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Steely Dan · #**31001** Posted **Oct 21, 2015, 5:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ Yeah, I love it. Classic density, I feel like it's the 1930's again seeing stuff like that go up.

uhhh, not a whole lot of anything was built in the city in the '30s, other than WPA projects.

apparently, there was some kind of total economic collapse thing going on.....

EDIT:

should have read the follow up page first, sam beat me to it.

marothisu · #**31002** Posted **Oct 21, 2015, 5:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

FYI, this big TOD is under construction:

http://chicago.curbed.com/archives/2...posal.php#more

Demo is complete and Revcon rigs are on site.

Great news

PKDickman · #**31003** Posted **Oct 21, 2015, 7:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan

uhhh, not a whole lot of anything was built in the city in the '30s, other than WPA projects.

apparently, there was some kind of total economic collapse thing going on.....

There also wasn't much demand.
We started bleeding population by the end of the 20's.

Whether due to the depression or other factors.
The 1930 census was the last time we exceeded the rate of natural increase.
ever since then, out-migration has exceed in-migration.

Ned.B · #**31004** Posted **Oct 21, 2015, 7:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by PKDickman

There also wasn't much demand.
We started bleeding population by the end of the 20's.

Whether due to the depression or other factors.
The 1930 census was the last time we exceeded the rate of natural increase.
ever since then, out-migration has exceed in-migration.

We got close to meeting it during the population increase between 1990 to 2000, a 4 percent increase of population compared to a rate of natural increase of 5.7.

LouisVanDerWright · #**31005** Posted **Oct 21, 2015, 8:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by marothisu

Great news

Must correct myself, its actually this proposal, also a nice courtyard design:

78 units

http://www.spearheadprop.com/armitage/

Ryanrule · #**31006** Posted **Oct 21, 2015, 8:32 PM**

hmm wonder what they will go for.

the urban politician · #**31007** Posted **Oct 21, 2015, 8:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

Must correct myself, its actually this proposal, also a nice courtyard design:

^ Damn, how did you mix those two up?

I'm kind of bummed, actually. I like the 1st proposal as well. I hope that gets built

SamInTheLoop · #**31008** Posted **Oct 21, 2015, 8:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ryanrule

hmm wonder what they will go for.

Don't know, but they will go for more, be smaller, and have finishes below than what you would prefer......

PKDickman · #**31009** Posted **Oct 21, 2015, 9:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ryanrule

hmm wonder what they will go for.

Can't speak for this one, but the numbers all the developers spout around here, work out roughly to $2.75 /ft for studios, $2.50/ft for 1brs and $2.10-2.25 for 2brs.

But they get a twinkle in their eyes when they think about $3.00 studios

ithakas · #**31010** Posted **Oct 22, 2015, 12:15 AM**

Here's a couple photos I took of the Brininstool + Lynch California/Milwaukee area TOD project (taken on my iPhone).

It looks as though they've got two floors to go – you can see where it will top out with the framing on the side in the first photo. It's already having a tremendous impact on that barren stretch of Milwaukee.

streetline · #**31011** Posted **Oct 22, 2015, 5:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by harryc

Cool - that one is so aggressively bland it defletcs my camera
- neighbor has potential

Make the had potential. Everything but the 3-story building on the southwest portion of that block is now rubble.

Busy Bee · #**31012** Posted **Oct 22, 2015, 12:04 PM**

Regarding the Logan Square TOD, it's a bit sad/funny that our idea of dense TOD is ljust like any 6-7 story apartment building next to an el station anywhere in New York.

Ned.B · #**31013** Posted **Oct 22, 2015, 1:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by streetline

Make the had potential. Everything but the 3-story building on the southwest portion of that block is now rubble.

Are you sure about that? 310 N. Green Street pictured above was listed as a contributing property in the Fulton Market Landmark District in May. I haven't been able to find anything about a permit pulled on it, nor a Landmarks review regarding it's demolition.

PKDickman · #**31014** Posted **Oct 22, 2015, 1:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ned.B

Are you sure about that? 310 N. Green Street pictured above was listed as a contributing property in the Fulton Market Landmark District in May. I haven't been able to find anything about a permit pulled on it, nor a Landmarks review regarding it's demolition.

I believe it got a facadectomy.

http://www.chicagocityscape.com/perm...?pid=100576963

OrdoSeclorum · #**31015** Posted **Oct 22, 2015, 2:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Regarding the Logan Square TOD, it's a bit sad/funny that our idea of dense TOD is ljust like any 6-7 story apartment building next to an el station anywhere in New York.

Well, there's only a few zip codes in the country where you can build apartments without parking. There's a bunch more new ones now in Chicago. It sucked before and now it's better and I'm sure-as-shit excited.

Beyond that, there are lots of places in New York City where parking is required for new construction. Certainly not "anywhere". Maybe you're thinking of Manhattan?

Jibba · #**31016** Posted **Oct 22, 2015, 3:21 PM**

^Yeah, invoking New York in most discussions of Chicago doesn't make for valid arguments. A large portion of the circumstances contributing to the built environment in New York do not exist here. Which we've all delineated ad nauseam.

the urban politician · #**31017** Posted **Oct 22, 2015, 4:37 PM**

^ Agreed. I get so tired of New York being referenced in seemingly every urban discussion that pertains to Chicago.

Steely Dan · #**31018** Posted **Oct 22, 2015, 4:55 PM**

"Marcia, Marcia, Marcia"

UrbanLibertine · #**31019** Posted **Oct 22, 2015, 5:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jibba

^Yeah, invoking New York in most discussions of Chicago doesn't make for valid arguments. A large portion of the circumstances contributing to the built environment in New York do not exist here. Which we've all delineated ad nauseam.

Agreed. I lived in NYC for a few years and couldn't wait to get the hell out of there. As fun as it is to dream about density (part of why I moved to New York was the built environment), too much of it makes life miserable. New York is way too crowded (the trains are crowded, the grocery stores are crowded, movie tickets are always sold out, you wait 10 times as long at the doctors - the basic things that make or break sanity, I found, were often intolerable in NYC). When it comes to neighborhood density, Chicago neighborhoods like Wicker Park/Bucktown/Ukie Village or Rogers Park or Hyde Park are 1,000 times more desirable to me than anywhere in Manhattan and most of Brownstone Brooklyn (although I do miss brownstones).

streetline · #**31020** Posted **Oct 22, 2015, 6:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by PKDickman

I believe it got a facadectomy.

http://www.chicagocityscape.com/perm...?pid=100576963

Yeah, I don't know if parts of it were taken away and might come back, but there is definitely nothing standing there now.