished which I believe will be the end of the demolition. Also commencing: West end and central sections of below grade shoring and foundation construction begin, including excavation of the Transit Center site.

http://transbaycenter.org/constructi...tes/demolition
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Construction of San Francisco’s Transbay Transit Center To Begin This Spring
http://archrecord.construction.com/n...ay_transit.asp

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When the wrecking ball came down on San Francisco’s 71-year-old Transbay Terminal bus station in December, it marked the end of an era—and the beginning of a new one. The drab concrete structure will be replaced with the long-planned Transbay Transit Center, perhaps the most ambitious transportation hub to be built in the United States in the past few decades.

The $4.2 billion project, designed by Pelli Clarke Pelli Architects, includes a multimodal transportation hub, a 5.4-acre rooftop park, and a 1,000-foot-tall tower that will displace the Transamerica Pyramid as the city’s tallest building.

Touted as the Grand Central Terminal of the West, the transit center, scheduled for completion in 2017, will be the focal point of a new mixed-use downtown neighborhood south of Market Street. Construction is scheduled to begin in May.

Funding will come from a variety of sources, including sales-tax revenues, bridge tolls, and federal loans and grants. In January, U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood announced the project would get $400 million in federal stimulus funds, part of a $2.25 billion grant for a high-speed-rail link between Anaheim and San Francisco.

In 2007, Pelli Clarke Pelli won a competition to design the new transit center, which is being developed by the Transbay Joint Powers Authority. The glass-and-steel structure will occupy nearly five city blocks and accommodate buses, commuter trains, and California’s planned high-speed rail line, making it the nation’s first high-speed-rail station.

Planners say the terminal eventually will serve more 45 million passengers a year. Passengers will walk through a light-filled, multilevel facility with undulating glass panels supported by a network of steel columns. The key design element, however, is the rooftop park. “That was probably the boldest part of our proposal,” says Fred Clarke, senior principal of Pelli Clarke Pelli. “And I think it’s one of the reasons we were chosen for the project.”

Designed by Peter Walker and Partners Landscape Architecture, Berkeley, California, the park will be open to the pubic and occupy the transit center’s entire roof. It will include walking paths, playgrounds, cafes, an amphitheater, gardens, and a 1,000-foot-long fountain with water jets triggered by the movement of the buses below. Visitors will enter the park via stairs, escalators, elevators, and perhaps even by funicular.

The park, Clarke says, will help make the transit center a “great neighbor,” not merely a functional transportation hub for daily commuters. “The history of transit centers in the United States is not a happy one,” he says. “They are seldom neighborly buildings—the Port Authority in New York is a perfect example. [Transit centers] tend to be blights on neighborhoods rather than generators.”

But John King, the San Francisco Chronicle’s urban design critic, wonders how many people will actually use the elevated park. “There’s a lot of skepticism about it,” he says. “It may be too large and divorced from the city to really work.”

Though still in the planning-and-review stage, the obelisk-like Transbay Tower will be directly adjacent to the terminal, allowing office workers to have direct access to the rooftop park. King calls the tower’s current design “a little generic-looking,” but Clarke promises an iconic building that will become one of the defining images of San Francisco’s skyline. Unlike the transit center, which has funding fully in place, Clarke says the tower is “at least one real estate cycle away.”

King says few will miss the old Transbay Terminal building, which had fallen into disrepair and decay. Designed by noted San Francisco architect Timothy Pflueger and completed in 1939 as the terminal for commuter trains that once crossed the Bay Bridge, the concrete structure had long outlived its usefulness, even as a bus station. “It wasn’t Grand Central Terminal,” King says. “There was no real push to preserve it.”
















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Designed by Peter Walker and Partners Landscape Architecture, Berkeley, California, the park will be open to the pubic
a rather unfortunate typo
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2011, 2:26 AM
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Three points

1. For once I agree with King on something- the tower is very generic looking.

2. It is going to be so sweet to see this thing rise starting in a couple of months!

3. If there is any evidence of the snail's pace of anything getting done in SF it is that it has been almost 4 years since the Transbay design competition took place and the supervisors have yet to approve new height limits for the Transbay area.
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This is butt ugly.

It so incredibly irritating that they haggle over every little nook and cranny, disputing the minutia of every detail of this project, but the NIMBYs, when we actually need them the most, appear to be silent on the issue of adding one of the most hideous and out-of-place 'sculptures' that will be a scorn on the most ambitious building project San Francisco has seen in decades?

People! This is a world class city. WTF?

Furthermore, in the whole of Northern California's 15 Million people, we can't find a local artist to come up withe something? pfft.


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Transbay Site to Get Big, Awkward Sculpture Made Out of Transbay Terminal Scraps

Before we see anything else on the site of the former Transbay Terminal and the future Transbay transit hub/spectacularly tall tower, we may be seeing a piece of public art made from leftover pieces of concrete and other debris from the demolished terminal. As Chron architecture critic John King reports, the Transbay folks are voting today on the approval of the proposed sculpture by acclaimed L.A.-based artist Tim Hawkinson. It would be installed in 2015, two years ahead of the terminal's completion, and nobody's really sure when the tower will be done, so...

The details:

It's a 41-foot-high sculpture assembled from its predecessor's remains. The artwork planned for the corner of Mission and Fremont streets would look something like a low-tech Transformer, beginning with toes that once were bollards and culminating in an upraised pointing finger that once did duty as a light pole.


http://sfist.com/attachments/SFist_J...-hawkinson.jpg

OK, maybe it won't be awkward when all is said and done. Maybe it will even be cute. Thoughts?

http://sfist.com/2011/03/10/transbay...awkward_sc.php

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That statue is ugly -_-. Why can't they find someone to do something better in my aunts city. Seems like a lame excuse that my aunt, and I will sooner or later would have to see that.
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I thought it was a cool idea and will reserve judgment until I see it in person.

I agree that it should have been someone local.
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I like it. It's weird, and we don't have enough weird things around here.
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